RE: Singer Vehicle Design: PH Meets
Discussion
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Slippydiff said:
Oz83 said:
woof said:
Oddly I think the Singer Porsche is a step too far away from the original for me.
I came across this chap yesterday. Magnus Walker. I love what he does. Not so refined but uber cool.
Warning... You'll lose 30mins of your day watching this video.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/19/watch-the-entir...
Magnus who?I came across this chap yesterday. Magnus Walker. I love what he does. Not so refined but uber cool.
Warning... You'll lose 30mins of your day watching this video.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/19/watch-the-entir...
Seriously though, I do like the 'lifestyle' approach that Magnus has, but some of his modifications are questionable (some of the modified tail lights for example), and adding faux patina - a bit try hard and 'fashion' minded for me. A singer is a re-engineered 911, improved by modern technology and production methods, with a fastidious attention to detail. I admire both builders for their unique approach but I think Singer are in a completely different league.
On the other hand, The Singer is just so beautifully engineered, and the attention to detail so perfect, it makes anything Walker produces look amateur (but maybe that's the attraction of Walkers creations ?)
I think a lot of people find the price of the Singer borderline offensive. And I have to say, when I see quotes of $30,000 for their electrical loom, I can see why. I've no doubt the same loom could be produced in the UK using equally good (if not better) quality components for a third of the price, and if not a third, then half.
But I won't hear anything bad said against the guys at Singer, what they've produced is the perfect foil to the cr*p Porsche are currently producing - Panamera, Cayenne and most iterations of the 991 (Turbo S and GT3 excepted)
The Singer is so cool (and I suspect inoffensive to the average man in the street) and yet manages to combine the classic 911 look of yesteryear with a host of up to the minute technology.
The singer stuff though, bloody hell it's just something else & if I had the means, it would be top of my list
Neil_M said:
Can we have the photos as wallpaper / desktops please?
You can have this one http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...ajprice said:
Neil_M said:
Can we have the photos as wallpaper / desktops please?
You can have this one http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...Dan
Coal miners up and down the country ache for a Utopia where Maggie was never born. They imagine their communities thriving, pubs overflowing, whippets roaming free over the dales, every chimney in the land belching clouds from the combustion of their toil and the whisper of Largo being played by a brass band just audible on the breeze. The idea consumes them. The hatred for her and what could have been if not for that woman are all that pass the time between giros.
I, however, ache for a Utopia where Porsche didn't go mass-production. Water-cooled engines were still scoffed at for their inferiority and lack of purity. Where the doors go clunk instead of clang. Where the cars would be cherished and outlive the owner. Where the dash still looks like a proper cockpit, not a formed plastic and leather cowl. Where the cars still smell like a 911, a *real* 911. Where steering feel and seat-of-your-pants intuition are more important than any driver aids.
I have one up on the miners, though, as I can actually see what could have been. To me a Singer is exactly what Porsche would be making if they hadn't gone mass-production. A beautifully engineered, bespoke, artwork of a car. Low volume, like they used to. Made to cherish forever, like they used to be. Very expensive, like they used to be. Very special cars, chosen not because they are the default, but because you had to think outside of the box. Anybody in 1995 who bought an air-cooled 993 for £65k didn't do so because they were easy to drive, good value for money, or a default option.
Sadly, for the miners, Maggie had to happen. Change had to come or the country would have gone bust under the weight of a socialist Utopia. Sadly for me, mass-production had to happen to Porsche, or it'd have gone bust under the weight of the engineering Utopia it used to be. Thank god for Singer for shining a beacon on what could have been. The miners will just have to visit Fred Dibnah's back yard.
I, however, ache for a Utopia where Porsche didn't go mass-production. Water-cooled engines were still scoffed at for their inferiority and lack of purity. Where the doors go clunk instead of clang. Where the cars would be cherished and outlive the owner. Where the dash still looks like a proper cockpit, not a formed plastic and leather cowl. Where the cars still smell like a 911, a *real* 911. Where steering feel and seat-of-your-pants intuition are more important than any driver aids.
I have one up on the miners, though, as I can actually see what could have been. To me a Singer is exactly what Porsche would be making if they hadn't gone mass-production. A beautifully engineered, bespoke, artwork of a car. Low volume, like they used to. Made to cherish forever, like they used to be. Very expensive, like they used to be. Very special cars, chosen not because they are the default, but because you had to think outside of the box. Anybody in 1995 who bought an air-cooled 993 for £65k didn't do so because they were easy to drive, good value for money, or a default option.
Sadly, for the miners, Maggie had to happen. Change had to come or the country would have gone bust under the weight of a socialist Utopia. Sadly for me, mass-production had to happen to Porsche, or it'd have gone bust under the weight of the engineering Utopia it used to be. Thank god for Singer for shining a beacon on what could have been. The miners will just have to visit Fred Dibnah's back yard.
Beefmeister said:
IMO the Singer is the only car that also captures the obsession-level detailing of a Zonda....
I was actually just thinking that. My only reservation might be, are these too beautiful to actually run hard and use all the time? Clearly it would be rude not to, but the sums of money involved are eye watering. I really think I'd need two, just to keep one perfect to look at as art. In contrast I think a Magnus 911 could be thrashed daily with zero levels of guilt. In fact it may even look better with the extra wear and tear and odd battle scar, simply adding to its character. Rather like the look you get on old hot rods that have spent a lifetime on the salt. A far cooler version of VWs rat look, if you like.
Davey S2 said:
As something to own, keep and drive for years I'd much rather one of these than a 918, P1 or La Ferrari.
I absolutely agree. Forgetting numbers and lap times. These are mobile art works. Stunning in every way and timeless. They will be as cool in a hundred years time. The absolute polar opposite of buying a footballers chariot (as good as they may be).woof said:
Oddly I think the Singer Porsche is a step too far away from the original for me.
I came across this chap yesterday. Magnus Walker. I love what he does. Not so refined but uber cool.
Warning... You'll lose 30mins of your day watching this video.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/19/watch-the-entir...
Like his cars or not (I personally don't like the touches he adds), watching that video, the one thing that comes across to me is how narcissistic the guy is. Maybe that's why he has been able to cultivate a following, as asked earlier.I came across this chap yesterday. Magnus Walker. I love what he does. Not so refined but uber cool.
Warning... You'll lose 30mins of your day watching this video.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/19/watch-the-entir...
I'll be honest, I don't even notice 911's normally, they just don't interest me at all... but the ethos of the Singer is Very attractive- mostly because (IMVHO) it is far more aesthetically pleasing than a recent 911. As an engineer the idea that someone has raided all the best bits then bought them together with great care strikes a cord with me, just a shame its so expensive (to be honest I can understand a certain amount of premium but its does seem about 1/3rd more expensive that it needs to be... unless they are turning every nut and bolt themselves from unobtainium)
aka_kerrly said:
JB! said:
BrewsterBear said:
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Post of the day.Those Singers are quite spectacular!
BrewsterBear said:
aka_kerrly said:
JB! said:
BrewsterBear said:
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Post of the day.Those Singers are quite spectacular!
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