Winter tyres vol 2
Discussion
Considering the lack of cold weather last winter apart from where they say "It's a cold bricht nick the noo tonicht" I'm surprised PH folk are still flogging the idea that winter tyres make sense in the UK.
You're far better off swapping from summer to a rain orientated car tyre come spring or Autumn for safety, those will be of use for a long period. But rain tyres are not sexy.
For the vast majority winters are a waste of money for people who seem to want to be just in with the rubbergeeks.
You are better off, to quote the authorities, not going out, instead sitting at home with a nice brandy.
You're far better off swapping from summer to a rain orientated car tyre come spring or Autumn for safety, those will be of use for a long period. But rain tyres are not sexy.
For the vast majority winters are a waste of money for people who seem to want to be just in with the rubbergeeks.
You are better off, to quote the authorities, not going out, instead sitting at home with a nice brandy.
Gandahar said:
Considering the lack of cold weather last winter apart from where they say "It's a cold bricht nick the noo tonicht" I'm surprised PH folk are still flogging the idea that winter tyres make sense in the UK.
You're far better off swapping from summer to a rain orientated car tyre come spring or Autumn for safety, those will be of use for a long period. But rain tyres are not sexy.
For the vast majority winters are a waste of money for people who seem to want to be just in with the geek incrowd?
You are better off, to quote the authorities, not going out, instead sitting at home with a nice brandy.
Here we go again You're far better off swapping from summer to a rain orientated car tyre come spring or Autumn for safety, those will be of use for a long period. But rain tyres are not sexy.
For the vast majority winters are a waste of money for people who seem to want to be just in with the geek incrowd?
You are better off, to quote the authorities, not going out, instead sitting at home with a nice brandy.
SEAN 46 said:
Just bought these.
With a front wheel drive diesel(heavy)on narrower 195 section tyres and a quife lsd i'm looking fwd to some serious traction this winter. They will be visiting Germany and the Glen shee Ski slopes.
These are fantastic. I had them on my S2000 from November to March and they allowed me to drive quickly on cold, damp roads with no issue. Unfortunately we didn't have any snow With a front wheel drive diesel(heavy)on narrower 195 section tyres and a quife lsd i'm looking fwd to some serious traction this winter. They will be visiting Germany and the Glen shee Ski slopes.
They are sold as an all season tyre in Norway/Sweden etc. but for the UK they are perfect for our rainy and cold winters, unlike some other winter tyres that get all out of shape in the rain.
Gandahar said:
Considering the lack of cold weather last winter apart from where they say "It's a cold bricht nick the noo tonicht" I'm surprised PH folk are still flogging the idea that winter tyres make sense in the UK.
You're far better off swapping from summer to a rain orientated car tyre come spring or Autumn for safety, those will be of use for a long period. But rain tyres are not sexy.
For the vast majority winters are a waste of money for people who seem to want to be just in with the rubbergeeks.
You are better off, to quote the authorities, not going out, instead sitting at home with a nice brandy.
Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, I (we) are not part of the vast majority.You're far better off swapping from summer to a rain orientated car tyre come spring or Autumn for safety, those will be of use for a long period. But rain tyres are not sexy.
For the vast majority winters are a waste of money for people who seem to want to be just in with the rubbergeeks.
You are better off, to quote the authorities, not going out, instead sitting at home with a nice brandy.
Agree we didn't have a lot of snow or ice last winter but for the previous few winters we did and one in particular, my old Volvo 940 Estate, on Toyo Snoprox, was the only vehicle except a couple of 4WD that could actually make it home.
Gandahar said:
Considering the lack of cold weather last winter apart from where they say "It's a cold bricht nick the noo tonicht" I'm surprised PH folk are still flogging the idea that winter tyres make sense in the UK.
You're far better off swapping from summer to a rain orientated car tyre come spring or Autumn for safety, those will be of use for a long period. But rain tyres are not sexy.
For the vast majority winters are a waste of money for people who seem to want to be just in with the rubbergeeks.
You are better off, to quote the authorities, not going out, instead sitting at home with a nice brandy.
That's effectively what most winter tyres are, more aggressive tread pattern for better water dispersal with the added benefit of better performance at low temperatures. My wintercontacts are way better on standing water than my sportcontacts. You're far better off swapping from summer to a rain orientated car tyre come spring or Autumn for safety, those will be of use for a long period. But rain tyres are not sexy.
For the vast majority winters are a waste of money for people who seem to want to be just in with the rubbergeeks.
You are better off, to quote the authorities, not going out, instead sitting at home with a nice brandy.
Been working in Munich for the last year, in January I brought my WRX over. Shod it with some Nexen Winguards (a lot of cars over here had them on), did 5000 very untroubled miles (except the last 750 which was when I drove home in April to put the Summers back on in temps of 24c+ and it felt quite "twitchy").
Skyedriver said:
Following on from a couple of good comments on here, I've looked at Alpin 4 as a good winter tyre but Bridgestone A001 were recommended also as more of an all year round tyre, but looking they are only available in a 55 profile, I'm looking for 205 x 60 x R16, H rating and a 92V for a Suzuki SX4 4 GRip.
Have used Toyo Snoprox in the past and thay are great in snow but was looking for more something to leave on all year. She only does around 9k miles a year BTW.
My missus has been running Snowproxes all year round on the shopping cart, I don't think she even noticed they were winters tbh.Have used Toyo Snoprox in the past and thay are great in snow but was looking for more something to leave on all year. She only does around 9k miles a year BTW.
Gandahar said:
Considering the lack of cold weather last winter apart from where they say "It's a cold bricht nick the noo tonicht" I'm surprised PH folk are still flogging the idea that winter tyres make sense in the UK.
You're far better off swapping from summer to a rain orientated car tyre come spring or Autumn for safety, those will be of use for a long period. But rain tyres are not sexy.
For the vast majority winters are a waste of money for people who seem to want to be just in with the rubbergeeks.
You are better off, to quote the authorities, not going out, instead sitting at home with a nice brandy.
So it begins again this year.You're far better off swapping from summer to a rain orientated car tyre come spring or Autumn for safety, those will be of use for a long period. But rain tyres are not sexy.
For the vast majority winters are a waste of money for people who seem to want to be just in with the rubbergeeks.
You are better off, to quote the authorities, not going out, instead sitting at home with a nice brandy.
Now in your defence, I was mildly narked having shelled out £400 last year on a good set of winters to not see any snow at all (living in Southshire) but I can say categorically that had it snowed - like every other year for a long time back - I wouldn't have been able to get into or out of my road (in suburbia), would have struggled and quite possibly not been able to make essential journeys and I sure as hell wouldn't have been able to dodge the idiot drivers who become the majority when there's any snow on the road. And each year plenty of people post on here about how - tempting as it'd be to stay at home - for a lot of people it's not an option. I fall into that camp.
Not to mention the fact that they only actually cost you the price of a set of wheels rather than the tyres (or a few quid to swap them over each year.) Oh, and the fact that one dodged insurance excess payment pays for the tyres.
So despite the lack of white stuff last year I'm still happy that my money was well spent. Spend yours on brandy and log fires, it's no odds to me
Gandahar said:
You are better off, to quote the authorities, not going out, instead sitting at home with a nice brandy.
From a foreign perspective, that is one of the most baffling things about your country."No no no we will not prepare for winter, if winter really comes we'll just stay home" And then the whole country grinds to a halt. Not exactly ideal, is it?
Gandahar said:
Considering the lack of cold weather last winter apart from where they say "It's a cold bricht nick the noo tonicht" I'm surprised PH folk are still flogging the idea that winter tyres make sense in the UK.
You're far better off swapping from summer to a rain orientated car tyre come spring or Autumn for safety, those will be of use for a long period. But rain tyres are not sexy.
For the vast majority winters are a waste of money for people who seem to want to be just in with the rubbergeeks.
You are better off, to quote the authorities, not going out, instead sitting at home with a nice brandy.
If only winters were that predictable. You're far better off swapping from summer to a rain orientated car tyre come spring or Autumn for safety, those will be of use for a long period. But rain tyres are not sexy.
For the vast majority winters are a waste of money for people who seem to want to be just in with the rubbergeeks.
You are better off, to quote the authorities, not going out, instead sitting at home with a nice brandy.
Anyway, this has been done to death. You're happy, we're happy, stop trying to start an argument.
As said, it cost very little to change the tyres over, you are not going to throw good tyres away and if they need replacing you would have to buy new tyres anway. So the cost is negligable, given the cost of repairing/insurance excess should your grip be inedequate.
I can understand Joe Public in their ignorance not fitting them.
Having read this and other threads on the subject why would you not want the 4 things that keep your car gripping the road not to have the best grip available?
Admittedly last winter was a washout, but this was hardly the norm!
I can understand Joe Public in their ignorance not fitting them.
Having read this and other threads on the subject why would you not want the 4 things that keep your car gripping the road not to have the best grip available?
Admittedly last winter was a washout, but this was hardly the norm!
dtmpower said:
Has anyone gone for a narrower tyre on their winter set and if so, by how much ?
Look in your handbook and it will give the manufacturer's recommendation. If your car has fairly modest tyres as standard, the winters will be the same. Mine are. If you have 20" monsters with rubber bands, it will probably take you down a size or two (width and diameter). But look it up, don't just guess! That way you know they will fit over your brakes, and you shouldn't cause any aggro with your insurance company.Porsche only drop 10mm from the rear of the cayman, 265 down to 255. Any lower and you start to compromise the handling in everything but snow.
Speaking of which Porsche want £2300 for 4x alloys, 4x winter tyres, fitting and storage of summer wheels.
Sounds good value to me so I think I may go for it when the tempatures start to drop.
Speaking of which Porsche want £2300 for 4x alloys, 4x winter tyres, fitting and storage of summer wheels.
Sounds good value to me so I think I may go for it when the tempatures start to drop.
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