RE: VW confirms Polo R
Discussion
abbotsmike said:
A few years down the line I had provisionally planned to go and buy a V6 S4 avant. If this can be fitted with a towbar, I might want one of these instead!
The GTI couldn't (technically not approved for towing). No reason why it couldn't though. My S3 wasn't approved for towing but did a fine job in towing my motorbike. ETA: when I get one of these I will be having a towbar fitted.
Edited by George29 on Friday 24th January 12:13
I quite like the idea. The GTi is quite a handsome looking little hot hatch. It's quite grown up which is no bad thing because not everyone wants a Fiesta ST.
I agree though with the others who say that it could be a tad more aggressive, but the previous R models (Mk IV R32 excluded) have all been really subtle.
The potential deal breaker could be the cost of it. If it's significantly more than the competition it'll alienate a lot of potential customers and the current GTi hasn't been a huge sales success judging by how few seem to be on the road.
I agree though with the others who say that it could be a tad more aggressive, but the previous R models (Mk IV R32 excluded) have all been really subtle.
The potential deal breaker could be the cost of it. If it's significantly more than the competition it'll alienate a lot of potential customers and the current GTi hasn't been a huge sales success judging by how few seem to be on the road.
WCZ said:
to be honest i'm suprised that the response hasn't been overwhelmingly positive, isn't this the car that everyone has been whining about not existing!?
If it wasn't from VAG, it would possibly get a less frosty reception. It ticks most of the boxes for a fun rally rep rocket, aside from the badge. Even the price isn't that bad on a bang for buck basis.VW seem to be pushing the silly models quite hard, with the Golf R Evo announced also.
The Golf R is too expensive for what it is prev and current version. A remapped gti will be on par for performance with lower running costs. Ok no 4wd but really...
Polo could be a good little car. I say little .. Not much size difference between 13 reg polo and my mk5 gti, few inches hera and there.
tempted by the polo as replacing my current gti ( mk5) for similar specced mk7 is £30k+
Polo could be a good little car. I say little .. Not much size difference between 13 reg polo and my mk5 gti, few inches hera and there.
tempted by the polo as replacing my current gti ( mk5) for similar specced mk7 is £30k+
George29 said:
abbotsmike said:
A few years down the line I had provisionally planned to go and buy a V6 S4 avant. If this can be fitted with a towbar, I might want one of these instead!
The GTI couldn't (technically not approved for towing). No reason why it couldn't though. My S3 wasn't approved for towing but did a fine job in towing my motorbike. ETA: when I get one of these I will be having a towbar fitted.
Edited by George29 on Friday 24th January 12:13
Brilliant news for everyone. This is the kind of thing that brings about fantastic choice and competition. The performance sector is on fire at the moment. Vast sums being invested. Anyone bemoaning the existence of cars such as this, would be well advised to consider the market without them.
I think Monkey wrote an article quite recently discussing [from memory] how lucky we are that the performance car market wasn't killed off by green legislation, and in fact is making a big comeback. In my opinion the guy was bang on, and cars like this can only help spur other manufacturers into considering similar machines. Any petrol head who considers performance car choices negatively, is probably a little bit silly.
I think Monkey wrote an article quite recently discussing [from memory] how lucky we are that the performance car market wasn't killed off by green legislation, and in fact is making a big comeback. In my opinion the guy was bang on, and cars like this can only help spur other manufacturers into considering similar machines. Any petrol head who considers performance car choices negatively, is probably a little bit silly.
Kenny Powers said:
Brilliant news for everyone. This is the kind of thing that brings about fantastic choice and competition. The performance sector is on fire at the moment. Vast sums being invested. Anyone bemoaning the existence of cars such as this, would be well advised to consider the market without them.
I think Monkey wrote an article quite recently discussing [from memory] how lucky we are that the performance car market wasn't killed off by green legislation, and in fact is making a big comeback. In my opinion the guy was bang on, and cars like this can only help spur other manufacturers into considering similar machines. Any petrol head who considers performance car choices negatively, is probably a little bit silly.
What are you doing here with your balanced and reasonable opinion, lack of negativity and refusal to denigrate entire sections of the market/society?!I think Monkey wrote an article quite recently discussing [from memory] how lucky we are that the performance car market wasn't killed off by green legislation, and in fact is making a big comeback. In my opinion the guy was bang on, and cars like this can only help spur other manufacturers into considering similar machines. Any petrol head who considers performance car choices negatively, is probably a little bit silly.
Axionknight said:
va1o said:
Oh and I'd be more than happy if its DSG only. That gearbox is phenomenal and once you've experienced it there is no going back to Manual.
Really, says who, apart from you?As for this car…the 2.0-litre, compared to using a 1.6, would also give more scope for further tuning, would it not?
personally I'd like to see VW calibrate the Haldex system to send 50>% of the power rearward and use Saab-esque torque vectoring on the rear as well as XDS on the front…then we really will have something pretty close to a road-going WRC car. After watching last season and the Monte Carlo just gone, you can see that's faster and more fun.
said:
Verdict
4 stars
Fast, strong, agile and grippy, the Polo R prototytpe delivers an all-new dimension to the Volkswagen Polo. Depending on pricing (and Volkswagen insiders are suggesting it will come in at close to £22,000), this could be VW’s new cult car and will put more internal pressure on Audi’s upcoming S1. Who knows, perhaps it’s the final motivation Ford needs to finally give a Fiesta RS the green light.
Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/polo/85376...
sounds good for the money.4 stars
Fast, strong, agile and grippy, the Polo R prototytpe delivers an all-new dimension to the Volkswagen Polo. Depending on pricing (and Volkswagen insiders are suggesting it will come in at close to £22,000), this could be VW’s new cult car and will put more internal pressure on Audi’s upcoming S1. Who knows, perhaps it’s the final motivation Ford needs to finally give a Fiesta RS the green light.
Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/polo/85376...
Clivey said:
Certainly not me. - I like DSG and personally would choose it in this car but also appreciate manuals and the choice thereof. In many cars I wouldn't have anything other than a 3-pedal manual and would actively avoid certain models because of the lack of choice. Choice and variety are good things.
STOP SPOUTING TOTAL SENSE ON A VAG PRODUCT THREAD! 
Clivey said:
As for this car…the 2.0-litre, compared to using a 1.6, would also give more scope for further tuning, would it not?
Depends on the variant if it's detuned from the (Golf) R version which I'd suspect it will be then, I'd guess mid 300's would be achievable software only based on what the tunners are hinting for Golf's/S3's 
If it's the normal GTI version then 270ish software only or 300ish with hardware mods, still quite a weapon.
However the standard brakes will probably be
as per usual so expect to see these littering the local hedgerows and ditches within weeks of first delivery, do Golf 340mm dia front discs and calipers fit?va1o said:
Oh and I'd be more than happy if its DSG only. That gearbox is phenomenal and once you've experienced it there is no going back to Manual.
I happily bought my Golf R in a manual after trying DSG. The manual is a nicer gearbox to use and doesn't have ongoing reliability concerns. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff