Bloodhound LSR Thread As Requested...

Bloodhound LSR Thread As Requested...

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Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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This is going to sound like a supremely stupid question but is wireless technology progressing to the point where speed and latency is getting to a point where you could run the vehicle remotely?

I understand the record would only stand with a human on board, but it would surely allow for some extreme testing in the future.

gifdy

2,073 posts

242 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Standard 'mobile' technology as used by your friendly operator - no. 5G will get down to 1ms latency and you could build a proprietary point to point system with even less but I don't suppose that would be the limiting factor. Responding to issues in the car will depend on anticipation and instinct which are built up from years of experience and all sorts of sensory inputs - some of which could be very subtle and the pilot, sorry driver, may not even be conscious of them. How would you transfer all these 'feelings' back to a remote pilot ?


Pete102

2,046 posts

187 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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This thing is gonna be in-fricken-credible. cant wait.

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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gifdy said:
Standard 'mobile' technology as used by your friendly operator - no. 5G will get down to 1ms latency and you could build a proprietary point to point system with even less but I don't suppose that would be the limiting factor. Responding to issues in the car will depend on anticipation and instinct which are built up from years of experience and all sorts of sensory inputs - some of which could be very subtle and the pilot, sorry driver, may not even be conscious of them. How would you transfer all these 'feelings' back to a remote pilot ?
I did think that an advanced 'simulator' that responds to real time telemetry could be employed.

gifdy

2,073 posts

242 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Asterix said:
gifdy said:
Standard 'mobile' technology as used by your friendly operator - no. 5G will get down to 1ms latency and you could build a proprietary point to point system with even less but I don't suppose that would be the limiting factor. Responding to issues in the car will depend on anticipation and instinct which are built up from years of experience and all sorts of sensory inputs - some of which could be very subtle and the pilot, sorry driver, may not even be conscious of them. How would you transfer all these 'feelings' back to a remote pilot ?
I did think that an advanced 'simulator' that responds to real time telemetry could be employed.
Sure - just saying the radio link wouldn't be the issue. I would think the hard work is in the sensors and replaying the experience in the simulator in enough detail. Given no-one has driven a car at 1000mph before, how do you know you are capturing everything ?

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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gifdy said:
Asterix said:
gifdy said:
Standard 'mobile' technology as used by your friendly operator - no. 5G will get down to 1ms latency and you could build a proprietary point to point system with even less but I don't suppose that would be the limiting factor. Responding to issues in the car will depend on anticipation and instinct which are built up from years of experience and all sorts of sensory inputs - some of which could be very subtle and the pilot, sorry driver, may not even be conscious of them. How would you transfer all these 'feelings' back to a remote pilot ?
I did think that an advanced 'simulator' that responds to real time telemetry could be employed.
Sure - just saying the radio link wouldn't be the issue. I would think the hard work is in the sensors and replaying the experience in the simulator in enough detail. Given no-one has driven a car at 1000mph before, how do you know you are capturing everything ?
If I had the answers mate, I wouldn't be banging around scratching a living in the rat race hehe

gifdy

2,073 posts

242 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Asterix said:
gifdy said:
Asterix said:
gifdy said:
Standard 'mobile' technology as used by your friendly operator - no. 5G will get down to 1ms latency and you could build a proprietary point to point system with even less but I don't suppose that would be the limiting factor. Responding to issues in the car will depend on anticipation and instinct which are built up from years of experience and all sorts of sensory inputs - some of which could be very subtle and the pilot, sorry driver, may not even be conscious of them. How would you transfer all these 'feelings' back to a remote pilot ?
I did think that an advanced 'simulator' that responds to real time telemetry could be employed.
Sure - just saying the radio link wouldn't be the issue. I would think the hard work is in the sensors and replaying the experience in the simulator in enough detail. Given no-one has driven a car at 1000mph before, how do you know you are capturing everything ?
If I had the answers mate, I wouldn't be banging around scratching a living in the rat race hehe
If you work it out - let me know. I'll build the radio link. 50:50 on the billions we make ?

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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gifdy said:
Asterix said:
gifdy said:
Asterix said:
gifdy said:
Standard 'mobile' technology as used by your friendly operator - no. 5G will get down to 1ms latency and you could build a proprietary point to point system with even less but I don't suppose that would be the limiting factor. Responding to issues in the car will depend on anticipation and instinct which are built up from years of experience and all sorts of sensory inputs - some of which could be very subtle and the pilot, sorry driver, may not even be conscious of them. How would you transfer all these 'feelings' back to a remote pilot ?
I did think that an advanced 'simulator' that responds to real time telemetry could be employed.
Sure - just saying the radio link wouldn't be the issue. I would think the hard work is in the sensors and replaying the experience in the simulator in enough detail. Given no-one has driven a car at 1000mph before, how do you know you are capturing everything ?
If I had the answers mate, I wouldn't be banging around scratching a living in the rat race hehe
If you work it out - let me know. I'll build the radio link. 50:50 on the billions we make ?
Sounds like a plan!

Megaflow

9,444 posts

226 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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fatbutt said:
Am I alone in being concerned about the American attempt? Compare and contrast their... ahem... engineered solution to the Bloodhound. I sincerely hope they don't push so hard as to put anyone at risk.



yikes

Sod getting in that...

IN51GHT

Original Poster:

8,782 posts

211 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Here's Rupert & Kayleigh playing tug of war with the canopy......



Looking more like the finished article each day.


rasto

2,188 posts

238 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Sorry to tell you, but that's not a supersonic car - it's a work of art cloud9

What a truly amazing engineering project, I can't wait to see it succeed thumbup

Megaflow

9,444 posts

226 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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IN51GHT said:
Here's Rupert & Kayleigh playing tug of war with the canopy......

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Nice clock...

hehe

ivanhoew

978 posts

242 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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IN51GHT said:
Here's Rupert & Kayleigh playing tug of war with the canopy......





i jolly well hope there did the "TO ME .TO YOU" sketch ?

Looking more like the finished article each day.

yup , just needs the hands fitted?

DoubleSix

11,718 posts

177 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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bow Amazing work...


So we've had a few opinions on the North American project, anyone heard what they think of ours??

morgs_

1,663 posts

188 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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IN51GHT said:
Here's Rupert & Kayleigh playing tug of war with the canopy......

To me, to you hehe

As others have said, it looks gorgeous. Seems like it is coming together really quickly all of a sudden, I guess the addition of the bodywork does that.

Zad

12,704 posts

237 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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I'm a big fan of the "if it looks right, then it almost certainly is right" approach to engineering, and this has more than a hint of Spitfire, Concorde and E-Type in it's DNA. It also looks like a really fast car should look in the 21st century!

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Megaflow said:
fatbutt said:
Am I alone in being concerned about the American attempt? Compare and contrast their... ahem... engineered solution to the Bloodhound. I sincerely hope they don't push so hard as to put anyone at risk.



yikes

Sod getting in that...
The rollover protection, or more accurately, the lack of rollover protection worries me a great deal. Lets face it, LSR cars are not exactly known for their stability and ANY speed.....

CraigyMc

16,423 posts

237 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Max_Torque said:
The rollover protection, or more accurately, the lack of rollover protection worries me a great deal. Lets face it, LSR cars are not exactly known for their stability and ANY speed.....
Are they using an ejector seat? (I'd imagine not, but the plane probably came with one...)

No has to be the only answer to the above, as the F104 ejects downwards out of the bottom of the fuselage, which is probably not that helpful in an LSR car.

Edited by CraigyMc on Friday 6th March 14:02

mcdjl

5,451 posts

196 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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CraigyMc said:
Max_Torque said:
The rollover protection, or more accurately, the lack of rollover protection worries me a great deal. Lets face it, LSR cars are not exactly known for their stability and ANY speed.....
Are they using an ejector seat? (I'd imagine not, but the plane probably came with one...)

No has to be the only answer to the above, as the F104 ejects downwards out of the bottom of the fuselage, which is probably not that helpful in an LSR car.

Edited by CraigyMc on Friday 6th March 14:02
It is, if you eject once the cars no longer on its wheels, odds are you'll then be fired upwards wink

CraigyMc

16,423 posts

237 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Does bloodhound have an emergency keep-the-nose-on-the-deck rocket system as run on Thrust SSC?