RE: BMW 2 Series M Performance upgrades
Discussion
Escort3500 said:
Totally agree. Far easier on the eye than the woeful looking 1 Series (and I include the coupe here) and the comically ugly MINI. I'm a big BMW fan but haven't been tempted since I bought my E46! But this would change my mind if it looks as good in the flesh.
Hmm, I prefer the 1 series in M sport trim to this Trtj said:
Why oh why have BMW gone all pre-chav with the black grills. Dear oh dear. White paint equally as bad, what happened to painting cars proper colours.
I think that generally they look better with black/carbon grilles. I find the chrome a bit too old man for me. Make them look a bit meaner. Obviously the BMW design department agree.cramorra said:
Or you could just bypass that and go aftermarket, Birds offering an off the shelf Quaife differential for the 1 Series fully fitted for a smidge under two-grand. Stands to reason this would fit the 2 Series too if your BMW dealer seems a little non committal about plundering the darkest recesses of the official accessories catalogue there is an alternative.
and loose your warranty when you drive out of the garage????
Not sure you do. I think warranty still holds. Can anyone confirm?and loose your warranty when you drive out of the garage????
It's missing something. The body looks all aggressive and then they finish it off with these narrow arches and some awful wheels. With some flared arches, aka M2, I think this will be a winner but until then I'm not interested. I am also reserved about the BMWP catalogue as when it is all fitted together it looks too much; black grilles, a little lip spoiler front and rear...job done (no horrid skirts).
I wonder how ling it'll be until some tuner confirms if the LSD can be retrofitted to the E8x models. Unlikely but another options for the die-hard fans.
I wonder how ling it'll be until some tuner confirms if the LSD can be retrofitted to the E8x models. Unlikely but another options for the die-hard fans.
Flaring the arches would mean increasing the track, which in turn would mean completely retuning the suspension geometry which probably would have pushed up the price significantly. IIRC, on the 1M they got around this by simply pinching the suspension from the 3-series but that meant substantial subframe modifications which again would make this a much more expensive option.
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 4th December 08:41
I don't know how they do it, but, yet again BMW manage pull another masterpiece from a market dominated by boring machinery.
They seem to have taken probably one of the most desirable car shapes from the 1990's, (a decade renowned for its leap forward in major car designs) and managed to blend into it the corporate BMW stamp, not losing any flair. It's even sharper and more aggressive.
Most manufacturers wouldn't be able to make it work, but the design team at the great Stuttgart factory are leagues ahead of any other competitor. Well done yet again BMW. Fabulous work.
They seem to have taken probably one of the most desirable car shapes from the 1990's, (a decade renowned for its leap forward in major car designs) and managed to blend into it the corporate BMW stamp, not losing any flair. It's even sharper and more aggressive.
Most manufacturers wouldn't be able to make it work, but the design team at the great Stuttgart factory are leagues ahead of any other competitor. Well done yet again BMW. Fabulous work.
Panda P said:
I wonder how ling it'll be until some tuner confirms if the LSD can be retrofitted to the E8x models. Unlikely but another options for the die-hard fans.
Almost certainley it could be retrofitted to the E8* models, as I'm pretty sure Kevin mentioned that the Quaife they offer is the same unit as the E8* and it's effectively the same welded crown wheel 'pumpkin unit' in the rear of the M135i.I doubt there would be any point though in fitting one to a E8*, as the cost of buying one of these from BMW will likely be no cheaper than having a Quaife fitted by Birds, plus a BMW dealer won't fit it/order it to/for a E8* as it won't be listed for the E8* and 'computer says no' will be jobsworth parts mans relpy......plus the Quaife will likely be the better option in reality, for a road car anyway.
deltashad said:
I don't know how they do it, but, yet again BMW manage pull another masterpiece from a market dominated by boring machinery.
They seem to have taken probably one of the most desirable car shapes from the 1990's, (a decade renowned for its leap forward in major car designs) and managed to blend into it the corporate BMW stamp, not losing any flair. It's even sharper and more aggressive.
Most manufacturers wouldn't be able to make it work, but the design team at the great Stuttgart factory are leagues ahead of any other competitor. Well done yet again BMW. Fabulous work.
Are you accusing Porsche of designing BMWs? They seem to have taken probably one of the most desirable car shapes from the 1990's, (a decade renowned for its leap forward in major car designs) and managed to blend into it the corporate BMW stamp, not losing any flair. It's even sharper and more aggressive.
Most manufacturers wouldn't be able to make it work, but the design team at the great Stuttgart factory are leagues ahead of any other competitor. Well done yet again BMW. Fabulous work.
Wills2 said:
deltashad said:
I don't know how they do it, but, yet again BMW manage pull another masterpiece from a market dominated by boring machinery.
They seem to have taken probably one of the most desirable car shapes from the 1990's, (a decade renowned for its leap forward in major car designs) and managed to blend into it the corporate BMW stamp, not losing any flair. It's even sharper and more aggressive.
Most manufacturers wouldn't be able to make it work, but the design team at the great Stuttgart factory are leagues ahead of any other competitor. Well done yet again BMW. Fabulous work.
Are you accusing Porsche of designing BMWs? They seem to have taken probably one of the most desirable car shapes from the 1990's, (a decade renowned for its leap forward in major car designs) and managed to blend into it the corporate BMW stamp, not losing any flair. It's even sharper and more aggressive.
Most manufacturers wouldn't be able to make it work, but the design team at the great Stuttgart factory are leagues ahead of any other competitor. Well done yet again BMW. Fabulous work.
Tomatogti said:
Not sure you do. I think warranty still holds. Can anyone confirm?
Can not quote for BMWbut for example Merc you remove 155 limiter (merely electronic - no mechanical input) and loose warranty- same applies for suspension stuff I thing a lsd wich sits IN the drivetrain is far bigger surgery
cramorra said:
Tomatogti said:
Not sure you do. I think warranty still holds. Can anyone confirm?
Can not quote for BMWbut for example Merc you remove 155 limiter (merely electronic - no mechanical input) and loose warranty- same applies for suspension stuff I thing a lsd wich sits IN the drivetrain is far bigger surgery
http://www.birdsauto.com/content/quaife-atb-limite...
Tomatogti said:
Birds reckon it doesn't impact manufacturers warranty - see link below
http://www.birdsauto.com/content/quaife-atb-limite...
Pinch of salt needed.http://www.birdsauto.com/content/quaife-atb-limite...
Vladimir said:
Pinch of salt needed.
BMW have always in my experience been pretty reasonable about this sort of stuff. Basically, it won't invalidate your while warranty but if something went that was related to the diff being there them they'd have a fair point in saying it's not there responsibility.They aren't like Porsche who are completely over the top with warranty validity.
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