What was the first 'hyper car'?

What was the first 'hyper car'?

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Lordbenny

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Monday 30th December 2013
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FreeDrinkSpotter said:
Used in 1927 as I posted earlier --------
Yes, thanks for that....point taken but I'm after the journalistic use of the phrase rather than the use of 'hyper' in a car's name.

Riley Blue

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227 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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heebeegeetee said:
It's either the Macca F1, or the Miura, or the Merc Gullwing, or even the Merc SLR though strictly speaking that was a competition car only, or the Bugatti T35 which was possibly the last car that could genuinely be driven to the race track and then take part in a genuine Grand Prix. smile
In the 1930s cars were routinely driven from the UK to Le Mans, raced for 24hrs and driven back again.

heebeegeetee

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249 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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Riley Blue said:
In the 1930s cars were routinely driven from the UK to Le Mans, raced for 24hrs and driven back again.
They were, and indeed I think Jag still did in the 1950's.

I wanted to make the point though that the T35 makes a decent vintage (pedantic mode off smile) road car which took part in what we now regard as the pinnacle of motor sports, ie Grands prix. smile

huffysteve

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Lordbenny

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Monday 30th December 2013
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huffysteve said:
wow! thanks for that....well I suppose Clarkson was responsible for the phrase so let's let the F1 have it after all. I can't imagine a more deserved car to have the title of the first hyper car than the greatest car ever made.

DanielSan

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168 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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Ford GT40 surely? First road car to hit 200mph.

Nedzilla

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175 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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'A handful of cars that can crack 200mph,lets call them hypercars'?

Hardly qualification these days.....

huffysteve

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Monday 30th December 2013
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Lordbenny said:
wow! thanks for that....well I suppose Clarkson was responsible for the phrase so let's let the F1 have it after all. I can't imagine a more deserved car to have the title of the first hyper car than the greatest car ever made.
I had that video as a kid, so to me it was Clarkson who first used the hypercar term.

Northernchimp

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133 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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Porsche 959 fits the basic requirements and pre dates most of the stuff mentioned so far.

Lordbenny

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Monday 30th December 2013
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Northernchimp said:
Porsche 959 fits the basic requirements and pre dates most of the stuff mentioned so far.
The F1 will always win, let's face it it was the original hypercar.

rehab71

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Monday 30th December 2013
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kambites

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Monday 30th December 2013
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DanielSan said:
Ford GT40 surely? First road car to hit 200mph.
It was also the first car mentioned by name in that video posted above, so it probably wins. smile

Lordbenny

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Monday 30th December 2013
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kambites said:
It was also the first car mentioned by name in that video posted above, so it probably wins. smile
But as Clarkson said 'it was built for the track' the F1 was built for the road and hyper cars are road cars only. Also there weren't enough GT40s built so they don't count. wink

kambites

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Monday 30th December 2013
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Lordbenny said:
kambites said:
It was also the first car mentioned by name in that video posted above, so it probably wins. smile
But as Clarkson said 'it was built for the track' the F1 was built for the road and hyper cars are road cars only. Also there weren't enough GT40s built so they don't count. wink
The Mclaren isn't a "road car only"; it started out as one but it was raced very successfully.

You appear to be desperately trying to form a definition that gives you answer you want. hehe

lincsls2

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Monday 30th December 2013
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Exige77 said:
Mclaren F1 was the first IMHO
I agree.

Lordbenny

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Monday 30th December 2013
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kambites said:
The Mclaren isn't a "road car only"; it started out as one but it was raced very successfully.

You appear to be desperately trying to form a definition that gives you answer you want. hehe
No, I really don't care but the McLaren was originally built for the road then campaigned as a race car. The GT40 was built as a race car. I was originally trying to find which modern day (80's/90's) car was the first hypercar. We're really not talking about 60's cars here.

In the video Clarkson states that the F1 was the first anyway so unless anyone can show some text or video that states otherwise the F1 has it. As far as I'm concerned I'd have an F40 over an F1 but that's just my opinion.

Supernova190188

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Monday 30th December 2013
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huffysteve said:
Lordbenny said:
wow! thanks for that....well I suppose Clarkson was responsible for the phrase so let's let the F1 have it after all. I can't imagine a more deserved car to have the title of the first hyper car than the greatest car ever made.
I had that video as a kid, so to me it was Clarkson who first used the hypercar term.
Exactly the same for me , been looking for a clip of this, probably still got it on video somewhere!

kambites

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Monday 30th December 2013
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Lordbenny said:
In the video Clarkson states that the F1 was the first anyway so unless anyone can show some text or video that states otherwise the F1 has it. As far as I'm concerned I'd have an F40 over an F1 but that's just my opinion.
Does he? I didn't see that bit.

It's a bit of a moot point anyway. It will never sound like anything other than a word made up by a seven year-old playing "my dad has a better car than yours" in the playground. hehe

P1H

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Monday 30th December 2013
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This is entirely off topic and I know top speed isn't important, but can anyone explain why the P1 can't accelerate the way it does, handle the way it does, bake the way it does, but also crack 240mph?

I just feel that it should.....





kambites

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Monday 30th December 2013
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P1H said:
This is entirely off topic and I know top speed isn't important, but can anyone explain why the P1 can't accelerate the way it does, handle the way it does, bake the way it does, but also crack 240mph?

I just feel that it should.....
It probably would without the limiter. I suspect the tyres they've chosen to use aren't good for over 220 or whatever it's limited to.