RE: Senna's NSX on eBay

[hondansx]

P4ROT said:

For that price I'd rather look for a type-r (if you could even find one now!)

From £70k for an early pop-up NSX-R, up to £200k for a late one. Plus import fees...

[BlimeyCharlie]

At the end of the day, the guy is asking £110,000 for it.
Good luck to him.

"If you don't ask, you don't get"

I don't think for a second he expects to get that amount for it, but how exactly do you value it? The answer is what someone is prepared to pay for it.

And it is being talked about, which always help sell anything.

[Hellbound]

BlimeyCharlie said:

And it is being talked about, which always help sell anything.

Yes, but it's being talked about in the way he probably wouldn't want it being talked about. He must have gotten a fair chunk off the asking price too so he's looking to more than double his investment.

[qureshia]

The "other one" he borrowed in Portugal was black and for sale during the summer

No bids at £47k (perhaps sold outside ebay....who knows)

Link still live here


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181192150042?ru=http%3A%...

[BlimeyCharlie]

LuS1fer said:

caraddict said:

It's not like Senna was a 15 minute celebrity...

OK. 16 minutes.
In lifetime terms, he wasn't a long term celebrity either.
It's just a hire car.

Wrong, wrong and thrice wrong.
Have you lived in a bunker for the last 40 years?
And how do you quantify "in lifetime terms, he wasn't a long term celebrity either"? That does not even make sense, does it? Read it again and it makes less sense each time.

Senna was a legend when he was alive. Not a 'celebrity'.
And 'hire car' would apply to one of 'his' F1 cars as well. Supplied by Honda. Paid to drive it by Honda (via McLaren).

This is not an Avis rent-a-box jobbie. Do you think Senna had to fill a load of forms out and have the car inspected by some 'rep' wearing a short-sleeved shirt? Or no deposit back for him?

Daft.

[BlimeyCharlie]

Hellbound said:

BlimeyCharlie said:

And it is being talked about, which always help sell anything.

Yes, but it's being talked about in the way he probably wouldn't want it being talked about. He must have gotten a fair chunk off the asking price too so he's looking to more than double his investment.

Is profit illegal? He'd be a bit of a dunderhead if he bought it for circa £55k and tried selling it for circa £35k. Has it crossed your mind that maybe, just maybe, he bought it TO MAKE MONEY?

And "All publicity is good publicity".

[anonymous-user]

hondansx said:

P4ROT said:

For that price I'd rather look for a type-r (if you could even find one now!)

From £70k for an early pop-up NSX-R, up to £200k for a late one. Plus import fees...

That is ridiculously overpriced

[Ray Luxury-Yacht]

DUMBO100 said:

I've got a picture of Ayr Town Centre, yours for £100

[Hellbound]

BlimeyCharlie said:

Hellbound said:

BlimeyCharlie said:

And it is being talked about, which always help sell anything.

Yes, but it's being talked about in the way he probably wouldn't want it being talked about. He must have gotten a fair chunk off the asking price too so he's looking to more than double his investment.

Is profit illegal? He'd be a bit of a dunderhead if he bought it for circa £55k and tried selling it for circa £35k. Has it crossed your mind that maybe, just maybe, he bought it TO MAKE MONEY?

And "All publicity is good publicity".

Profit isn't illegal, if it was I'd be out of a job. If he sells it for anything close to what he's asking for I'd be surprised. The fact remains that for much less than his asking price, you could have purchased BOTH cars just a couple of months ago. Senna hysteria has abated somewhat too. I like the audacity of the move don't get me wrong, but it's just so amateurish in its execution. In any case I'd take it off ebay and look for a buyer in Japan/China and Brazil. While the rich are sinking cash into anything and everything that isn't a bank, £110k is a paltry sum for such activities. Bizarrely it would be easier to sell it if was worth a couple of million - straight to Sotheby's!

[caraddict]

St John Smythe said:

hondansx said:

P4ROT said:

For that price I'd rather look for a type-r (if you could even find one now!)

From £70k for an early pop-up NSX-R, up to £200k for a late one. Plus import fees...

That is ridiculously overpriced

Is that really what they are going for these days!?

[greggy50]

qureshia said:

The "other one" he borrowed in Portugal was black and for sale during the summer

No bids at £47k (perhaps sold outside ebay....who knows)

Link still live here


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181192150042?ru=http%3A%...

This one still has his footprint in the carpet though...

[R36vw]

Ha ha.......a fool is departed as they say.
Grossly overpriced. And. that is not just my opinion as shown before. Like anything ...market dictates and only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Even a Senna fan would baulk at this price and it's nearly 4 times the price of others for sale. To put into perspective, a ferrari 348 was for sale at 28k earlier this year formally owned by Nigel Mansell. As a Brit long term, looking back to moss, hill, hunt, coulthard for example surely a Brit car long term would have more provenance? Good luck to the seller...

[Dave Hedgehog]

Ecurie Ecosse said:

This is a special case as Senna is part of the NSX legend and this one was driven by him.

Watch out, though, as the NSX can be a bit twitchy:

http://youtu.be/88QT5JD46NE

Tiff and a few other skilled drivers have stuffed them

http://www.topgear.com/uk/jeremy-clarkson/clarkson...

[Derek Chevalier]

leedsutd1 said:

Leithen said:

Didn't he get done speeding in a NSX in the UK?

I wonder where that car has ended up? No better documentary proof of usage...

I remember a jurno being in a NSX being driven to the british gp for quali and senna was doing "very high speeds" ,the jurno said the NSX only just got there it was coughing and spluttering with punishment

How would he make the engine cough and splutter?

[Hellbound]

Dave Hedgehog said:

Ecurie Ecosse said:

This is a special case as Senna is part of the NSX legend and this one was driven by him.

Watch out, though, as the NSX can be a bit twitchy:

http://youtu.be/88QT5JD46NE

Tiff and a few other skilled drivers have stuffed them

http://www.topgear.com/uk/jeremy-clarkson/clarkson...

I don't actually mind it being a bit twitchy. The one thing that does bother me is the alu chassis. Once you bend it, it's game over.

[Hampie42]

http://www.holmeshill.com/find-us.htm

[LuS1fer]

BlimeyCharlie said:

Senna was a legend when he was alive. Not a 'celebrity'.
And 'hire car' would apply to one of 'his' F1 cars as well. Supplied by Honda. Paid to drive it by Honda (via McLaren).

This is not an Avis rent-a-box jobbie. Do you think Senna had to fill a load of forms out and have the car inspected by some 'rep' wearing a short-sleeved shirt? Or no deposit back for him?

Daft.

To you, maybe.
To me, just another in a long list of talented racing drivers.
People like Fangio and Jim Clark have far more appeal to me - proper drivers in real cars with balls of steel.
Then again, I've never really understood the appeal of F1 - even people like Michael Schumacher come and fade and I@m sure that had he died, he would now be some sort of automotive god.
Rather like rock stars who dies at the peak of their careers, the star doesn't fade.
However, you are entitled to your opinion.
I understand his Y-fronts are on ebay going cheap.

[hairyben]

I'd have thought most supercars that have spent a couple years as dealer demos would have had a fair few celebrity arsecracks rubbed against them before being flogged cheap before they're properly utterly borked wouldn't they?

[chris285]

LuS1fer said:

To you, maybe.
To me, just another in a long list of talented racing drivers.
People like Fangio and Jim Clark have far more appeal to me - proper drivers in real cars with balls of steel.
Then again, I've never really understood the appeal of F1 - even people like Michael Schumacher come and fade and I@m sure that had he died, he would now be some sort of automotive god.
Rather like rock stars who dies at the peak of their careers, the star doesn't fade.
However, you are entitled to your opinion.
I understand his Y-fronts are on ebay going cheap.

So the fact he is widely regarded as the greatest driver ever by other drivers including Schumacher doesn't count then? As for Fangio and Clark define real cars and balls of steel, they were more primitive and less safe but who is to say and judge that Senna was no less of a driver simply because the cars he drove were on the whole safer so you think they drove with less fear?

He was no saint on the racetrack and used to have accidents which he caused himself, the famous Prost first corner incident where he took him off so he made sure he won the world championship springs to mind. But at the same time he also cared about other drivers, I can't remember who it was or where but I recall him getting out of his car and running down the track to try and drag a fellow race driver out of a car risking his own life in the process. He also setup a charity in Brazil as well to help out the less fortunate.

I go back to the snippet from Top Gear a few years back, Martin Brundle said he had a god given talent he hadn't seen anywhere else. Given how long he has been around F1 since the 80's and raced against him and some of the stuff he did I would say he is not far off

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