Bloodhound LSR Thread As Requested...

Bloodhound LSR Thread As Requested...

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ess

791 posts

178 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
surprised redbull where not knocking at the door, sounds exactly their sort of thing
Not hugely surprised

They like flashy and bullstty dudes who wear sun glasses in doors

This is some blokes in a shed wearing overalls with some serious know how
I walk by the Redbull(sh*t) Studios on Tooley St, Bermondsey on the way to work.
Have no idea what they do other than there is aways a "MF KultureKlash" going on.
Whatever that means.

s

robinessex

11,050 posts

181 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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mcdjl said:
Squiggs said:
A simple question from a simpleton .....
What's a 7075 T6 billet and what does it look like before it's been machined?
It's a material specification grade for aluminium. It looks like a rather large lump of metal, approximately a cuboid just a bit bigger than the finished thing. And yes I'm guessing that 90% will have been machined away...thats aircraft levels of loss!
Not so bad. You just pop the scrap back in the melting pot, and produce another brick to chew up in the CNC thingy.

bern

1,262 posts

220 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Max_Torque said:
^^^ Another one of those parts where 99% of the material you buy for the part actually ends up in the swarf re-cycling bin!! ;-)

(iirc, on one of the US fighter demonstrator projects some years ago(might have been F-22?) they forged a huge Titanium main bulkhead ('twix cockpit and main wing spar iirc) that was 5m across, then spent literally several months final machining it. Unfortunately, the set up / jig was wrong, and it was out of tolerance! Think that was an >$1M mistake....... )
I remember watching the documentary on that years ago. 10 internet beers if anyone can find a link to the video?!

AER

1,142 posts

270 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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mcdjl said:
It's a material specification grade for aluminium. It looks like a rather large lump of metal, approximately a cuboid just a bit bigger than the finished thing. And yes I'm guessing that 90% will have been machined away...thats aircraft levels of loss!
to be honest, it doesn't take very long neither does it cost very much especially relative to the cost of the programming and machining time, the vast majority of which is in the finishing operations.

RealityDisorder

8 posts

114 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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IN51GHT said:
Not a case of little faith, more a case that the three rockets we are using in year two are larger than the current hole in the back of the car!!!!
What sort of thrust are you expecting to be getting from one of these rockets? Will Nammo be able to 'soup them up' for you, or is it just a case of an off the shelf product now?

Ta...

IN51GHT

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8,777 posts

210 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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RealityDisorder said:
What sort of thrust are you expecting to be getting from one of these rockets? Will Nammo be able to 'soup them up' for you, or is it just a case of an off the shelf product now?

Ta...
Thrust from each rocket is in the region of 33Kn, we are effectively piggy backed on Nammo's existing ESA programme.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
Not hugely surprised

They like flashy and bullstty dudes who wear sun glasses in doors
You obviously haven't worked in the MK factory wink

RealityDisorder

8 posts

114 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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IN51GHT said:
RealityDisorder said:
What sort of thrust are you expecting to be getting from one of these rockets? Will Nammo be able to 'soup them up' for you, or is it just a case of an off the shelf product now?

Ta...
Thrust from each rocket is in the region of 33Kn, we are effectively piggy backed on Nammo's existing ESA programme.
So, taking the the 123.75kN figure you've always been quoting on the website, that's equivalent to 3.75 Nammo rockets?
I think that you suggested you could get 4 in if you needed to earlier in this thread, is that right?

Do your latest calculations suggest that 99kN may be enough for 1000mph? or are you just going to have to suck it and see?

Thanks in advance....

IN51GHT

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8,777 posts

210 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Don't forget the 90kN offered by the EJ200

RealityDisorder

8 posts

114 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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IN51GHT said:
Don't forget the 90kN offered by the EJ200
I wasn't, the website talks about 90kN (20,233lb) from the jet and a further (peak power) 122kN (27,427lb) from the rocket (the Falcon rocket at the time it was written).

So I was just unsure whether you are going to need around 120 kN thrust from the rocket to break 1000mph or whether your initial calculations might have been a bit pessimistic and whether around 100 would do.

Is 950mph a good enough LSR, or would people feel a little disappointed?

Of course, if you can fit 4 rockets to the car or possibly squeeze a little more thrust out of the jet and/or rockets then you might find you have more power than you need.

Just wondering.

Sonic

4,007 posts

207 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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I'm late to the party as i've only just stumbled across this thread but some awesome pics and info here - thanks for those involved that continue to update!

Having just caught up and read the last few pages i see the Cosworth engine has been replaced with the Jag V8 which will have design and engineering knock-on effects, but i can't see why the Cosworth engine was removed and a new sponsor needed to be found. How come this is the case? The Cosworth engine seemed like a good shout!

CraigyMc

16,381 posts

236 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Sonic said:
I'm late to the party as i've only just stumbled across this thread but some awesome pics and info here - thanks for those involved that continue to update!

Having just caught up and read the last few pages i see the Cosworth engine has been replaced with the Jag V8 which will have design and engineering knock-on effects, but i can't see why the Cosworth engine was removed and a new sponsor needed to be found. How come this is the case? The Cosworth engine seemed like a good shout!
Cosworth don't have a current F1 program, I'd warrant that had a lot to do with it.

Sonic

4,007 posts

207 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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CraigyMc said:
Cosworth don't have a current F1 program, I'd warrant that had a lot to do with it.
Thanks.

Indeed, i guess is whilst a while ago now Cosworth came onboard. It just seems a shame for such effort to be made to design and make a highly bespoke integration with it, only for that to be "a very expensive paperweight" as in51ght put it hehe

I see the split was announced in 2013 so i'm quite behind the times, and also see there was some discussion on page 3 of this thread now i've finally got back that far smile

IN51GHT

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8,777 posts

210 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Purely down to Cosworth having to cut back on projects that didn't generate a revenue stream.

Sonic

4,007 posts

207 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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You must some spare parts you were using laying around, so i'm hoping to see a thread pop up about how to mate a 750bhp Cosworth CA2010 into a Honda Jazz sometime in the near future hehe

Bonefish Blues

26,602 posts

223 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Sonic said:
You must some spare parts you were using laying around, so i'm hoping to see a thread pop up about how to mate a 750bhp Cosworth CA2010 into a Honda Jazz sometime in the near future hehe
Insight, shirley?

mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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AER said:
mcdjl said:
It's a material specification grade for aluminium. It looks like a rather large lump of metal, approximately a cuboid just a bit bigger than the finished thing. And yes I'm guessing that 90% will have been machined away...thats aircraft levels of loss!
to be honest, it doesn't take very long neither does it cost very much especially relative to the cost of the programming and machining time, the vast majority of which is in the finishing operations.
Not in the case of a one of like this maybe, but Airbus etc are doing significant work into additive manufacturing to try and reduce these costs as they do add up once in 'mass' production.

IN51GHT

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8,777 posts

210 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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The boys managed to dry-fit one of the front bell cranks & spring/damper assy's today.



Bear in mind the front subframe is near around 750mm long!!!

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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IN51GHT said:
The boys managed to dry-fit one of the front bell cranks & spring/damper assy's today.



Bear in mind the front subframe is near around 750mm long!!!
the question is

What is more impressive

The MASSIVE spring and damper assembly

or the fact the front appears to be resting on two legs from a Ikea flat pack desk

Storer

5,024 posts

215 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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I know you plan to do 1000mph in a straight line but some form of steering must be required to keep it straight.
What, where and how?

I assume it is a one-off design but is it power assisted, British built and is it connected mechanically to the steering wheel or "fly by wire(or hydraulic hose)"?


Paul