Bloodhound LSR Thread As Requested...

Bloodhound LSR Thread As Requested...

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IN51GHT

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IN51GHT

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Wednesday 18th December 2013
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CraigyMc said:
Are they still supplying a motor to drive the HTP pump?
Nope

IN51GHT

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Wednesday 18th December 2013
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There are three possible solutions on the table already. We just need to make a decision, quickly.

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Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Max_Torque said:
Surely a small helicopter turbine is a better choice anyway? 665bhp easily, not may starting/warm up concerns like the F1 motor, runs on the same fuel as the EJ200, no issues with G / oiling etc. May even be able to drive the HTP pump directly from the power turbine (30krpm ish iirc?)

Probably smaller, needs less cooling, and about the same weight as the F1 motor too

I assume ~700hp is too much from the EJ200 accessory drive output?
Yes it is too much, there is literally no spare capacity on the accessory drive at all.

A small turbine was looked at, repackaging the car to accept at this stage would add too much to the project timescale.

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Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Greg_D said:
so essentially, you are limited to another flavour of current or recent F1 engine. it could be either a very easy (hello renault, will you let us have last years F1 engine and we will make a marketing splash about it - "ok") or very difficult (5 or 6 phone calls later and everyone has said no, eek)
Or something lower revving, but with more torque, then we can gear up.

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Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Max_Torque said:
What speed does the HTP pump need to be driven at for max flow?
At current efficiency, 11,000rpm.


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Thursday 19th December 2013
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Storer said:
I just happen to have an engine that produces 1500ftlbs of torque at just 1200rpm. 600hp and runs on petrol (ordinary unleaded so cheaper fuel than an F1).

Then you spoiled the idea by wanting a compact and light weight unit!

It weighs 650kgs and is 4ft long...............


The good thing is it was made in the UK...............about 58 years ago.



Paul
I've been following your build thread with interest. Can you imagine the step up box we'd need!!!

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Thursday 19th December 2013
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poppopbangbang said:
We have lots of V10 F1 engines that will manage 700bhp and we'd love to assist with Bloodhound. Who do I need to speak to?
e-mail sent

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Thursday 19th December 2013
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Been dying to blurt this out, but for obvious reasons it's been embargoed.

New rocket partner announced!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-2542...

Edited by IN51GHT on Thursday 19th December 08:58

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Friday 20th December 2013
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Storer said:
I am honoured that someone with your skills and demands on your time has had a look at my (very) simple little project!
Behave.

I love the fact that there are still crazy people in sheds, doing stuff, just because they can. I'd love to see it in the flesh sometime.

Storer said:
On the rocket front. Does Andy have any control of the rocket once he has lit the touch paper? Can he "throttle" it or is it 'all or nothing'? You (he) must have some control, I assume, and can even shut it down if needed.
We can control the flow of HTP to the catalyst pack via a ball valve, therefore the power of the hybrid rocket


Edited by IN51GHT on Friday 20th December 09:52

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Friday 20th December 2013
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Justaredbadge said:
what does this mean for that chap with the moustache? Was it Daniel Jubb?

Is the inhouse development team no long needed at all?
All it really changes is the rocket, we still have to pump & distributed HTP, refill etc, so whilst the details of the system will change, the concept will remain very similar. Little, if anything will change within the Bloodhound team.

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Friday 20th December 2013
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More deliveries.

Brians uprights this time, fresh from brake testing yesterday.







...and to give an idea of size, an idiot holding one!!!



Edited by IN51GHT on Friday 20th December 09:29

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Friday 20th December 2013
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harryowl said:
The Menard v8 in the caparo T1 produces 575bhp @ 10.5krpm on pump fuel.
Almost certainly got insufficient torque. Only has 290lb ft, so we'd probably stall it as we fed the pump in.

I believe F1 lumps have in the region of 290lb/ft, but due to the reduction box that goes up at the pump to about 460lb/ft


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Friday 20th December 2013
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CraigyMc said:
Hrmm. How big would a flybrid have to be to deliver the requisite power?
Pretty huge I'd have thought.

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Friday 20th December 2013
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Max_Torque said:
Couple of questions:

1) why did you choose to integrate half of the brake caliper into the upright?
Lack of space forced our hand

Max_Torque said:
2) Did the "idiot" not read the label?? ;-)
Do not touch only applied to the built up ones as they have been tested/bled.

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Monday 23rd December 2013
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Megaflow said:
Whilst I love the fact we Brit's have taken the last 3 land speed records and as yet the Americans can get close to them, I do wonder, if Bloodhound is successful and does take the record to beyond 1000mph, does that mark the end of the land speed record?
I hope not, whilst Bloodhound is no doubt bloody hard work some days, I'd be up for the challenge of a Mach 2 car once we are done.

Megaflow said:
Getting to 1000mph is going to take a lot of very clever people, a very long time to achieve and I wonder if any faster is actually dooable. At some point we are just going to run out of land.
Salar de Uyuni in Bolivia is a pretty huge salt pan.

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Monday 23rd December 2013
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Max_Torque said:
OK, interesting, potentially a bit of a PITA if you get a fluid leak, but i guess that is really pretty unlikely. What is the brake disc material/spec? Carbon/Carbon ?? (Assume you can't stop that hard with wheel brakes on a dry lake bed anyway due to a lack of friction)
Steel discs for high speed running, carbon for runway. Due to the higher friction offered by the rubber runway tyres carbon is required for runway testing.

We did some spin testing on carbon discs from the Euro Fighter brake pack & we suffered failure at just above & just below 10,000rpm, so carbon discs were unsuitable for desert running.

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Monday 6th January 2014
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Little bit of progress over the xmas break.

The compound curvature section of Ti skin has been formed on the buck.


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Monday 6th January 2014
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CraigyMc said:
Why is it L-shaped rather than the same shape as the sheet it came as? Is there a different material or thickness below?

Happy new year, by the way smile
Aperture for airbrake door!!

There was another special event too.

RN got married on 4th Jan at Coventry transport museum, was a great party.

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Monday 6th January 2014
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Storer said:
Please tell me this was done the old fashioned way using an English wheel. And why a metal form rather than wood?

Is titanium difficult to use/shape or is it like very, very, very, expensive steel??

So many questions and so little time!!!


Paul
It was done on an English wheel.

We couldn't make the skins from wood as it is not strong enough!!

It's a bd to form.