RE: Senna's NSX on eBay

[Hellbound]

Dave Hedgehog said:

i have a toilet seat for sale that senna used at silverstone, yours for just 10 grand

You're forgetting, he's a legend. For people with money, that's all that matters.

Sell it for £10million.

[KarlMac]

I think his actually personal car (the black one) would be worth more. 'Car that was lent to Senna for some shameless photo ops' doesn't have the same ring to it.

[j_s14a]

Bargain compared to Paul Walkers R34.

[LuS1fer]

caraddict said:

It's not like Senna was a 15 minute celebrity...

OK. 16 minutes.
In lifetime terms, he wasn't a long term celebrity either.
It's just a hire car.

[hondansx]

leedsutd1 said:

how much was it up for sale for I would have guessed 80,k euros

Hellbound said:

This is the same car that was on sale for 55k, although the price isn't there anymore.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C400296

Looks like he thinks the effort he's put into offering some provenance will see him doubling his money, a regular Wheeler Dealer you might say. Good luck to him.

I'd rather see all four cars go back to Honda.

What he said! I enquired through C&C.

[zorba_the_greek]

Wow - Would give my left arm for that (mind you would struggle to drive it then). True bit of history and to think it could be sitting in your garage. What a bit for kit it would be too if you were to take it for a blast on a sunny day.

[405dogvan]

I think that's a looney price - the provenance is nice (provenance is EVERYTHING when looking at any valuable item) but as someone said (and a bit like that rally Escort) it's really just a hire-car/loaner and not really 'his' car.

His connection maybe makes it 10-20% more valuable and it's obviously worth something anyway as those cars are getting rarer in straight/low-mileage nick but that price - is - bonkers.

[zorba_the_greek]

j_s14a said:

Bargain compared to Paul Walkers R34.

Do you have a linky so we can all have a look?

[405dogvan]

LuS1fer said:

I've never understood the premium for a famous owner. i don't give a monkey who owned the car before.

Provenance is absolutely ESSENTIAL when you value items - I worked in fine arts auctioneering for a while and you quickly learn that it's one thing to have an item which appears original but it's another if it has history (because that backs-up the originality and adds patina to the whole experience).

Famous people owning cars doesn't always massively increase their value (Diana's Metro is the classic example I think) but anything which adds 'flavour' to an item, adds some value to it just as lots of receipts or photos etc. does.

Everyone wants an original - everyone wants a well-cared-for car - everyone wants something special - and the more documentation you have for that stuff, the more money your item is worth.

Not THIS much tho

[Davey S2]

zorba_the_greek said:

True bit of history and to think it could be sitting in your garage.

How is that a 'true bit of history'?

It's not like he won the world championship in it or died in it. It's just a car he drove a few times.

It's no more a bit of history than the underpants he had on when the picture was taken.

I expect the hose pipe he's using must be worth a few grand on the same basis.

I'm with Lusifer on this one. Other than an mildly interesting aside it doesn't add any value to the car for me.

[jamespink]

Dave Hedgehog said:

i have a toilet seat for sale that senna used at silverstone, yours for just 10 grand

I'm laughing, but without clear documentation showing Senna as owner/user, Hedgehog has a point. A trader friend of mine says "if a car has full service history, it jumps out of the glove box at you" I don't see any Senna paperwork jumping here...

[Impasse]

But they were all owned, designed and hand built by Senna, weren't they?

[LuS1fer]

I suspect that the Tourist Board in Lanzarote are now thinking of charging you to go on El Golfo beach on the basis that Raquel Welch filmed 10000 Years BC there.
It makes about as much sense...except I probably would in that case.

[P4ROT]

For that price I'd rather look for a type-r (if you could even find one now!)

[JimbobVFR]

RadQuinn said:

Prove it..?


Awesome auction. Anyone want to go halfsies?

I was just going on the article saying it was loaned to Senna for a holiday.

[horror]

Now, if the Silverstone Toilet Seat was sanctioned by the FIA as a "continuation" model we all could [almost] afford one.

[DUMBO100]

I've got a picture of Ayr Town Centre, yours for £100

[DodoRacing]

I believe it's a steal, given that Steve McQueen's 1970 911S sold for 1,375,000 USD which I suppose is at least 10-15 times what it would be worth otherwise.

http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?SaleCode=MO...

As said before, to collectors it's the history of the car more that the vehicle itself. And as we know Senna is arguably the greatest driver of all times and hero to many.

[Drclarke]

DodoRacing said:

I believe it's a steal, given that Steve McQueen's 1970 911S sold for 1,375,000 USD which I suppose is at least 10-15 times what it would be worth otherwise.

http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?SaleCode=MO...

As said before, to collectors it's the history of the car more that the vehicle itself. And as we know Senna is
arguably the greatest driver of all times and hero to many.

Yes, but that was his own car. This Honda has The provenance of for example a push bike he may of borrowed to ride down the paddock to get some new gloves from his motorhome

[DodoRacing]

Drclarke said:

Yes, but that was his own car. This Honda has The provenance of for example a push bike he may of borrowed to ride down the paddock to get some new gloves from his motorhome

Sorry, I understood he had owned it. Otherwise, you have a good point.