RE: Jaguar F-Type Coupe: Driven
Discussion
johnnnnnnyy said:
I’m really trying to love this car, but can’t see it being a timeless classic I only see generic style from the twenty tens era thats produced to sell numbers and not born from passion. A fashion car. There’s a current fad of over exaggerated sweeping lines, gaping air intakes, defusers, sound generated exhausts and celebrity designed interiors, all touched with the essence of a caricature design pen to please the public.
In twenty years time I feel these designs will instantly bring to the attention ‘ah this is a car from the twenty ten era’ and date very easily, in the same way the bolt on spoilers, stripes and digital dashboards hit the 80’s. These cars age very quickly, but we never thought this at the time.
Perfume ad sounding voiceover:In twenty years time I feel these designs will instantly bring to the attention ‘ah this is a car from the twenty ten era’ and date very easily, in the same way the bolt on spoilers, stripes and digital dashboards hit the 80’s. These cars age very quickly, but we never thought this at the time.
Edited by johnnnnnnyy on Sunday 12th January 11:43
I'm also not sure some modern cars with fussy lights, chintzy interiors and weird styling cues are going to age fantastically but the whole purpose of new car designs is to make the old ones look outdated and taste is dependent on buyer and market tastes. The Chinese market, which is huge now, like chintzy, flashy, shiny, expensive looking bling. Therefore if it's got a premium badge they've brought out the bling!
I think it's this reason, along with brands seeking identity in an increasingly cross-pollinated, over segmented, confused car market, that is why we get these 'fads' in car design right now.
It also doesn't help that modern car and pedestrian safety standards dictate a 'tall' profile to modern cars.
Also we live in the present not the past, and right now with my eyes I think the F-type doesn't look anything other than fantastic, especially for a modern car.
You can critique an F40 design but that doesn't mean I don't still love the way that thing looks, and I'd be hopeless as a car designer as I'd probably just draw it, quite badly, all day long. Then I'd colour it in with big felt tips and make loud engine noises when no one's around.
I think all manufacturers should just let Pininfarina design every car and have Henrik Fisker manage them.
I'm patenting that idea as the Pininfarina produced Fikser failsafe method of car desing. Don1 said:
I'm thinking that what-ever TVR are relaunching, the F Type in both guises need to be on their 'things to beat' list....
Or it could be on a list of additional reasons why our car doesn't stand a chance!Mainstream manufacturers have moved into the areas of price/performance that TVR used to occupy. Realistically TVR can't really deliver significantly increased performance because you head into the realms of diminishing returns beyond where the F-type R in. These diminishing returns will not offset the negatives associated with limited production and low development budgets.
MrTappets said:
Pretty sure Motor Trend supposedly got 3.4 out of a v8 S and were so surprised they dyno'd the car. They reckoned that if anything it was making slightly less than the 495 advertised, which certainly bodes well for the R. I mean, how much do the Turbo and Turbo S cost these days
Don't they quote the best one way time on a drag strip with one person on board.unrepentant said:
s2000db said:
550Bhp and only 4 secs to 62?
Too heavy and or lack of traction??
Jaguar have been very conservative with the 0-60 times they quote. Motor Trend got a V8S F-Type to do the dash in 3.4 so I suspect the true time for the R will be closer to 3 than 4 seconds. Too heavy and or lack of traction??
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Talksteer said:
Don1 said:
I'm thinking that what-ever TVR are relaunching, the F Type in both guises need to be on their 'things to beat' list....
Or it could be on a list of additional reasons why our car doesn't stand a chance!Mainstream manufacturers have moved into the areas of price/performance that TVR used to occupy. Realistically TVR can't really deliver significantly increased performance because you head into the realms of diminishing returns beyond where the F-type R in. These diminishing returns will not offset the negatives associated with limited production and low development budgets.
We all tolerate TVR's build quality because it gave performance per pound.
oldtimer2 said:
Your questions: "What is it about the truncated, high-arse, long-snouted coupe format that delivers so consistently?"
The answer: "It is a phallus on wheels".
1) Penises aren't pretty.The answer: "It is a phallus on wheels".
2) If yours looks like an F type coupe, or any car, you should immediately see a doctor and possibly a Channel 4 TV producer.
3) Seriously, go to a car park and have a look down the front of your pants, the differences are pretty obvious.
Goofnik said:
I like it, but reliability scares me away, and I wouldn't spend this kind of money unless it was a very long term car. I've known too many Jaguar owners in the past 15 years, and they've gotten a lot better, but they're still expensive to keep running. Yes, Porsche engine rebuilds are scary, but any 30 year car will see at least one rebuild -- you factor that into the ownership costs, and it's still waaaaaay cheaper than going out and spending money on yet another new one.
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