Where have all the enthusiasts gone?
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What's happening to PH? It's all about finance, leasing and slagging off any new car that comes out, however many questions it answers.
Is anyone like me in that if they see anything "interesting" they smile and appreciate it; be it a super plain looking Audi with a subtle 4.2 engine badge or a winged up fast rally rep?
We have a cracking choice of cars at the moment, many at the more or less affordable end of the market yet all we get is "it's too ugly, it's too dull, it's just a Beetle, it's too Playstation, it's too much of a handful, it weighs 3kg too much, blah blah blah"
There are some proper enthusiasts buried in amongst the waffling goons but they seem to be getting edged out.
Let's have more threads on the fun of driving, appreciate good cars new, old and in between, cut the elitist nonsense some (especially M car owners…) and bring back a little more smiles.
There's an overused cliche in surfing - the best surfer is the one having the most fun. I think this applies directly to driving too. We picked up our M135i today after it went in (at two weeks old!) for a bit of paint correction and I just grinned all the way home - the noise, the alertness of the chassis, the grip, the power; all hilarious fun for me and the family.
Come on guys (for there are very few girls), cheer up - It's Spring soon; drier roads, cool air; ideal driving conditions!!
Is anyone like me in that if they see anything "interesting" they smile and appreciate it; be it a super plain looking Audi with a subtle 4.2 engine badge or a winged up fast rally rep?
We have a cracking choice of cars at the moment, many at the more or less affordable end of the market yet all we get is "it's too ugly, it's too dull, it's just a Beetle, it's too Playstation, it's too much of a handful, it weighs 3kg too much, blah blah blah"
There are some proper enthusiasts buried in amongst the waffling goons but they seem to be getting edged out.
Let's have more threads on the fun of driving, appreciate good cars new, old and in between, cut the elitist nonsense some (especially M car owners…) and bring back a little more smiles.
There's an overused cliche in surfing - the best surfer is the one having the most fun. I think this applies directly to driving too. We picked up our M135i today after it went in (at two weeks old!) for a bit of paint correction and I just grinned all the way home - the noise, the alertness of the chassis, the grip, the power; all hilarious fun for me and the family.
Come on guys (for there are very few girls), cheer up - It's Spring soon; drier roads, cool air; ideal driving conditions!!
As much as I agree with you, because I'm a terminal car bore, we have to accept that times change. Some people (however misguided) care about image and what they think the car says about them.
A lot of modern cars are being heavily developed by the marketing department rather than the engineers. They have to do whatever makes them money I guess and the average person on the street just see's a car as a way to get from A to B and boast to the friends about it having the most fashionable badge this week. The modern car enthusiast represents this change.
There are a few of us left that can have just as much fun driving an F40, Ford KA or a ratty old van because we love driving.
A lot of modern cars are being heavily developed by the marketing department rather than the engineers. They have to do whatever makes them money I guess and the average person on the street just see's a car as a way to get from A to B and boast to the friends about it having the most fashionable badge this week. The modern car enthusiast represents this change.
There are a few of us left that can have just as much fun driving an F40, Ford KA or a ratty old van because we love driving.
poing said:
As much as I agree with you, because I'm a terminal car bore, we have to accept that times change. Some people (however misguided) care about image and what they think the car says about them.
A lot of modern cars are being heavily developed by the marketing department rather than the engineers. They have to do whatever makes them money I guess and the average person on the street just see's a car as a way to get from A to B and boast to the friends about it having the most fashionable badge this week. The modern car enthusiast represents this change.
There are a few of us left that can have just as much fun driving an F40, Ford KA or a ratty old van because we love driving.
Very well put. I think I'd have a lot of fun in an F40; right until I ended up backwards in a hedge.A lot of modern cars are being heavily developed by the marketing department rather than the engineers. They have to do whatever makes them money I guess and the average person on the street just see's a car as a way to get from A to B and boast to the friends about it having the most fashionable badge this week. The modern car enthusiast represents this change.
There are a few of us left that can have just as much fun driving an F40, Ford KA or a ratty old van because we love driving.
Because membership of the forum has very little in the way or prerequisites...and of those it does have strangely being a car enthusiast is not one of them.
The majority of real enthusiasts are too busy in their garage fettling or down the car auctions looking for their next project to be on some interwebs forum chatting to total strangers.
The majority of real enthusiasts are too busy in their garage fettling or down the car auctions looking for their next project to be on some interwebs forum chatting to total strangers.
Sorry delta but you were ignored the FIRST time; are you still trying to make your voice heard? You and any other moaning old tarts will be ignored. This isn't a thread for your sort. Please set up your own entitled "the bleating old women who bh more than a cheap sleb magazine thread."
You'll fit right in.
Anyway it's good to see a few of the good ones in here. The roads were actually almost DRY today; sadly it's battering it down again tomorrow...
You'll fit right in.
Anyway it's good to see a few of the good ones in here. The roads were actually almost DRY today; sadly it's battering it down again tomorrow...
Vladimir said:
Sorry delta but you were ignored the FIRST time; are you still trying to make your voice heard? You and any other moaning old tarts will be ignored. This isn't a thread for your sort. Please set up your own entitled "the bleating old women who bh more than a cheap sleb magazine thread."
You'll fit right in.
Anyway it's good to see a few of the good ones in here. The roads were actually almost DRY today; sadly it's battering it down again tomorrow...
Face it Vlad, you're a stereotype. No brain. No soul. Just a little boy with a vile mouth and no opinion of his own.You'll fit right in.
Anyway it's good to see a few of the good ones in here. The roads were actually almost DRY today; sadly it's battering it down again tomorrow...
Edited by deltashad on Saturday 25th January 20:31
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