Bloodhound LSR Thread As Requested...

Bloodhound LSR Thread As Requested...

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Gareth79

7,666 posts

246 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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Mansells Tash said:
IN51GHT said:
Nobody as once we've done 1000mph we pack the car away for good.

Once we break the record next year it will be interesting to see who want's to come on board when we prove credible.
Once it has done the runs you're going to have to hand back the jet engines anyway aren't you? I seem to remember they're on loan.
I imagine that was set so that if the project wasn't completed (ie. the engines never used) they would have to be sent back and wouldn't form the assets.

I was going to say that once they had been used I doubt anybody would want to use them in an aircraft, but it looks like Thrust SSCs engines were removed after the record? I can see that one is in a separate museum (Flixton) but I couldn't immediately find out the history.


Oberon

45 posts

98 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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So apart from the APU engines and their, tech support and the test/chase/PR F-Types what else do JLR have in it at the moment? And will they be wanting any of it back?

IN51GHT

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8,777 posts

210 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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Oberon said:
So apart from the APU engines and their, tech support and the test/chase/PR F-Types what else do JLR have in it at the moment? And will they be wanting any of it back?
No chase cars etc from Jag any more, involvement is basically limited to the APU, but it has been very amicable, without Jaguar we would never have to where we are now.

rohrl

8,737 posts

145 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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Gareth79 said:
I imagine that was set so that if the project wasn't completed (ie. the engines never used) they would have to be sent back and wouldn't form the assets.

I was going to say that once they had been used I doubt anybody would want to use them in an aircraft, but it looks like Thrust SSCs engines were removed after the record? I can see that one is in a separate museum (Flixton) but I couldn't immediately find out the history.
Once those jets have sucked a whole load of sand and dust through them I can't imagine they'll be much use to anyone. If you look at Thrust SSC you can see how much damage was done to all the leading edges of the vehicle by dust and grit and this will be all the way through the engine.

scubadude

2,618 posts

197 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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rohrl said:
Gareth79 said:
I imagine that was set so that if the project wasn't completed (ie. the engines never used) they would have to be sent back and wouldn't form the assets.

I was going to say that once they had been used I doubt anybody would want to use them in an aircraft, but it looks like Thrust SSCs engines were removed after the record? I can see that one is in a separate museum (Flixton) but I couldn't immediately find out the history.
Once those jets have sucked a whole load of sand and dust through them I can't imagine they'll be much use to anyone. If you look at Thrust SSC you can see how much damage was done to all the leading edges of the vehicle by dust and grit and this will be all the way through the engine.
On the topic of turbines I had wondered why Bloodhound isn't using a APU type turbine as the fule pump instead of the heavier Jag engine? Probably a good reason- reliability or tolerance to abuse perhaps?

Oberon

45 posts

98 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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IN51GHT said:
No chase cars etc from Jag any more, involvement is basically limited to the APU, but it has been very amicable, without Jaguar we would never have to where we are now.
Well, a big thumbs up to Jaguar then for not doing a complete Cosworth, but I can't imagine Andy Green is going to take much comfort from the idea of Geely chase vehicles! 'Quo Vadis' now for those?

With my cynicism now in full thrust I found myself wondering whether the Geely sponsorship isn't perhaps R Noble esq's subtle middle finger to British industry. They certainly deserve it, but I hope he hasn't just shot the Noble knighthood in the foot.

IN51GHT

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8,777 posts

210 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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Oberon said:
IN51GHT said:
No chase cars etc from Jag any more, involvement is basically limited to the APU, but it has been very amicable, without Jaguar we would never have to where we are now.
Well, a big thumbs up to Jaguar then for not doing a complete Cosworth, but I can't imagine Andy Green is going to take much comfort from the idea of Geely chase vehicles! 'Quo Vadis' now for those?

With my cynicism now in full thrust I found myself wondering whether the Geely sponsorship isn't perhaps R Noble esq's subtle middle finger to British industry. They certainly deserve it, but I hope he hasn't just shot the Noble knighthood in the foot.
Geely actually approached us after their chairman had paid a visit to Coventry transport museum.

Craikeybaby

10,410 posts

225 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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rohrl said:
Craikeybaby said:
Hopefully at Coventry Transport Museum as part of their land speed record collection.
Agreed. It's a bit shabby there, but it would be nice to see it next door to Thrust 2 and Thrust SSC.
It has been refurbished recently!

mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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IN51GHT said:
Geely actually approached us after their chairman had paid a visit to Coventry transport museum.
he might have been visiting tehir new building (actually bigger than it looks in the picture), which isn't far from there: http://london-taxis.co.uk/blog/?id=1188

IN51GHT

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8,777 posts

210 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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mcdjl said:
IN51GHT said:
Geely actually approached us after their chairman had paid a visit to Coventry transport museum.
he might have been visiting tehir new building (actually bigger than it looks in the picture), which isn't far from there: http://london-taxis.co.uk/blog/?id=1188
Yep, pretty sure that's what happened.

There really is a mountain of work to get through to get the car ready for running under it's own power.

djdest

6,542 posts

178 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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What's the chances of it running at Newquay next August when I'm on holiday just up the road hehe

IN51GHT

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8,777 posts

210 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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djdest said:
What's the chances of it running at Newquay next August when I'm on holiday just up the road hehe
If we are in Newquay in August we are running a little late, we'll know nearer the time.

IN51GHT

Original Poster:

8,777 posts

210 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Sadly one of our competitors had a very close call today.

Jessi Combs was driving when things started to go seriously pear shaped, no real info yet but it sounds like they had multiple systems failure.

Thankfully both she & the team are all safe & packing up ready to go home in one piece.

This time next year it's out turn to come under scrutiny & this acts as a timely reminder that this is land speed racing business is bloody dangerous & you cannot take your eye off the ball for a split second (not saying the NAE team did), if you do there's a good chance it's going to bite you on the arse.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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Question: How much risk analysis and FMEM have you guys done? I should imagine the failure inter dependability matrix is pretty complex and odd shaped given the disparate types of systems fitted to the vehicle?

fatbutt

2,654 posts

264 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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IN51GHT said:
Sadly one of our competitors had a very close call today.

Jessi Combs was driving when things started to go seriously pear shaped, no real info yet but it sounds like they had multiple systems failure.

Thankfully both she & the team are all safe & packing up ready to go home in one piece.

This time next year it's out turn to come under scrutiny & this acts as a timely reminder that this is land speed racing business is bloody dangerous & you cannot take your eye off the ball for a split second (not saying the NAE team did), if you do there's a good chance it's going to bite you on the arse.
I can't seem to find anything online about this; was it the North American Eagle car?

KarlMac

4,480 posts

141 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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rohrl said:
Gareth79 said:
I imagine that was set so that if the project wasn't completed (ie. the engines never used) they would have to be sent back and wouldn't form the assets.

I was going to say that once they had been used I doubt anybody would want to use them in an aircraft, but it looks like Thrust SSCs engines were removed after the record? I can see that one is in a separate museum (Flixton) but I couldn't immediately find out the history.
Once those jets have sucked a whole load of sand and dust through them I can't imagine they'll be much use to anyone. If you look at Thrust SSC you can see how much damage was done to all the leading edges of the vehicle by dust and grit and this will be all the way through the engine.
From memory (I'm sure Mark will correct me if I'm wrong) the engines are 'on loan' as the remaining flight hours makes them effectively useless for planes (something like 50 hours across 3 engines) but is ample for what the Bloodhound team intend. Sort of a final hurrah for the engine so I suppose the chance of them stopping with the car is reasonably high.

IN51GHT

Original Poster:

8,777 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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KarlMac said:
rohrl said:
Gareth79 said:
I imagine that was set so that if the project wasn't completed (ie. the engines never used) they would have to be sent back and wouldn't form the assets.

I was going to say that once they had been used I doubt anybody would want to use them in an aircraft, but it looks like Thrust SSCs engines were removed after the record? I can see that one is in a separate museum (Flixton) but I couldn't immediately find out the history.
Once those jets have sucked a whole load of sand and dust through them I can't imagine they'll be much use to anyone. If you look at Thrust SSC you can see how much damage was done to all the leading edges of the vehicle by dust and grit and this will be all the way through the engine.
From memory (I'm sure Mark will correct me if I'm wrong) the engines are 'on loan' as the remaining flight hours makes them effectively useless for planes (something like 50 hours across 3 engines) but is ample for what the Bloodhound team intend. Sort of a final hurrah for the engine so I suppose the chance of them stopping with the car is reasonably high.
Yep, that's pretty much the long & short of it.

IN51GHT

Original Poster:

8,777 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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fatbutt said:
IN51GHT said:
Sadly one of our competitors had a very close call today.

Jessi Combs was driving when things started to go seriously pear shaped, no real info yet but it sounds like they had multiple systems failure.

Thankfully both she & the team are all safe & packing up ready to go home in one piece.

This time next year it's out turn to come under scrutiny & this acts as a timely reminder that this is land speed racing business is bloody dangerous & you cannot take your eye off the ball for a split second (not saying the NAE team did), if you do there's a good chance it's going to bite you on the arse.
I can't seem to find anything online about this; was it the North American Eagle car?
From what little info I can find it would appear Jessi ran off course, then suffered multiple chute failure, resulting in the "car" being parked thus....


robinessex

11,057 posts

181 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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IN51GHT said:
fatbutt said:
IN51GHT said:
Sadly one of our competitors had a very close call today.

Jessi Combs was driving when things started to go seriously pear shaped, no real info yet but it sounds like they had multiple systems failure.

Thankfully both she & the team are all safe & packing up ready to go home in one piece.

This time next year it's out turn to come under scrutiny & this acts as a timely reminder that this is land speed racing business is bloody dangerous & you cannot take your eye off the ball for a split second (not saying the NAE team did), if you do there's a good chance it's going to bite you on the arse.
I can't seem to find anything online about this; was it the North American Eagle car?
From what little info I can find it would appear Jessi ran off course, then suffered multiple chute failure, resulting in the "car" being parked thus....

That's a fail then ?

Soov535

35,829 posts

271 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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IN51GHT said:
fatbutt said:
IN51GHT said:
Sadly one of our competitors had a very close call today.

Jessi Combs was driving when things started to go seriously pear shaped, no real info yet but it sounds like they had multiple systems failure.

Thankfully both she & the team are all safe & packing up ready to go home in one piece.

This time next year it's out turn to come under scrutiny & this acts as a timely reminder that this is land speed racing business is bloody dangerous & you cannot take your eye off the ball for a split second (not saying the NAE team did), if you do there's a good chance it's going to bite you on the arse.
I can't seem to find anything online about this; was it the North American Eagle car?
From what little info I can find it would appear Jessi ran off course, then suffered multiple chute failure, resulting in the "car" being parked thus....

Bl00dy hell that's just a plane with no wings yikes