Save the Brighton Speed Trials
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http://www.savebrightonspeedtrials.com
There's a petition here to save the Brighton Speed Trials which are now under threat of being banned by the council. They have been held since 1905 and are the world's oldest running motorsport event.
There's a petition here to save the Brighton Speed Trials which are now under threat of being banned by the council. They have been held since 1905 and are the world's oldest running motorsport event.
Is there any background to why Brighton and Hove Council are threatening the event? I found this motion on their website http://present.brighton-hove.gov.uk/Published/C000... but I guess somewhere there is a committee report on why someone somewhere thinks it should be cancelled?
In the meantime I have signed the petition.
In the meantime I have signed the petition.
Chrisgr31 said:
Is there any background to why Brighton and Hove Council are threatening the event? I found this motion on their website http://present.brighton-hove.gov.uk/Published/C000... but I guess somewhere there is a committee report on why someone somewhere thinks it should be cancelled?
In the meantime I have signed the petition.
It was cancelled this year due to a fatality last year. A motorcycle chair outfit crashed after the finish line and killed the passenger. The surface is undulating and he was braking after his run which, presumably, unsettled the rig. Once upon a time the competitors ran in twos over a kilometre. Vehicles as powerful as 1000bhp and of the ilk of Dante Duce's Mooneyes ran there until they were banned, so H&S has had its way with much of the spectacle already. This is the Greens on the city council shamelessly hijacking the death of a young woman (Charlotte Tagg RIP) who died doing what she loved. No spectators were, nor ever have been, under any threat whatsoever. More die drowning off the beach than are even hurt at the speed trials but they aren't anti-green activities. To my knowledge, and I've attended almost every year since the early sixties, three deaths have occurred in the 100 years of the event's history. I may be wrong but not by much. You're in more danger from cyclists on the pavement or from slipping over on the tons of dog dirt on teh streets than driving a car or bike in this event.In the meantime I have signed the petition.
There was a certain feeling of inevitability about this. The official line for the cancellation this year was that it was out of respect for the dead, and once the inquest was finished the event would be re-instated. The bare truth is that Brighton council hates the motorist. All motorists. They've done everything they can to run down the Speed Trials in recent years, clamping down on safety nazism, refusing to open the middle tier of the promenade due to it being "unsafe for large numbers of people"... contrary to the fact it's open to anyone and everyone the other 364 days of the year, including several Olympic events in the same period when guess what? It was used as spectator viewing areas. Sadly, like most things it's an awful lot easier to keep it running than stop and start it again,. Inertia is hard to overcome, especially when the colossal drag factor of the most whiny liberal green-obsessed car-hating council in the country is included in the maths
This is (or was) the longest-running speed trial in the world and it would be criminal to allow it to be washed away in the tide of grey averageness that already blights the 21st century. Grrrr. Angry now
This is (or was) the longest-running speed trial in the world and it would be criminal to allow it to be washed away in the tide of grey averageness that already blights the 21st century. Grrrr. Angry now
carl_w said:
IIRC Madeira drive was built for the purpose of hosting the Brighton Speed Trials, but is currently maintained by the council as any other 30mph limit road.
Or in Brighton's case 20 mph!I drove into Brighton today for some last-minute Christmas shopping. Never again.
What with their bus lanes, 20mph limits, one-way streets, blocked off streets, no right turns, no left turns (for no apparent reason) and ridiculous traffic light phasing, I have never known such a motorist unfriendly town. If you don't know your way around, ( which I don't) navigation is an absolute nightmare.
ks which will get them kicked out at the next election. Shame as I have time for much of what Caroline Lucas is about. http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/10684781.Accidental...
There is a disconnect here: has B&H been hiring out a facility that is demonstrably unfit for purpose?
If the hiring-out of the facility is profitable for B&H (after completion of the works required to bring it up to standard), then should it not continue to be hired out to enable the income to benefit the residents?
There is a disconnect here: has B&H been hiring out a facility that is demonstrably unfit for purpose?
If the hiring-out of the facility is profitable for B&H (after completion of the works required to bring it up to standard), then should it not continue to be hired out to enable the income to benefit the residents?
It's probably best to let it go and look for another venue for a new replacement event on the calender.There's not much point in holding such an event in what is now the raving PC lot's heartland considering that it's been neutered by them to the point of being irrelevant anyway.Dunsfold,for example,seems to be one of the last strongholds where fast machinery still might have a place.So maybe it would be best for the organisers to start making some enquiries about holding a replacement event where it might be made more welcome.I think the London Brighton veteran run should also start looking for a different finish point considering the irony of celebrating the freedom of car use in such a raving anti car place that Brighton has become.I'm sure the original founders of the run would support and understand the reasoning for doing so.
CanAm said:
carl_w said:
IIRC Madeira drive was built for the purpose of hosting the Brighton Speed Trials, but is currently maintained by the council as any other 30mph limit road.
Or in Brighton's case 20 mph!I drove into Brighton today for some last-minute Christmas shopping. Never again.
What with their bus lanes, 20mph limits, one-way streets, blocked off streets, no right turns, no left turns (for no apparent reason) and ridiculous traffic light phasing, I have never known such a motorist unfriendly town. If you don't know your way around, ( which I don't) navigation is an absolute nightmare.
Nik da Greek said:
There was a certain feeling of inevitability about this. The official line for the cancellation this year was that it was out of respect for the dead, and once the inquest was finished the event would be re-instated. The bare truth is that Brighton council hates the motorist. All motorists. They've done everything they can to run down the Speed Trials in recent years, clamping down on safety nazism, refusing to open the middle tier of the promenade due to it being "unsafe for large numbers of people"... contrary to the fact it's open to anyone and everyone the other 364 days of the year, including several Olympic events in the same period when guess what? It was used as spectator viewing areas. Sadly, like most things it's an awful lot easier to keep it running than stop and start it again,. Inertia is hard to overcome, especially when the colossal drag factor of the most whiny liberal green-obsessed car-hating council in the country is included in the maths
This is (or was) the longest-running speed trial in the world and it would be criminal to allow it to be washed away in the tide of grey averageness that already blights the 21st century. Grrrr. Angry now
Where's the sense in effectively trying to support a similar idea as arranging a hog roast in Mecca.lol This is (or was) the longest-running speed trial in the world and it would be criminal to allow it to be washed away in the tide of grey averageness that already blights the 21st century. Grrrr. Angry now
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