Bloodhound LSR Thread As Requested...
Discussion
Voldemort said:
Struggling to see any benefit in this...
Obviously it is not a car and has nothing to do with cars. Surely any knowledge/experience that it might bring has already been learnt from supersonic jet development? Do they really need to break a record they already hold?
Of course it's going to be magnificently built but it's a folly at best and at worst just pissing millions of quid up the wall. Why?
Can I direct you to this page www.pistonheads.com at the top you'll see a banner that says "Speed Matters" we know this to be true, else we wouldn't be here. So by applying advance man maths logic IF speed matters THEN MORE Speed Matters More... and thats all you need to know!!Obviously it is not a car and has nothing to do with cars. Surely any knowledge/experience that it might bring has already been learnt from supersonic jet development? Do they really need to break a record they already hold?
Of course it's going to be magnificently built but it's a folly at best and at worst just pissing millions of quid up the wall. Why?
Arlie71 said:
IN51GHT, Thanks for an incredible thread.
Can I ask a bit about yourself ? Whats your background and how did you end up working on Bloodhound ?
I always find it fascinating the different way lives end up, and its inspiring to hear the stories of those lucky (and of course talented) enough to be involved in something so special.
Keep the photos and details coming, ignore Voldemort, he obviously doesn't realise the answer to his question is of course "Speed Matters"
Cheers
Andy :-)
Luck had a BIG part to play.Can I ask a bit about yourself ? Whats your background and how did you end up working on Bloodhound ?
I always find it fascinating the different way lives end up, and its inspiring to hear the stories of those lucky (and of course talented) enough to be involved in something so special.
Keep the photos and details coming, ignore Voldemort, he obviously doesn't realise the answer to his question is of course "Speed Matters"
Cheers
Andy :-)
I left school with no qualifications other than a grade C in physics.
Found myself accidentally doing a 3year engineering GCSE at 6th form in a year, whilst doing maths & english re-takes. Failed the Maths & English (got D's) but got an A* in the engineering.
On the back of this I applied for a craft apprenticeship with GKN Westlands, which I started to really enjoy, then moved onto a technician apprenticeship in the same company as I was taking to it really well.
At the end of the 4 year apprenticeship I was offered a position in GKN Westland design services, where I spent 5 years or so doing detail design, until I went to the NEC for the Motorshow in 1998, where we were given a copy of the Telegraph, which we thought would be useful as the Guinea Pigs needed cleaning out & we had run out of news paper to line the hutch with.
Whilst cleaning out the aforementioned Guinea Pigs the news paper fell open at the jobs page, where Williams F1 were advertising for detail design engineers, I applied, got the job & spent until 2005 there. Started doing detail design, worked my way up to the point where I was doing concept assy design & detailing, at which point I needed to spend some time with the family, so took a job designing railway signalling equipment, until Bloodhound came knocking in 2011.
I'm convinced if I didn't end up at sixth form doing the engineering GSCE I'd be staking shelves in my local supermarket now, I got lucky & accidentally found something I actually enjoyed doing.
Edited by IN51GHT on Friday 22 November 14:58
This is a great thread and a great project.
Without jumping on the Voldermort bashing bandwagon I think I do have a serious answer to offer up on the question of "why?"
This money isn't just being burned so no-one else can have it - it's being spent in a way that benefits the working society. I don't know the arrangements for paying those designing and building it - if it's paid for then it's keeping guys employed. If not, it's keeping them busy with an exciting hobby.
The materials have to be purchased, boosting the finances of the companies which produce the raw materials and pays the workers who work there. Likewise the money trickles down into all sorts of working men and womens' pockets of all sorts of suppliers of components and sundries. Machinists and even people who make tools for the machines are kept gainfully employed here.
None of it is wasted if the person paying the bills is willing to spend it, and the benefits of building this will be shared amongst the far corners of the manufacturing industry and the people who work in it.
It doesn't need to make a profit in the end - so long as someone's happy to spend their money having a good time along the way
Without jumping on the Voldermort bashing bandwagon I think I do have a serious answer to offer up on the question of "why?"
This money isn't just being burned so no-one else can have it - it's being spent in a way that benefits the working society. I don't know the arrangements for paying those designing and building it - if it's paid for then it's keeping guys employed. If not, it's keeping them busy with an exciting hobby.
The materials have to be purchased, boosting the finances of the companies which produce the raw materials and pays the workers who work there. Likewise the money trickles down into all sorts of working men and womens' pockets of all sorts of suppliers of components and sundries. Machinists and even people who make tools for the machines are kept gainfully employed here.
None of it is wasted if the person paying the bills is willing to spend it, and the benefits of building this will be shared amongst the far corners of the manufacturing industry and the people who work in it.
It doesn't need to make a profit in the end - so long as someone's happy to spend their money having a good time along the way
IN51GHT said:
Luck had a BIG part to play.
I left school with no qualifications other than a grade C in physics.
Found myself accidentally doing a 3year engineering GCSE at 6th form in a year, whilst doing maths & english re-takes. Failed the Maths & English (got D's) but got an A* in the engineering.
On the back of this I applied for a craft apprenticeship with GKN Westlands, which I started to really enjoy, then moved onto a technician apprenticeship in the same company as I was taking to it really well.
At the end of the 4 year apprenticeship I was offered a position in GKN Westland design services, where I spent 5 years or so doing detail design, until I went to the NEC for the Motorshow in 1998, where we were given a copy of the Telegraph, which we thought would be useful as the Guinea Pigs needed cleaning out & we had run out of news paper to line the hutch with.
Whilst cleaning out the aforementioned Guinea Pigs the news paper fell open at the jobs page, where Williams F1 were advertising for detail design engineers, I applied, got the job & spent until 2005 there. Started doing detail design, worked my way up to the point where I was doing concept assy design & detailing, at which point I needed to spend some time with the family, so took a job designing railway signalling equipment, until Bloodhound came knocking in 2011.
I'm convinced if I didn't end up at sixth form doing the engineering GSCE I'd be staking shelves in my local supermarket now, I got lucky & accidentally found something I actually enjoyed doing.
That's a great story I left school with no qualifications other than a grade C in physics.
Found myself accidentally doing a 3year engineering GCSE at 6th form in a year, whilst doing maths & english re-takes. Failed the Maths & English (got D's) but got an A* in the engineering.
On the back of this I applied for a craft apprenticeship with GKN Westlands, which I started to really enjoy, then moved onto a technician apprenticeship in the same company as I was taking to it really well.
At the end of the 4 year apprenticeship I was offered a position in GKN Westland design services, where I spent 5 years or so doing detail design, until I went to the NEC for the Motorshow in 1998, where we were given a copy of the Telegraph, which we thought would be useful as the Guinea Pigs needed cleaning out & we had run out of news paper to line the hutch with.
Whilst cleaning out the aforementioned Guinea Pigs the news paper fell open at the jobs page, where Williams F1 were advertising for detail design engineers, I applied, got the job & spent until 2005 there. Started doing detail design, worked my way up to the point where I was doing concept assy design & detailing, at which point I needed to spend some time with the family, so took a job designing railway signalling equipment, until Bloodhound came knocking in 2011.
I'm convinced if I didn't end up at sixth form doing the engineering GSCE I'd be staking shelves in my local supermarket now, I got lucky & accidentally found something I actually enjoyed doing.
Edited by IN51GHT on Friday 22 November 14:58
Really interesting thread as well, will be interested to see it develop.
"Get your logo on that"
... "Whilst cleaning out the aforementioned Guinea Pigs the news paper fell open at the jobs page, where Williams F1 were advertising for detail design engineers, I applied, got the job & spent until 2005 there...."
Thanks for such a detailed reply, loving the Guinea Pig involvement :-). I love hearing about lives that have taken twists and turns.
Not that I am stalking you, but what ever happened to your Mini Sofa, did it ever get built ?
Thanks for such a detailed reply, loving the Guinea Pig involvement :-). I love hearing about lives that have taken twists and turns.
Not that I am stalking you, but what ever happened to your Mini Sofa, did it ever get built ?
One last pic before the weekend, weekend away from the office rapidly approaching, eldest daughter has a national gymnastics competition.
This is the 'cradle' that will restrain the 1000 litre H2O2 tank, located inside the rear end on the carbon monocoque. Designed to withstand a 9g "arrival" when full. I can't claim this as one of my parts, Johnny submarine designed it.
This is the 'cradle' that will restrain the 1000 litre H2O2 tank, located inside the rear end on the carbon monocoque. Designed to withstand a 9g "arrival" when full. I can't claim this as one of my parts, Johnny submarine designed it.
Edited by IN51GHT on Friday 22 November 15:57
Fantastic - Thanks for the pics and info fella.
There's a fantastic interview by Gareth Jones with Andy Green - well worth a listen if you get the chance.
edit - added link: http://www.garethjones.tv/onspeed/onspeed207.html
There's a fantastic interview by Gareth Jones with Andy Green - well worth a listen if you get the chance.
edit - added link: http://www.garethjones.tv/onspeed/onspeed207.html
Voldemort said:
Mave said:
No, it hasn't. No supersonic jet goes that fast so low, and no-one understands the interactions betwene the shock waves and the surface.
I thought they had already been supersonic in a car? And if it mattered enough surely it would be cheaper (and safer) to fly a r/c jet packed with sensors down to ground level.Voldemort said:
Maybe I've missed something from the previous attempts? Did they give the world a new non-stick surface for my frying pan? Have they found something so magnificent that they managed to sell it for billions and fund their new attempt? What, in short, have they achieved so far?
I don't think their new attempt is costing billions. Nevertheless, as one single example last time they managed to improve the convergence of CFD codes to a level which hadn't been achieved before.Voldemort said:
I acknowledge the possible engineering benefits and enthusing of a generation. Just like Concorde gave us the engineers able to move passengers at supersonic speeds across the globe: they must be thrilled at the job prospects in the world of non-military supersonic transport that we see all around us today.
Ever heard of transferable skills?Don't know about you, I'm glad I was taught to write at school, even though I'm not a secretary.
I'm glad I was taught how to add up, even though I don't spend all days doing sums.
Could you conceive that some of the engineering knowledge from Concorde has since been used on Airbus and Ariane projects?
And I don't know why you chose to put in the "non-military" caveat; clearly the knowledge was used on Phantom, Tornado, Typhoon etc.
Voldemort said:
Struggling to see any benefit in this...
Obviously it is not a car and has nothing to do with cars. Surely any knowledge/experience that it might bring has already been learnt from supersonic jet development? Do they really need to break a record they already hold?
Of course it's going to be magnificently built but it's a folly at best and at worst just pissing millions of quid up the wall. Why?
Why a folly? Thrust SSC was pretty succesful!Obviously it is not a car and has nothing to do with cars. Surely any knowledge/experience that it might bring has already been learnt from supersonic jet development? Do they really need to break a record they already hold?
Of course it's going to be magnificently built but it's a folly at best and at worst just pissing millions of quid up the wall. Why?
PS, quotes from history "I see no practical application for the jet engine". "I see at most a worldwide market for 100 PCs". "The human cannot withstand speed above 30mph"
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