Winter tyres vol 2
Discussion
McWigglebum4th said:
SkepticSteve said:
OK who said winter was ovver?? 
Friday evening drove home from work in first a hail storm, which then turned into a sleet storm!
North Hampshire to Surrey and to say my summer tyres were "skitish" is an under statement.
This morning -2 on the way in to work and bits of black ice.
We have just had another hail storm here in Alton Hants!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-26678026Friday evening drove home from work in first a hail storm, which then turned into a sleet storm!
North Hampshire to Surrey and to say my summer tyres were "skitish" is an under statement.
This morning -2 on the way in to work and bits of black ice.
We have just had another hail storm here in Alton Hants!!
Gritter lorries out tonight in S.oxfordshire/west berkshire. Has been 2 degrees or less for the last few nights, and was only 3 degrees at 8am this morning when i went out.
I'm just shopping around for 4 new summer tyres online but the winters (Nokian) can stay on for a few weeks yet.
I'm just shopping around for 4 new summer tyres online but the winters (Nokian) can stay on for a few weeks yet.
SkepticSteve said:
OK who said winter was ovver??
Friday evening drove home from work in first a hail storm, which then turned into a sleet storm!
North Hampshire to Surrey and to say my summer tyres were "skitish" is an under statement.
This morning -2 on the way in to work and bits of black ice.
We have just had another hail storm here in Alton Hants!!
I'm sorry but for summer tyres to have been skittish they are either seriously faulty or you were ragging it.Friday evening drove home from work in first a hail storm, which then turned into a sleet storm!
North Hampshire to Surrey and to say my summer tyres were "skitish" is an under statement.
This morning -2 on the way in to work and bits of black ice.
We have just had another hail storm here in Alton Hants!!
My summer tyres have not been skittish all winter and I doubt that anyone's have in that area unless driving very poorly...
For those of you looking to run winters year round, this years finnish "Test World" summer tyre test included the Conti TS850 and a nordic winter tyre.
http://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2014-Test-World...
While the Conti was on par with a Chinese budget in the warmer, wet conditions, the nordic tyre was pretty much unusable.
http://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2014-Test-World...
While the Conti was on par with a Chinese budget in the warmer, wet conditions, the nordic tyre was pretty much unusable.
Edited by jon- on Monday 4th January 22:58
jon- said:
For those of you looking to run winters year round, this years finnish "Test World" summer tyre test included the Conti TS850 and a nordic winter tyre.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2014-Test-Wor...
While the Conti was on par with a Chinese budget in the warmer, wet conditions, the nordic tyre was pretty much unusable.
I wouldn't expect Nordic tyres to be very good in the summer. But what we (in the UK at least) call Winter tyres should be fine all year round for most cars. I've run them all year round with no problems or excessive wear, but I don't drive a performance car.http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2014-Test-Wor...
While the Conti was on par with a Chinese budget in the warmer, wet conditions, the nordic tyre was pretty much unusable.
Jimboka said:
SkepticSteve said:
OK who said winter was ovver??
Friday evening drove home from work in first a hail storm, which then turned into a sleet storm!
North Hampshire to Surrey and to say my summer tyres were "skitish" is an under statement.
This morning -2 on the way in to work and bits of black ice.
We have just had another hail storm here in Alton Hants!!
I'm sorry but for summer tyres to have been skittish they are either seriously faulty or you were ragging it.Friday evening drove home from work in first a hail storm, which then turned into a sleet storm!
North Hampshire to Surrey and to say my summer tyres were "skitish" is an under statement.
This morning -2 on the way in to work and bits of black ice.
We have just had another hail storm here in Alton Hants!!
My summer tyres have not been skittish all winter and I doubt that anyone's have in that area unless driving very poorly...
With a big engine over the fronts they were struggling.
A week ago we had 17-20DegC and they were excellent.
Just as my other car with winters gets a bit squirmy above 12-15DegC, so the summers get skittish below the magic 7DegC, particularly the fronts.
Which may be some of the problem in that Vred' Sessanta Ultrac are not that good at low temps compared to some newer designs(?), and probably why they are so reasonably priced.
I don't so much drive to the conditions, as drive to the limitations of the tyres; both sets.
Which may or may not be the same thing?
Swapped over from my Winters to the original wheels with run flats. God the car feels awful now. I used to feel no bumps or bangs and the car rode on a cushion of air. Now it is the opposite and the steering feels numb too.. No way I am leaving them on for long. I need to decide what to do now. Either I use go flat tyres on the 19 wheels or switch to 18 with go flats.
ATM said:
Swapped over from my Winters to the original wheels with run flats. God the car feels awful now. I used to feel no bumps or bangs and the car rode on a cushion of air. Now it is the opposite and the steering feels numb too.. No way I am leaving them on for long. I need to decide what to do now. Either I use go flat tyres on the 19 wheels or switch to 18 with go flats.
Mine are shot so I am leaving them on - 60 v 45 height. The winters are much better. Happy days :-)Should last until ... Errr... Next winter.
ATM said:
Swapped over from my Winters to the original wheels with run flats. God the car feels awful now. I used to feel no bumps or bangs and the car rode on a cushion of air. Now it is the opposite and the steering feels numb too.. No way I am leaving them on for long. I need to decide what to do now. Either I use go flat tyres on the 19 wheels or switch to 18 with go flats.
Runflats are usually a lot of things, but number steering?!Usually running on concrete sidewalls gives great feedback!
I swapped over a couple of weeks ago as I had the wheels off to remove the brake callipers anyway!
Back to my constant regret of putting 18" wheels on the car! 17s on a new age Impreza are where it's at.
Earlier in the thread, I was asking about all season tires as opposed to winters. I didn't like the way my winter tyres squirmed about under even moderate braking and they also behaved rather badly on wet and greasy surfaces, which is what they spend most of their time on in winter! I do have to travel over un-cleared back roads in snow, but the car is four wheel drive so getting stuck wouldn't be a concern even if I moved away from full on winter rubber.
I say 'didn't like' - past tense.
I'm down to the upper tread bar now. It's a long way over the legal depth minimum so I'm guessing it marks the point at which the tyre is no longer winter rated? Perhaps I'd be pulled up on it if I tried to take it somewhere in Europe where winter tyres are mandatory? In any case, there's still a good amount of depth and the sipings haven't disappeared at all (I had a perfectly legal set of tyres in terms of tread depth on my Shogun when I bought it - however the sipings on the blocks had totally worm through and it was LEATHAL in the wet!) so I guess they'll be fine for another winter.
With a good amount of the block depth scrubbed off, I'd say that behaviour in the wet is 100% improved! Most notably, I don't think I've triggered the ABS all winter. Previously, I was getting quite a few blips back from anything over the most moderate of braking.
Back to my constant regret of putting 18" wheels on the car! 17s on a new age Impreza are where it's at.
Earlier in the thread, I was asking about all season tires as opposed to winters. I didn't like the way my winter tyres squirmed about under even moderate braking and they also behaved rather badly on wet and greasy surfaces, which is what they spend most of their time on in winter! I do have to travel over un-cleared back roads in snow, but the car is four wheel drive so getting stuck wouldn't be a concern even if I moved away from full on winter rubber.
I say 'didn't like' - past tense.
I'm down to the upper tread bar now. It's a long way over the legal depth minimum so I'm guessing it marks the point at which the tyre is no longer winter rated? Perhaps I'd be pulled up on it if I tried to take it somewhere in Europe where winter tyres are mandatory? In any case, there's still a good amount of depth and the sipings haven't disappeared at all (I had a perfectly legal set of tyres in terms of tread depth on my Shogun when I bought it - however the sipings on the blocks had totally worm through and it was LEATHAL in the wet!) so I guess they'll be fine for another winter.
With a good amount of the block depth scrubbed off, I'd say that behaviour in the wet is 100% improved! Most notably, I don't think I've triggered the ABS all winter. Previously, I was getting quite a few blips back from anything over the most moderate of braking.
jon- said:
ATM said:
Swapped over from my Winters to the original wheels with run flats. God the car feels awful now. I used to feel no bumps or bangs and the car rode on a cushion of air. Now it is the opposite and the steering feels numb too.. No way I am leaving them on for long. I need to decide what to do now. Either I use go flat tyres on the 19 wheels or switch to 18 with go flats.
Runflats are usually a lot of things, but number steering?!Usually running on concrete sidewalls gives great feedback!
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