The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T (Vol XVI)

The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T (Vol XVI)

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LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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barchetta_boy said:
What tyres were you on?
Good question? What did they come on-I can't quite remember? Contis or pilots I think, certainly not track rubber

Crook

6,741 posts

224 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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L100NYY said:
I wonder what premium against a modern V8 Ferrari? Probably a better buy/ experience as long as you used it.

barchetta_boy

2,192 posts

232 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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It was a good mate's car that I drove, not mine, but I distinctly remember him saying the factory-supplied tyres, which were contis in his case, were terrible. He replaced them with Falken FK452 which transformed the car. YF06HLP took some serious abuse... was always maintained accordingly though. Had a lot of fun times in that car

bungle

1,874 posts

240 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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olly755 said:
I loved my VX. Used it in sun or slush, every day of the week. No car I've owned was quicker down "my road". (We all have "a road", don't we?)

Personally I'd look for a good N/A over a Turbo and pop in an LSD with the pennies saved. The iron blocked Turbo adds an unwelcome lump of weight in the wrong place compared with the featherweight, alloy blocked N/A.

Once had a rush of blood one Saturday and decided to go and swap it for a Turbo at the local dealership. Some lunatic salesman took me out in one and frightened me silly, which conversely meant I wasn't bothered about holding back when we eventually swapped seats. So between us, we spent an enjoyable half hour laying down black lines around the local industrial estate. It was too tempting to return and have a go at the same pace on the way home in my own car, when it was soon decided that the N/A was the sweeter machine: the reduction of sheer grunt was more than compensated by the lovely balance and feel of the lighter car.
Thanks, useful post re N/A vs Turbo. Stuff to think about coffee

bungle

1,874 posts

240 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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And to join the VX/Elise, I still want a 1.9 GTi:



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1992-PEUGEOT-205-1-9-GTi...

richtea78

5,574 posts

158 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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anonymous said:
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I figured him more of a chauffeur driven man myself. Understated but powerful.

Black F40 is way to showy

Jaime should have a gold F40!!!

Hitch78

6,105 posts

194 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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L100NYY said:
Black Monday story

Bullst story, beautiful car.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

249 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Crook said:
L100NYY said:
I wonder what premium against a modern V8 Ferrari? Probably a better buy/ experience as long as you used it.
More than this at £92k?

http://www.hexagonmodernclassics.com/car_sales/Por...

ATM

18,271 posts

219 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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sleep envy said:
Crook said:
L100NYY said:
I wonder what premium against a modern V8 Ferrari? Probably a better buy/ experience as long as you used it.
More than this at £92k?

http://www.hexagonmodernclassics.com/car_sales/Por...
25k isn't really comparable to 500 miles.

Output Flange

16,798 posts

211 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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olly22n said:
Why am I even searching for one of these?

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C564288#

Because you deserve a little Xmas present. And I want to have a go.

GreatPretender

26,140 posts

214 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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olly22n said:
Why am I even searching for one of these?

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C564288#

advert said:
Hi, For sale is my beloved Heidi…
Translation: Hi I'm a total wker and everyone outside my immediate family hates me. I haven't owned this car all that long, because really, I bought it on a whim and quickly realised what a fking liability I'd taken on. It has, reluctantly, had a new steering pump and a - fk me, how much!!!! - service. However, whilst the poor thing is basically falling apart around me, I don't have the funds to know where to even start with it. Hence, I'm getting all "///M nerd" on the pretence that I actually know what the fk I'm talking about and in the hope that you'll be foolish enough not to see through my pathetic sneer and buy this fking crate off me before my wife divorces me and my daughter stops calling me a pervert. Please! Look, I'll even throw in a CD player. Oh come on! I'm dying here! Help a guy out. PLEASE! Look, don't make me beg. You'll give me what for it?! Yeah right pal, pull the other one... OK its yours.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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GreatPretender said:
olly22n said:
Why am I even searching for one of these?

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C564288#

advert said:
Hi, For sale is my beloved Heidi…
Translation: Hi I'm a total wker and everyone outside my immediate family hates me. I haven't owned this car all that long, because really, I bought it on a whim and quickly realised what a fking liability I'd taken on. It has, reluctantly, had a new steering pump and a - fk me, how much!!!! - service. However, whilst the poor thing is basically falling apart around me, I don't have the funds to know where to even start with it. Hence, I'm getting all "///M nerd" on the pretence that I actually know what the fk I'm talking about and in the hope that you'll be foolish enough not to see through my pathetic sneer and buy this fking crate off me before my wife divorces me and my daughter stops calling me a pervert. Please! Look, I'll even throw in a CD player. Oh come on! I'm dying here! Help a guy out. PLEASE! Look, don't make me beg. You'll give me what for it?! Yeah right pal, pull the other one... OK its yours.
Whenever I read ads like that it's exactly the same thought that goes through my mind hehe

Joel, regarding your post on the Z4M coupe I reckon I was running contis on mine, 90% sure I think-I've tried to erase the memory after replacing a tyre when I bought the car (it had been driven on when deflated) and puncturing the bugger in less than a week!

Anyway, they may have been partly responsible for the wayward handling and I don't doubt that better options were available but I'm not convinced they were the missing link, less that a set of Falkens are the answer!

Great cars for what they are, but not that great smile

GreatPretender

26,140 posts

214 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Joel, regarding your post on the Z4M coupe I reckon I was running contis on mine, 90% sure I think-I've tried to erase the memory after replacing a tyre when I bought the car (it had been driven on when deflated) and puncturing the bugger in less than a week!

Anyway, they may have been partly responsible for the wayward handling and I don't doubt that better options were available but I'm not convinced they were the missing link, less that a set of Falkens are the answer!

Great cars for what they are, but not that great smile
I struggled with mine, as I've said before. Loved that it was new, but there have been better //M offerings, all told.

Apparently, the Contis did have a huge part to play; they were fine on the M3, but far too hard and glassy on the Zed. I nearly binned mine one occasion after it suddenly snapped away under power. TC button left untouched. like any car, they can be fettled with, but the biggest bugbear for me was the build quality. Built by the same people from the same period of time that gave us the first Merc M Class; the Zed always felt like a budget car with a sodding great engine in it.

Looked the part, right enough.



Edited by GreatPretender on Sunday 14th December 17:52

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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GreatPretender said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Joel, regarding your post on the Z4M coupe I reckon I was running contis on mine, 90% sure I think-I've tried to erase the memory after replacing a tyre when I bought the car (it had been driven on when deflated) and puncturing the bugger in less than a week!

Anyway, they may have been partly responsible for the wayward handling and I don't doubt that better options were available but I'm not convinced they were the missing link, less that a set of Falkens are the answer!

Great cars for what they are, but not that great smile
I struggled with mine, as I've said before. Loved that it was new, but there have been better //M offerings, all told.

Apparently, the Contis did have a huge part to play; they were fine on the M3, but far too hard and glassy on the Zed. I nearly binned mine one occasion after it suddenly snapped away under power. TC button left untouched. like any car, they can be fettled with, but the biggest bugbear for me was the build quality. Built by the same people from the same period of time that gave us the first Merc M Class; the Zed always felt like a budget car with a sodding great engine in it.

Looked the part, right enough.



Edited by GreatPretender on Sunday 14th December 17:52
Well I'm more than happy enough to be proved wrong thumbup but I still feel it was the rear suspension that let the show down.

Two weird things, first at oulton park going into the first corner, there's a weird little dip that the Z hated-it's never been an issue in any car before or since. The back end would bloody skip under breaking (in a straight line!), the diff would lock and the gear change would balk. Solution was to switch TC off for that bit and then turn it back on for the rest of the lap.

Other bit was pflantzgarten 2 at the ring. My favourite stretch of Tarmac in the known universe. Every car I driven there, every single one, it's put it into fifth gear at the top and floor the throttle all the way down, don't back off, don't lift and laugh at your passenger stting themselves hehe

I took my mate for a lap in the Z, now we've done hundreds and hundreds of laps together including lots in his GTR, but even he was worried by the amount of movement the Z created going over the jump. "Moves around a bit doesn't it?" was his utterance after the first go!

Edited to add gratuitous pron;


That back end, the roofline, the swage line that goes from headlamp to tail light cloud9

Edited by LaurasOtherHalf on Sunday 14th December 18:42


Edited by LaurasOtherHalf on Sunday 14th December 19:46

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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contango said:
A bit harsh, it looks good to me as swage lines go smile
rofl oops edited-that was unintended!

0a

23,900 posts

194 months

tdm34

7,366 posts

210 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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olly22n said:
yeah yeah, this might be a good one.
We've all been saying this for years, go on the who's got the brave pills then........ wink

Gruber

6,313 posts

214 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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braddo

10,442 posts

188 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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olly22n said:
Why am I even searching for one of these?

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C564288#

fking hell, I couldn't consider that car for more than a few seconds. The tt giving the car a name and referring to it as 'she' means I can't even read the advert; from memory shouldn't a '91 car be on turbines; two-tone interior is also a no-no for me (I've lived with a two-tone for over 4 years now, I can't do it again. hehe ).

Or to quote GP succinctly, "NO."

When are you going to see it, Olly?

jamoor

14,506 posts

215 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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braddo said:
fking hell, I couldn't consider that car for more than a few seconds. The tt giving the car a name and referring to it as 'she' means I can't even read the advert; from memory shouldn't a '91 car be on turbines; two-tone interior is also a no-no for me (I've lived with a two-tone for over 4 years now, I can't do it again. hehe ).

Or to quote GP succinctly, "NO."

When are you going to see it, Olly?
Probably doesn't work for BMW.
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