Winter tyres vol 2

[nickfrog]

bertie said:

To me there's more sense in buying a set of winter tyres than there is in buying a 4x4 which a lot of folks seem to do.

I agree, number of wheels driven is irrelevant when you have poor friction to start with as the compound is not the right one for the conditions. But I think most people with winter tyre experience understand that nowadays.

Edited by nickfrog on Monday 5th December 12:16

[superlightr]

PhilboSE said:

It's an interesting question.

I swapped onto my winters on the MINI last weekend. This is a set of tyres out of which I've already had 2, maybe 3, seasons. They're running on standard MINI 15" alloys and we so good in comparison to the original runflats on 16" rims that I even considered running them all year round.

However, having just swapped, it's like driving around on a couple of bars of soap. The performance has really gone off. I'm going to give them another week or two to see if they need a couple of heat cycles or something, but they feel very different indeed.

We did the same for my wifes golf - stored the winters undercover in garage. Tyres are on their 2nd winter. first full drive today this morning on yes they do feel slippery. Like you hoping they just need scrubbing back in.

[RammyMP]

bertie said:

To me there's more sense in buying a set of winter tyres than there is in buying a 4x4 which a lot of folks seem to do.

Sharing the wear over two sets for the incremental cost it incurs is negligible, and way more effective judging by how awful my old X5 was on it's summers in the snow.

It's true to say everyone's circumstances are different, personally I rather enjoy getting my hands dirty and swapping the wheels over plus the feeling I've optimised the car for the conditions.

But I've been called a spanner before, and no doubt will again....

I'm with you brother!

[blueg33]

superlightr said:

PhilboSE said:

It's an interesting question.

I swapped onto my winters on the MINI last weekend. This is a set of tyres out of which I've already had 2, maybe 3, seasons. They're running on standard MINI 15" alloys and we so good in comparison to the original runflats on 16" rims that I even considered running them all year round.

However, having just swapped, it's like driving around on a couple of bars of soap. The performance has really gone off. I'm going to give them another week or two to see if they need a couple of heat cycles or something, but they feel very different indeed.

We did the same for my wifes golf - stored the winters undercover in garage. Tyres are on their 2nd winter. first full drive today this morning on yes they do feel slippery. Like you hoping they just need scrubbing back in.

I find the winter Yoko's I have just put on after 9 months in the garage a lot less slippery than the summer tyres in this weather

[HannsG]

My M3 is still on Michelin Pilot Super Sports.

I have a set of Winters on Alloys sitting in the shed outside.

I can't be fecked changing over as there zero snow and although there is some ice the car is fine.

[blueg33]

I would rather fit them before it snows than end up having to faff around in 6 inches of snow jacking up the car and fitting wheels

[ATM]

HannsG said:

My M3 is still on Michelin Pilot Super Sports.

I have a set of Winters on Alloys sitting in the shed outside.

I can't be fecked changing over as there zero snow and although there is some ice the car is fine.

I had to put my new to me Super Sports on my 550i last week because I destroyed a front parking and then found 2 nasty looking bubbles on a rear. These winters had been on all year. As they're staggered I basically need a new front and a new rear. So I cant decide if I should go square or stay staggered.

[RicksAlfas]

Your fingers remind me of ET.

[bertie]

ATM said:

I had to put my new to me Super Sports on my 550i last week because I destroyed a front parking and then found 2 nasty looking bubbles on a rear. These winters had been on all year. As they're staggered I basically need a new front and a new rear. So I cant decide if I should go square or stay staggered.

What on earth has happened to those tyres? Bumping up kerbs?

[ATM]

bertie said:

ATM said:

I had to put my new to me Super Sports on my 550i last week because I destroyed a front parking and then found 2 nasty looking bubbles on a rear. These winters had been on all year. As they're staggered I basically need a new front and a new rear. So I cant decide if I should go square or stay staggered.

What on earth has happened to those tyres? Bumping up kerbs?

Gentlemen. I drive a large bmw with a 5 litre v8 360bhp engine. I dont just talk about driving it hard. I have the pics to prove it. Lets just say this is damage from my massive go-nads exercising their right to produce sperms.

[RicksAlfas]

ATM said:

Gentlemen. I drive a large bmw with a 5 litre v8 360bhp engine. I dont just talk about driving it hard. I have the pics to prove it. Lets just say this is damage from my massive go-nads exercising their right to produce sperms.

At least we're now getting some sensible posts on this thread.

[bertie]

ATM said:

Gentlemen. I drive a large bmw with a 5 litre v8 360bhp engine. I dont just talk about driving it hard. I have the pics to prove it. Lets just say this is damage from my massive go-nads exercising their right to produce sperms.

Driving it Hard up kerbs then?

[FiF]

bertie said:

ATM said:

Gentlemen. I drive a large bmw with a 5 litre v8 360bhp engine. I dont just talk about driving it hard. I have the pics to prove it. Lets just say this is damage from my massive go-nads exercising their right to produce sperms.

Driving it Hard up kerbs then?

Setting aside the Billy big bks claim of ATM, which may or may not be in jest, tbh I don't care, I had wondered if it could be down to straddling speed cushions. Lot of tyre failures on the inner walls due to this.

[ATM]

FiF said:

bertie said:

ATM said:

Gentlemen. I drive a large bmw with a 5 litre v8 360bhp engine. I dont just talk about driving it hard. I have the pics to prove it. Lets just say this is damage from my massive go-nads exercising their right to produce sperms.

Driving it Hard up kerbs then?

Setting aside the Billy big bks claim of ATM, which may or may not be in jest, tbh I don't care, I had wondered if it could be down to straddling speed cushions. Lot of tyre failures on the inner walls due to this.

I dont want to put aside my Billy Big Balls antics - just yet. So instead I would ask this - how would I know? I drive the car. These tyres have been on about 12 months. In that time have they touched kerbs, speed bumps and been driven by someone with massive plums - yes. In summary I dont know what caused it - and I still have massive cahooners.

[jamieduff1981]

ATM said:

FiF said:

bertie said:

ATM said:

Gentlemen. I drive a large bmw with a 5 litre v8 360bhp engine. I dont just talk about driving it hard. I have the pics to prove it. Lets just say this is damage from my massive go-nads exercising their right to produce sperms.

Driving it Hard up kerbs then?

Setting aside the Billy big bks claim of ATM, which may or may not be in jest, tbh I don't care, I had wondered if it could be down to straddling speed cushions. Lot of tyre failures on the inner walls due to this.

I dont want to put aside my Billy Big Balls antics - just yet. So instead I would ask this - how would I know? I drive the car. These tyres have been on about 12 months. In that time have they touched kerbs, speed bumps and been driven by someone with massive plums - yes. In summary I dont know what caused it - and I still have massive cahooners.

Given it's the inside sidewalls and not the outside sidewalls, it would need some bizarre kerb mounting to achieve and a lot of pot holes to do both sides. Speed cushions would be my primary suspect

[SWoll]

ATM said:

FiF said:

bertie said:

ATM said:

Gentlemen. I drive a large bmw with a 5 litre v8 360bhp engine. I dont just talk about driving it hard. I have the pics to prove it. Lets just say this is damage from my massive go-nads exercising their right to produce sperms.

Driving it Hard up kerbs then?

Setting aside the Billy big bks claim of ATM, which may or may not be in jest, tbh I don't care, I had wondered if it could be down to straddling speed cushions. Lot of tyre failures on the inner walls due to this.

I dont want to put aside my Billy Big Balls antics - just yet. So instead I would ask this - how would I know? I drive the car. These tyres have been on about 12 months. In that time have they touched kerbs, speed bumps and been driven by someone with massive plums - yes. In summary I dont know what caused it - and I still have massive cahooners.

Perhaps it's due to you driving on winter tyres all year that aren't suited to hotter weather and then putting even more heat through them due to driving like a bell end?

Just a thought.

[Speed addicted]

SWoll said:

ATM said:

FiF said:

bertie said:

ATM said:

Gentlemen. I drive a large bmw with a 5 litre v8 360bhp engine. I dont just talk about driving it hard. I have the pics to prove it. Lets just say this is damage from my massive go-nads exercising their right to produce sperms.

Driving it Hard up kerbs then?

Setting aside the Billy big bks claim of ATM, which may or may not be in jest, tbh I don't care, I had wondered if it could be down to straddling speed cushions. Lot of tyre failures on the inner walls due to this.

I dont want to put aside my Billy Big Balls antics - just yet. So instead I would ask this - how would I know? I drive the car. These tyres have been on about 12 months. In that time have they touched kerbs, speed bumps and been driven by someone with massive plums - yes. In summary I dont know what caused it - and I still have massive cahooners.

Perhaps it's due to you driving on winter tyres all year that aren't suited to hotter weather and then putting even more heat through them due to driving like a bell end?

Just a thought.

Enough heat to break the steel banding inside the tyre? Thats some fairly extreme driving!
Typically this sort of damage is due to hitting sharp edges, I did it to an X5 tyre hitting a brick at the side of the road. It may well be due to potholes or speed cushions, possibly taken at BBB speeds.
My Berlingo runs winters all the time, my sister in law lives in Canada and she (along with everyone else in the area) run winters all the time, even though it hits 30 deg in summer. All with no issues outside normal wear and tear.

[bertie]

Speed addicted said:

SWoll said:

ATM said:

FiF said:

bertie said:

ATM said:

Gentlemen. I drive a large bmw with a 5 litre v8 360bhp engine. I dont just talk about driving it hard. I have the pics to prove it. Lets just say this is damage from my massive go-nads exercising their right to produce sperms.

Driving it Hard up kerbs then?

Setting aside the Billy big bks claim of ATM, which may or may not be in jest, tbh I don't care, I had wondered if it could be down to straddling speed cushions. Lot of tyre failures on the inner walls due to this.

I dont want to put aside my Billy Big Balls antics - just yet. So instead I would ask this - how would I know? I drive the car. These tyres have been on about 12 months. In that time have they touched kerbs, speed bumps and been driven by someone with massive plums - yes. In summary I dont know what caused it - and I still have massive cahooners.

Perhaps it's due to you driving on winter tyres all year that aren't suited to hotter weather and then putting even more heat through them due to driving like a bell end?

Just a thought.

Enough heat to break the steel banding inside the tyre? Thats some fairly extreme driving!
Typically this sort of damage is due to hitting sharp edges, I did it to an X5 tyre hitting a brick at the side of the road. It may well be due to potholes or speed cushions, possibly taken at BBB speeds.
My Berlingo runs winters all the time, my sister in law lives in Canada and she (along with everyone else in the area) run winters all the time, even though it hits 30 deg in summer. All with no issues outside normal wear and tear.

Maybe it's just the excess weight of you nads?

[ATM]

bertie said:

Speed addicted said:

SWoll said:

ATM said:

FiF said:

bertie said:

ATM said:

Gentlemen. I drive a large bmw with a 5 litre v8 360bhp engine. I dont just talk about driving it hard. I have the pics to prove it. Lets just say this is damage from my massive go-nads exercising their right to produce sperms.

Driving it Hard up kerbs then?

Setting aside the Billy big bks claim of ATM, which may or may not be in jest, tbh I don't care, I had wondered if it could be down to straddling speed cushions. Lot of tyre failures on the inner walls due to this.

I dont want to put aside my Billy Big Balls antics - just yet. So instead I would ask this - how would I know? I drive the car. These tyres have been on about 12 months. In that time have they touched kerbs, speed bumps and been driven by someone with massive plums - yes. In summary I dont know what caused it - and I still have massive cahooners.

Perhaps it's due to you driving on winter tyres all year that aren't suited to hotter weather and then putting even more heat through them due to driving like a bell end?

Just a thought.

Enough heat to break the steel banding inside the tyre? Thats some fairly extreme driving!
Typically this sort of damage is due to hitting sharp edges, I did it to an X5 tyre hitting a brick at the side of the road. It may well be due to potholes or speed cushions, possibly taken at BBB speeds.
My Berlingo runs winters all the time, my sister in law lives in Canada and she (along with everyone else in the area) run winters all the time, even though it hits 30 deg in summer. All with no issues outside normal wear and tear.

Maybe it's just the excess weight of you nads?

I keep forgetting to empty them regularly.

[jon-]

Where I live in North Herts, for my driving pattern, it's questionable whether winter tyres or summer tyres would have the overall edge so far this winter.

We need some snow, and fast.