Real world mpg of 2 litre petrol turbos

[V8RX7]

Shurv said:

Steer clear of petrol turbo's, best bet is a 6 cylinder petrol. A 3 series 3.0 petrol is a truly lovely engine. Plenty of MPG and the sweetest in line 6 sounds ever.

Strange that today I have bought a 200SX to replace my dull as ditch water 330 that I get 21mpg from (no it isn't broken, nor fast, nor sweet).

[T16OLE]

Buggerlugz said:

Mazda 6 MPS 2.3 litre turbo

250 miles per £75.00 tank mixture of town and busy dual carriageway driving

350 miles per £75.00 tank long distance motorway cruise

I do better than that in a 645ci

[Laser Sag]

V88Dicky said:

Running costs

Urban mpg 27.2 mpg
CO2 rating (g/km) 169 g/km
Extra Urban mpg 52.3 mpg
Average mpg 39.2 mpg

Performance

Engine power 306 bhp Engine size 2979 cc
Acceleration (0-62mph) 5.2 seconds Top speed 155 mph
Wheel drive Rear Wheel Drive


^^^^^^^
Why have 2 litres and four pots when you can have two extra cylinders and 1000cc extra?

Above are the figures for a current BMW 335i

Highly impressive, nay witchcraft.

Over all the cars I have had I have found that the quoted urban figure is what I usually get as an average, the current quoted figures are further out than they even used to be as manufacturers set up cars to do well on the automated test procedure.

Current Leon FR 2.0 turbo petrol with the DSG on a mix of single carriagway A road, bit of dual carriagway and some town work is averaging 29 MPG. It gets driven quite hard at times but not stupidly so. Have found that trying to take it easy, which seems a bit stupid having purchased it as reasonably quick daily drive, only adds about 2 or 3 MPG so really not worth the effort.

[jwo]

Audi A4 2.0T petrol Quattro (2013 - updated engine) 26mpg short journeys around town, mixed 30mpg - 2500miles across Europe long motorway runs between 70 and 130mph - ave 80ish 32mpg.

[Buggerlugz]

T16OLE said:

Buggerlugz said:

Mazda 6 MPS 2.3 litre turbo

250 miles per £75.00 tank mixture of town and busy dual carriageway driving

350 miles per £75.00 tank long distance motorway cruise

I do better than that in a 645ci

The MPS cost 7 grand when 4 year old and I can get it off the drive when it snows

[cerb4.5lee]

V8RX7 said:

Shurv said:

Steer clear of petrol turbo's, best bet is a 6 cylinder petrol. A 3 series 3.0 petrol is a truly lovely engine. Plenty of MPG and the sweetest in line 6 sounds ever.

Strange that today I have bought a 200SX to replace my dull as ditch water 330 that I get 21mpg from (no it isn't broken, nor fast, nor sweet).

I understand what you are saying as I currently have a E90 330i & my old S14a 200sx was a million miles more exciting to drive & still to this day has been the best car I have owned, I love the fact that the 200sx is only happy when it's going sideways...they are great fun, enjoy.

I think a 330i is good at what it does but being exciting to drive isn't one of them.

[V8RX7]

cerb4.5lee said:

I think a 330i is good at what it does but being exciting to drive isn't one of them.

You have summed up the problem with the car industry in a sentence.

The vast majority of cars are simply white goods and the vast majority of the public & press seem to think that's acceptable.

It's a 3 litre RWD "Sport" - exciting to drive, should be the No.1 target

[EddieFelson]

Hmm so 28mpg in my 5 litre 400bhp V8 isn't as bad as I thought!

(Note that's trip MPG and I'll happily live in ignorance)

Although in fairness I send a lot of time driving in 50 average speed camera motorway sections. I'm sure on day they will finish the improvements to the M6

[swansea v6]

I used to average 27-28 mpg is my Saab 9-3 convertible (2.0 180bhp) and now I average 25mpg in my 3.0 v6 jaguar x-type. Mpg is similar but fk me its nice having a chassis again.

[kinghottinger]

SSBB said:

I think the XF is a 3 or 5 litre supercharged, you won't get a 2 litre.

They do the 2.0Ti 240hp JLR four pot in the XF and XJ, but possibly not in the UK market.

[MidnightXR6]

Join the white goods brigade and buy a BMW Or Audi as it seems all other cars are rubbisb on here.

what has this site become.

[cerb4.5lee]

V8RX7 said:

cerb4.5lee said:

I think a 330i is good at what it does but being exciting to drive isn't one of them.

You have summed up the problem with the car industry in a sentence.

The vast majority of cars are simply white goods and the vast majority of the public & press seem to think that's acceptable.

It's a 3 litre RWD "Sport" - exciting to drive, should be the No.1 target

Agree totally.

[HJMS123]

R26Chris said:

Megane R26. Circa 26mpg mainly short journeys. Upto 38mpg at 70mph on a long cruise. I think the most I've managed is 380 miles to a tank (45l)

I average 26-7 mpg also in my R26, mainly short town journeys again though, would expect mid 30's on a long run

[Afromonk]

cerb4.5lee said:

V8RX7 said:

cerb4.5lee said:

I think a 330i is good at what it does but being exciting to drive isn't one of them.

You have summed up the problem with the car industry in a sentence.

The vast majority of cars are simply white goods and the vast majority of the public & press seem to think that's acceptable.

It's a 3 litre RWD "Sport" - exciting to drive, should be the No.1 target

Agree totally.

In these sort of threads this sort of opinion inevitably comes up.
But I feel we do have to remember that "fun" or "exciting" are purely subjective feelings when in a car and as such it can be hard for companies to correctly produce a car that meets everyones fun criteria.

Some people derive their pleasure from speed, some from drifting, others from extreme grip through corners and some just like the sound and feel and as always its comparative to what you have been in before.

That said my E46 330i is a much more "exciting drive" than all my previous cars and the majority of my mates motors (corsas, passats and diesel A3s etc.
However the most "exciting" car I have been in is an old British Leyland Mini clubman estate with a 1.3 Metro engine in it.

[Pixelpeep]

2.0 Turbo Astra VXR (old shape)

can get between 15-48mpg depending on road and driving.

round town its now averaging 22-25mpg and if you can find the sweet spot between Miss daisy and a getaway driver on a motorway you can get 38-40mpg at a reasonable motorway cruise.

[Dapster]

10 plate S-MAX 2.0 Ecoboost, 203bhp, 6 speed powershift DSG. Around town, very low 20's. Long m'way cruise at good but not silly speeds, mid 30's. 1,000 holiday miles with family of 5, loaded to the roof and a roofbox, 28 point something (all figs off the computer).

Same engine and box in a Mondeo would work well - it has to work quite hard in an S-MAX, it's a big old bus.

Edited by Dapster on Monday 6th January 12:00

[croyde]

Buggerlugz said:

Mazda 6 MPS 2.3 litre turbo

250 miles per £75.00 tank mixture of town and busy dual carriageway driving

350 miles per £75.00 tank long distance motorway cruise

Blimey! I thought these modern cars would do better than that. I have an old '98 E36 with a 2.5 N/A engine and my figures are about the same, except the 250 per tank would be for city driving/short hops only.

[otolith]

croyde said:

Buggerlugz said:

Mazda 6 MPS 2.3 litre turbo

250 miles per £75.00 tank mixture of town and busy dual carriageway driving

350 miles per £75.00 tank long distance motorway cruise

Blimey! I thought these modern cars would do better than that. I have an old '98 E36 with a 2.5 N/A engine and my figures are about the same, except the 250 per tank would be for city driving/short hops only.

But the BMW is, what, 2.5 litres, 195ps, dragging 1295kg via the rear wheels. The Mazda is only slightly smaller capacity, makes an extra 65ps and hauls an extra 370kg to about via a four wheel drive transmission.

Similar fuel consumption despite approximately 30% more weight and power.

[croyde]

My bad Should have read past the "6". I presume that the MPS is a people carrier.

ETA Oh it's a 4wd version of the saloon car and being modern would be far heavier than my car

Edited by croyde on Monday 6th January 12:54

[MarkRSi]

Grubbster said:

My RS Megane 265 has averaged 26 - 27 mpg over the last 3000 miles, the vast majority is motorway commuting. I think if I eased back a bit I might scrape it above 30 mpg! A long way from the official figures from Renault!

I get about 27-28 mpg in mine, mixed rural/town/dual carriageway driving.
Longer runs sticking at a speed that won't bother plod/cameras will see about 30-31mpg.

Driving like a nun at 50mph in 6th will see about 33mpg.

In comparison, I got 35+mpg was possible in a MR2 while hooning and easily attainable in a FN2 CTR without much effort.

A bit crap tbh but the boost is fun