RE: Jaguar F-Type Coupe: Driven

RE: Jaguar F-Type Coupe: Driven

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nickfrog

21,273 posts

218 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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I didn't think affect could be used as a noun anyway in this context

Edited by nickfrog on Monday 13th January 09:56

chrisironside

672 posts

163 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Great to see Jaguar make another top-class achingly beautiful sportscar (to my mind the first time since the E-type).
Very much like.

DJRC

23,563 posts

237 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Little Lofty said:
When in Interior click on Seat to choice seat style then click Trim to choose colour, standard seats can be black,dark grey or light grey, sports seats can be all sorts of colours.
Ta lofty

Hellbound

2,500 posts

177 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Sutcliffe from Autocar on video;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmAIsIw1nB0

Mikebentley

6,144 posts

141 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Beautiful car, I hope they sell by the shed load and depreciate quickly so I have to wait less time to get one.

silverous

1,008 posts

135 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Kenny Powers said:
No. Affect is the correct word in that context.
I'm convinced that is wrong but don't want to derail the car discussion too much with a grammar one !

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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silverous said:
I'm convinced that is wrong...
Ok, but it's not biggrin

kambites

67,621 posts

222 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Kenny Powers said:
silverous said:
I'm convinced that is wrong...
Ok, but it's not biggrin
As I understand it, it should be either:

"... pieces like this have a limited effect on buying behaviour..."

or

"... pieces like this affect buying behaviour..."

As written in the article, it's wrong. Outside certain obscure scientific situations, "affect" should never be used as a noun.



This is rather off topic, though. biggrin

Edited by kambites on Monday 13th January 15:12

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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It will be interesting to compare car/style/price/performance of the V8 Jag with the latest Corvettes, due in UK imminently.

RobM77

35,349 posts

235 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Hellbound said:
Sutcliffe from Autocar on video;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmAIsIw1nB0
I watched that at lunchtime today. It looks like a great car, but I do wish they wouldn't do quite so much sideways. In this instance they couldn't do a proper on-road test, fair enough, but Steve is a really good driver and he had an empty track to play with, so am I alone in that I'd have preferred him to spend his time talking about the car's handling, controls, feedback and engine, rather than just Top Gear style sideways the whole time?

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

131 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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RobM77 said:
Hellbound said:
Sutcliffe from Autocar on video;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmAIsIw1nB0
I watched that at lunchtime today. It looks like a great car, but I do wish they wouldn't do quite so much sideways. In this instance they couldn't do a proper on-road test, fair enough, but Steve is a really good driver and he had an empty track to play with, so am I alone in that I'd have preferred him to spend his time talking about the car's handling, controls, feedback and engine, rather than just Top Gear style sideways the whole time?
Firstly the continuous portraying of sideways as equalling fast is a bad example to set to new drivers.When in fact it's just a type of fun that no one needs a 500 + bhp car for.The idea of being given a race circuit to try the car on 'should be' all about putting in some ultimate lap times compared to it's rivals not a drifting fest.

kambites

67,621 posts

222 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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The Carbon brakes are 21kg lighter than the steel ones?!? yikes

Goofnik

216 posts

141 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Art0ir said:
What has the reaction been in the States so far? Jalopnik, Jay Leno and the other usual suspects seem to have a real crush on it.
I like it, but reliability scares me away, and I wouldn't spend this kind of money unless it was a very long term car. I've known too many Jaguar owners in the past 15 years, and they've gotten a lot better, but they're still expensive to keep running. Yes, Porsche engine rebuilds are scary, but any 30 year car will see at least one rebuild -- you factor that into the ownership costs, and it's still waaaaaay cheaper than going out and spending money on yet another new one.

My biggest issue with the F-Type was its weight and width. It handles well for its size, but you still feel the weight move about. It's also about as wide as a Ferrari 458. In the mid west or western US, you wouldn't care. I live in New England, however, so our roads are much closer to that of Britain's.

I've stuck to my guns and am waiting for the Cayman GTS which should be unveiled in April (powerkit to bump to 340HP, different front/rear aero, popular options standard), with the hardcore sports suspension and carbon fiber seats, and a minimum of gizmos. I like the F-Type and am glad it exists, but I daily drive my toys. Coming from an MX-5 which always just works, I don't want to go to the other extreme. I'm in my early 30s now. I want to still be driving it in my 60s.

RobM77

35,349 posts

235 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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XJ Flyer said:
RobM77 said:
Hellbound said:
Sutcliffe from Autocar on video;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmAIsIw1nB0
I watched that at lunchtime today. It looks like a great car, but I do wish they wouldn't do quite so much sideways. In this instance they couldn't do a proper on-road test, fair enough, but Steve is a really good driver and he had an empty track to play with, so am I alone in that I'd have preferred him to spend his time talking about the car's handling, controls, feedback and engine, rather than just Top Gear style sideways the whole time?
Firstly the continuous portraying of sideways as equalling fast is a bad example to set to new drivers.When in fact it's just a type of fun that no one needs a 500 + bhp car for.The idea of being given a race circuit to try the car on 'should be' all about putting in some ultimate lap times compared to it's rivals not a drifting fest.
To be fair I think lap times are equally irrelevant in a road car, but yes, they're more interesting than driving sideways constantly smile A race track is a great opportunity to really probe a chassis and find out how a car handles and responds - that's what I'd like to see more of in road tests such as these. I realise not everyone drives fast everywhere in a road car either, but surely the car's handling is more relevant to potential owners than lap times or 'drifting'?

Grandfondo

12,241 posts

207 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Pity no manual though!

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

131 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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RobM77 said:
XJ Flyer said:
RobM77 said:
Hellbound said:
Sutcliffe from Autocar on video;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmAIsIw1nB0
I watched that at lunchtime today. It looks like a great car, but I do wish they wouldn't do quite so much sideways. In this instance they couldn't do a proper on-road test, fair enough, but Steve is a really good driver and he had an empty track to play with, so am I alone in that I'd have preferred him to spend his time talking about the car's handling, controls, feedback and engine, rather than just Top Gear style sideways the whole time?
Firstly the continuous portraying of sideways as equalling fast is a bad example to set to new drivers.When in fact it's just a type of fun that no one needs a 500 + bhp car for.The idea of being given a race circuit to try the car on 'should be' all about putting in some ultimate lap times compared to it's rivals not a drifting fest.
To be fair I think lap times are equally irrelevant in a road car, but yes, they're more interesting than driving sideways constantly smile A race track is a great opportunity to really probe a chassis and find out how a car handles and responds - that's what I'd like to see more of in road tests such as these. I realise not everyone drives fast everywhere in a road car either, but surely the car's handling is more relevant to potential owners than lap times or 'drifting'?
At this power level there's probably ( rightly ) a split away from the priority being on agility to that of acceleration based lap times.Hence the ( correct ) comments by road testers describing the V8 F type as first and foremost a brutal muscle car.It seems that Jaguar have done the job in this case with the exception of that all important manual box option.

nickfrog

21,273 posts

218 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Kenny Powers said:
silverous said:
I'm convinced that is wrong...
Ok, but it's not biggrin
It is. "Affect" as a noun makes no sense in this context.

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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I consider myself enlightened smile

It sounded right to me, but the more I read it, the more it sounds wrong. Shame on you, Chris! biggrin

Esseesse

8,969 posts

209 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Love this in black or dark grey. Not such a huge fan of the contrast in roof/rear window on lighter colours.


kambites

67,621 posts

222 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Esseesse said:
Love this in black or dark grey. Not such a huge fan of the contrast in roof/rear window on lighter colours.
Isn't that green? Or is it just the contrast with the carpet that makes it look it?