Do you still use a crooklock.

Do you still use a crooklock.

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GadgeS3C

4,516 posts

165 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2014
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trashbat said:
It's all different now isn't it, with the rappers, hanging around outside the supermarkets, and even those aren't like they used to be, back when it was the Safeway and the Kwik Save, because now it's the Netto and the Sainsburys isn't it, and I tell you what, it's not like it was before it changed, no, because you could go down to the shops in your Vauxhall Nova and the worst that would happen when you left it is it would be burnt down to the ground by a yobbo, fair and square it was, you knew where you stood, but oh no not anymore now it's all on the Twitter, because they won't bother with that any more will they, they'll remap the throttle response using OBD-II over Bluetooth won't they, the N-Dubz, and it's all like that now, and you can't even throw a toaster into a gay man's bath any more because of the Muslims.
hehe


996TT02

3,308 posts

141 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2014
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I used to chain my resto projects to the road outside my house - literally to the road via a U thing I'd set into the tarmac and a heavy chain round the rear axle yikes

Dave Hedgehog

14,568 posts

205 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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SeanyD said:
Fishtigua said:
I used a handbrake lock when in the South of France, less hassle than a crooklock.



No one, but no one tried to nick my 1986 Astra 1300. biggrin
I have one of these for the Elise, for when I feel brave enough to park with the roof off.

No idea how effective it is against a hardened car thief, but at least it stops humorous colleagues being able to put the car in neutral, take the hand brake off, and push it around the corner for a laugh.
unscrew gear knob, pull off device, drive away, a good 30 seconds of protection

Krikkit

26,535 posts

182 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Super Slo Mo said:
Krikkit said:
Billyray911 said:
Zelda Pinwheel said:
I used to have a pedal lock that hooked under the brake pedal and over the steering wheel, used it on my MG Midget. Very solid stuff with a massive lock. I never had a problem with it, although probably 'cos nobody wanted to pinch the manky thing anyway.

On the Landrovers, we use these, which are great, and also mean that in theory they can't be pushed or towed, as it presses on the brake pedal as well.


http://foundry4x4.co.uk/index.php?route=product/pr...
What a great idea,especially with all the keyless thefts of Landrovers at the moment.Ive a BMW,so we have the same issue and use a disclock at all times.Takes less than five seconds to put into place and if it puts someone off,I'm happy.
Seems like a good idea in principle, but it wouldn't stop them making off with it imo - snip a brake line to release the brake pressure (especially easy on a Landy), release the handbrake lever and she's rolling.
Not quite that simple, you'd need to snip more than one brake line as they have multiple circuits, including the rear circuit, which might be a little more tricky to get access to.
Once you've snipped one the pedal will drop quite a long way, more than the security device can push it, leaving you with no braking effect. Must admit though, the defender approach of having a F+R brake circuit setup is a little disconcerting, I'd much rather have opposite corners!

jones325i

755 posts

154 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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dtiom said:
I used a disklock on my 2006 E60 530 because of the piss-poor BMW alarm system. Sold the car after 12 months ownership and the disklock now lives in the shed, I'll probably never use it again.

People used to question why I used a disklock, once I explained about the alarm issues they were quite shocked.
Would you mind explaining a bit about it now?


jdwoodbury said:
Zelda Pinwheel said:
I used to have a pedal lock that hooked under the brake pedal and over the steering wheel, used it on my MG Midget. Very solid stuff with a massive lock. I never had a problem with it, although probably 'cos nobody wanted to pinch the manky thing anyway.

On the Landrovers, we use these, which are great, and also mean that in theory they can't be pushed or towed, as it presses on the brake pedal as well.


http://foundry4x4.co.uk/index.php?route=product/pr...
Our Defender has one of these but I must admit the frame annoys me while driving as it interferes with your feet.
Sounds like a recipe for horrific lower leg injury during a crash...

Edited by jones325i on Thursday 23 January 10:12

Chris71

21,536 posts

243 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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I used to have a crooklock type thing on the gear lever of my Quantum. What I never mentioned to anyone was that the gear knob would lift straight off and it was there purely as a deterrent (or to stop particularly stupid thieves).

Funnily enough, I saw a car fitted with one the other day for the first time in ages, and I found it just drew my attention to a car I would have otherwise walked straight past. I wonder if it has the same lure to less desirable members of the community?

dtiom

245 posts

140 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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jones325i said:
Would you mind explaining a bit about it now?


http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

In summary, you can drop the windows and program a key through the OBD, hop in and drive away without the alarm sounding. Many stolen frown

jones325i

755 posts

154 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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dtiom said:
jones325i said:
Would you mind explaining a bit about it now?


http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

In summary, you can drop the windows and program a key through the OBD, hop in and drive away without the alarm sounding. Many stolen frown
Oh, that. I thought maybe this was some other issue with the alarm itself.

Cheers.

DaveCWK

1,995 posts

175 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Apart from certain expertly engineered executive german models, I don't think cars are stolen without the keys much these days.

Super Slo Mo

5,368 posts

199 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Krikkit said:
Once you've snipped one the pedal will drop quite a long way, more than the security device can push it, leaving you with no braking effect. Must admit though, the defender approach of having a F+R brake circuit setup is a little disconcerting, I'd much rather have opposite corners!
Indeed, would make a rapid stop somewhat disconcerting if you lose the front circuit. The Disco has the same setup, presumably Classic RR's do too.

JohnoVR6

690 posts

213 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Never used a crooklock. My sister bought one for her first car, a 1.1i Saxo, laugh I think it was worth more than the car at the time!

I'll be fitting one of these to my Impreza when it turns up;



Job done...until they break in for the keys!

Paul Lloyd

43 posts

124 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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+1 for handbrake lock. Tried a few different crooklocks and they just never seemed safe enough.

JagXJR

1,261 posts

130 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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The Nur said:
rofl

On an unrelated note...

I had a Mk2 Golf GTI 16V once that someone had fitted a pretty unusual security measure to. There was a keyhole down by the centre console/gearshift area that was used to physically lock the car in to reverse gear. No idea at all how it worked but once it was locked in the gearstick would not budge at all. God only knows how many times I jumped into it, turned it on and then found out I had to take the keys out of the ignition and unlock the bloody gearbox.

There was a random aftermarket button on the dash by the light switch that I never figured out also.
Barrier Deadlock. I posted about it earlier. Had one fitted to a Cavalier after a failed attempt to steal it (bolting stable door spings to mind). Never got stolen after that though smile

The Nur

9,168 posts

186 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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JagXJR said:
Barrier Deadlock. I posted about it earlier. Had one fitted to a Cavalier after a failed attempt to steal it (bolting stable door spings to mind). Never got stolen after that though smile
So you did. I did read the post too but without knowing what it was called it didn't click smile

MysteryLemon

4,968 posts

192 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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JohnoVR6 said:
Never used a crooklock. My sister bought one for her first car, a 1.1i Saxo, laugh I think it was worth more than the car at the time!

I'll be fitting one of these to my Impreza when it turns up;



Job done...until they break in for the keys!
MK1 Punto that...

coolnerdboxedingetmecoat

JohnoVR6

690 posts

213 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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MysteryLemon said:
MK1 Punto that...

coolnerdboxedingetmecoat
I'm glad you've said that, I've been racking my brains for the past hour trying to figure out where I knew that dash from! biggrin

ooo000ooo

2,532 posts

195 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Dave Hedgehog said:
unscrew gear knob, pull off device, drive away, a good 30 seconds of protection
IIRc they came with a collar that went below the gearknob. there was a bolt on the collar that you tightened into the gear lever and the head snapped off eventually leaving no easy way to remove it.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

266 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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JohnoVR6 said:
Never used a crooklock. My sister bought one for her first car, a 1.1i Saxo, laugh I think it was worth more than the car at the time!

I'll be fitting one of these to my Impreza when it turns up;



Job done...until they break in for the keys!
Taking off the hub adapter and screwing on another steering wheel takes about a minute.

Not a good deterant for anything other than casual skumbags.

I used one of these for years, and if you don't have a separate lockable boot it means carrying the bloody thing with you all the time. Plus it failed it's MOT when the pins got worn and allowed movement of the wheel.

I got a different quick release to replace it, which was better, but it now sits in the garage looking shiny and technical.

TheAngryDog

12,409 posts

210 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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zcacogp said:
Interesting thread.

I saw a modern (don't ask me what model - they all look the same to me) M5 the other day with a Diskloc on it. It stood out as something from a bygone age of motoring being used to secure a modern car. I assumed that the owner was aware of the problems of modern BMW's being nicked via the key-reprogramming scam and was taking extra precautions, but it still looked strangely out of place.


Oli.
I use a disclok on my e39 m5

Dave Hedgehog

14,568 posts

205 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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ooo000ooo said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
unscrew gear knob, pull off device, drive away, a good 30 seconds of protection
IIRc they came with a collar that went below the gearknob. there was a bolt on the collar that you tightened into the gear lever and the head snapped off eventually leaving no easy way to remove it.
they will just break in your house and stab you till you give them the keys then