RE: Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205: PH Heroes
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I've got one 
The water injector really was there, plumbed in and wired in, just the pump side needed to be activated, here is a picture of the water injector -
I have done a few bits and bobs to mine, some suspension work, a bit of tuning, some 'driver contact' mods (see 2' shifter and drastic linkage mods!). Been a lovely car especially for blatting over mountain roads, almost unstoppable in the snow even on summer tyres. Have some pictures and my build thread link -
http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/123485/96-t...
Just got back from a fantastic drive in the GT4, we are in wales and I made a trip from Llangynog to Bala over the Milltir Cerrig mountain pass on the B4391, and oh what a road!
Conditions are not ideal, -4°C and very icy, but the road had been well gritted and the sun had (briefly) passed over it melting the majority of the thin ice. There were however still frozen streams over the road I had to be careful of.
We started at the cottage and down the steep concrete drive, covered in ice! As with every time I drive this car it did not even break a sweat, totally composed, hard to tell there was any ice at all.
Then out on to the pass proper, it was so much fun! The road was freshly gritted and whilst boosting along the grit was pinging up off the arches, it was what I built this car for, B roads
Time for some pictures –
Stopped near the top -
Snaking black top, perfectly smooth too! -
Yep, was icy too –
This was the drive –
Finally a cheeky video going east to west, heading up the pass towards Bala –
Brilliant fun using the car as it was meant, I would love to come back to this road in the summer, about 4.30am on a Sunday, mmmmmmmm.
The water injector really was there, plumbed in and wired in, just the pump side needed to be activated, here is a picture of the water injector -
I have done a few bits and bobs to mine, some suspension work, a bit of tuning, some 'driver contact' mods (see 2' shifter and drastic linkage mods!). Been a lovely car especially for blatting over mountain roads, almost unstoppable in the snow even on summer tyres. Have some pictures and my build thread link -
http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/123485/96-t...
Just got back from a fantastic drive in the GT4, we are in wales and I made a trip from Llangynog to Bala over the Milltir Cerrig mountain pass on the B4391, and oh what a road!
Conditions are not ideal, -4°C and very icy, but the road had been well gritted and the sun had (briefly) passed over it melting the majority of the thin ice. There were however still frozen streams over the road I had to be careful of.
We started at the cottage and down the steep concrete drive, covered in ice! As with every time I drive this car it did not even break a sweat, totally composed, hard to tell there was any ice at all.
Then out on to the pass proper, it was so much fun! The road was freshly gritted and whilst boosting along the grit was pinging up off the arches, it was what I built this car for, B roads
Time for some pictures –
Stopped near the top -
Snaking black top, perfectly smooth too! -
Yep, was icy too –
This was the drive –
Finally a cheeky video going east to west, heading up the pass towards Bala –
Brilliant fun using the car as it was meant, I would love to come back to this road in the summer, about 4.30am on a Sunday, mmmmmmmm.
Axel350Z said:
Any input on how tunable they are? How far can you take the engine without going forged internals etc...
To my mind I think these would be way better with 330-350ish bhp? Properly fast like they should have been
Decat and a filter took my JDM to 282/268. A boost controller will see around 300 but any more will over-stress the engine making it a bit less reliable. 280 is just about right and with a nice thick ARB on the rear they point like a Lotus (no exaggeration), or at least mine did with the 6-way TRD struts. To my mind I think these would be way better with 330-350ish bhp? Properly fast like they should have been
^^Looks a great car and on the sort of roads it's meant for! 
I've got one of these too. Such a great car. Very reliable too and great fun. I plan on replacing the Blitz exhaust with the quieter Mongoose one soon, along with the whiteline ARB too.
Had it dyno'd a while back and it was producing 269bhp/250lbft, which is great considering the only mod if an Apexi Intake (Blitz exhaust is backbox only).
I've got one of these too. Such a great car. Very reliable too and great fun. I plan on replacing the Blitz exhaust with the quieter Mongoose one soon, along with the whiteline ARB too.
Had it dyno'd a while back and it was producing 269bhp/250lbft, which is great considering the only mod if an Apexi Intake (Blitz exhaust is backbox only).
My old ST185 at Castle Combe Rally Day
My White ST205 at Castle Combe
and at Santa Pod
great cars, easy to tune (but not necessarily cheap)
Very reliable, only areas of concern on the ST205 is front suspension cars and links
Loads of info on the GT4OC website, www.gt4oc.net.
My White ST205 at Castle Combe
and at Santa Pod
great cars, easy to tune (but not necessarily cheap)
Very reliable, only areas of concern on the ST205 is front suspension cars and links
Loads of info on the GT4OC website, www.gt4oc.net.
Steamer said:
Previous model: popup headlights, safari bars and snorkel FTW!
Love all of the GT4 models actually - the one before this was ace too
I drove one of these for 3 year of Targa Tasmania, also navigated once.Love all of the GT4 models actually - the one before this was ace too
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Ved said:
Axel350Z said:
Any input on how tunable they are? How far can you take the engine without going forged internals etc...
To my mind I think these would be way better with 330-350ish bhp? Properly fast like they should have been
Decat and a filter took my JDM to 282/268. A boost controller will see around 300 but any more will over-stress the engine making it a bit less reliable. 280 is just about right and with a nice thick ARB on the rear they point like a Lotus (no exaggeration), or at least mine did with the 6-way TRD struts. To my mind I think these would be way better with 330-350ish bhp? Properly fast like they should have been
These are fantastic cars, but they are expensive to tune hence why there are not that many big power ones about. The cost of getting huge numbers out of one is so painful to the degree that you could get a well sorted Evo or even a Skyline for the same dosh. These are best kept standard or with minor mods and a reliable 280 ish BHP. You can not just wind up the boost and go weheyyyy! getting one of these from 280 to 360 + BHP can cost as much as the car sometimes! Having said that although its the least valuable of the Integrale, Cosworth and Quattro generation.. its probably the best car in the real world.
gazchap said:
Any excuse to trot out these shots of mine:
I rarely use mine these days, mainly because I've acquired a lower back problem and have trouble getting in and out of the damn thing, but I've done around 30,000 miles in it since I bought it in January 2009 (when it was just a bog standard car with very few mods) and loved every one of them. Ridiculously good road holding, decent power and has decent fuel economy too.
The only complaint I'd have is that it's almost too competent, unless you're on a wet track, it's bloody hard to get the back out and have a bit of slippy slidey fun.
I'm sure I saw you going through Shrewsbury town centre in that a few months backI rarely use mine these days, mainly because I've acquired a lower back problem and have trouble getting in and out of the damn thing, but I've done around 30,000 miles in it since I bought it in January 2009 (when it was just a bog standard car with very few mods) and loved every one of them. Ridiculously good road holding, decent power and has decent fuel economy too.
The only complaint I'd have is that it's almost too competent, unless you're on a wet track, it's bloody hard to get the back out and have a bit of slippy slidey fun.
Axel350Z said:
Any input on how tunable they are? How far can you take the engine without going forged internals etc...
To my mind I think these would be way better with 330-350ish bhp? Properly fast like they should have been
Engine wise on mine I've changed: To my mind I think these would be way better with 330-350ish bhp? Properly fast like they should have been
ECU
Injectors
Exhaust
Turbo
Intercooler
Fuel Pump
Boost controller
And it's pushing 356hp and 320ft/lb, I've been told I'vve pretty much done all I can do without forging the internals. If it goes pop I will probably rebuild to standard sp[ec rather than forge as they can take that power without issues, problems happen when the boost is turned up but as long as you stick to 1.2 bar max they should be ok.
With a decent start I'd estimate my 0-60 would be late 4 seconds as with a gash start (bogged down) I managed mid 5's, on a private track I've had 155 (GPS) with 1k revs to go.
Cotty said:
You run it with the stickers on the road 
Yup. What's wrong with that?s m said:
I'm sure I saw you going through Shrewsbury town centre in that a few months back
I live in Shrewsbury, so yeah - almost certainly was me - I very rarely see other ST205s, let alone ones that look like mine I've not driven it since July-ish though.
RyanTank said:
For a long time it was between this and the Impreza as my dream WRC replica car.
Insurance quotes soon ended both those dreams!
One day tho I will own both!!
They compliment each other very well.Insurance quotes soon ended both those dreams!
One day tho I will own both!!
I had a brand new impreza STi at the same time I had the gt4, and the gt4 was the nicer to drive, with a nicely controllable rear but the STi was much faster and grippier. It went as it leaked oil a bit and it was hard to justify two 4wd turbo cars to the new girlfriend at the time
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