Fog Lights in rain
Discussion
*Al* said:
In most conditions fog lights on don't bother me, what really boils my piss is the many many idiots that have no lights on at all! There should be ANPR cameras on bridges that ping a £60 fixed penalty fine in these conditions to any car with side or no lights on. It's because of this we have DRLs now by law.
I agree with this & don't understand why so many are angry at cars with front fogs on, they never seem all that bright to me & to be honest most DRLs are brighter & in the same position. While we are on the subject, much worse than this are the many idiots who drive with DRLs only in poor visibility (so no rear lights at all!) or sidelights only (don't even bother as they are so dim)Bigbox said:
I put my fog lights on if I find that I'm struggling to see the car in front's rear lights
If you don't like it, I don't give a s
t as long as you can see me and won't rear end me (ooo-errrr)
Strange that, are you referring to driving in fog and you are struggling to see the car in fronts fogs?If you don't like it, I don't give a s
t as long as you can see me and won't rear end me (ooo-errrr)I hope not, in foggy conditions even with out any cars in front you should put your fogs on so cars catching you up can see you.
1ians said:
My wife recently took her theory test, I was surprised at the lighting questions where the answer was to use your foglights in the rain.
I would inquire with who ever she took the questions with, when the Highway Code was changed!USE OF FOG LIGHTS
Rule 133 of the current Highway Code states: - 'Use fog lights when visibility is seriously reduced’
This generally means when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 ft). You MUST NOT use fog lights at other times'. Remember to switch them off when visibility improves.
Edited by Vipers on Sunday 26th January 21:46
Lot of sensible stuff here.
I find that rear fog lights distract from seeing brake lights so quickly / easily. I'd rather the cars behind me could easily see when I was braking, rather than just where I was.
As for rear fogs in rain, if there's a plume of spray, my guess is that there is a vehicle there.... I don't need an additional bright red light to help me ascertain the fact.
I use front fogs from time to time on unlit roads at night, makes it much easier to keep track of the edge of the road. I also find that they can pick out the many lakes that need navigating at the moment, and icing patches when its colder. I only turn on when properly useful though.
I find that rear fog lights distract from seeing brake lights so quickly / easily. I'd rather the cars behind me could easily see when I was braking, rather than just where I was.
As for rear fogs in rain, if there's a plume of spray, my guess is that there is a vehicle there.... I don't need an additional bright red light to help me ascertain the fact.
I use front fogs from time to time on unlit roads at night, makes it much easier to keep track of the edge of the road. I also find that they can pick out the many lakes that need navigating at the moment, and icing patches when its colder. I only turn on when properly useful though.
xRIEx said:
Where are you lot driving where you see fog lights on all the time?
Ha! Come to New Zealand. The number of people who drive with their fog lights on full time (mainly fronts admittedly), when it is perfectly clear and even when it is daytime, is appalling. I'm certain many are not even aware they have fog lights on or when they should be used. Unfortunately, plod does nothing about it, but will ping you for flashing if a speed camera is about because you are unnecessarily dazzling other traffic! Rant over.Rear fogs in the rain is not only pointless, it's downright dangerous. There is a delay for the cars behind to see your brake lights come on as their eyes are already full of bright red lights. You're asking to be rear ended in an emergency stop situation. Front fogs are only any good in really foggy conditions for lighting the few feet in front of your car, and they are not that good at that. Morons treat them as driving lights, but in reality they are 100% useless for that. Any one reading this who thinks rear fog lights in the rain is a good idea, please don't, it isn't.
I was on the M4 to Bristol, in rain, last Friday nght an ahd to endure a numpty in a Picasso with front fog lights blazing and out of adjustment and rear fog lights blinding everybody. Flashed it from behind and flashed ny own rear fogs at them from in front. Made no difference.
In general, most others all had appropriate lighting.
In general, most others all had appropriate lighting.
Shurv said:
Rear fogs in the rain is not only pointless, it's downright dangerous. There is a delay for the cars behind to see your brake lights come on as their eyes are already full of bright red lights.
You're asking to be rear ended in an emergency stop situation. Front fogs are only any good in really foggy conditions for lighting the few feet in front of your car, and they are not that good at that. Morons treat them as driving lights, but in reality they are 100% useless for that. Any one reading this who thinks rear fog lights in the rain is a good idea, please don't, it isn't.
I agree with rear fogs are dangerous in the rain. About the delay etc and being rear ended, simple answer is leave a bigger gap than usual. Then again some think rain doesnt affect their stopping distances.You're asking to be rear ended in an emergency stop situation. Front fogs are only any good in really foggy conditions for lighting the few feet in front of your car, and they are not that good at that. Morons treat them as driving lights, but in reality they are 100% useless for that. Any one reading this who thinks rear fog lights in the rain is a good idea, please don't, it isn't.
Lights in general seem to elude some drivers. In rain and darker evenings, I often see dark coloured cars with NO lights on, then there are those with the magic switch which turns on head light off, and leaves the other on full beam.
There are those with brake lights stuck on, brake lights which dont work, and those when they indicate all the other lights dim everytime the indicator flashes.
Vipers said:
1ians said:
My wife recently took her theory test, I was surprised at the lighting questions where the answer was to use your foglights in the rain.
I would inquire with who ever she took the questions with, when the Highway Code was changed!USE OF FOG LIGHTS
Rule 133 of the current Highway Code states: - 'Use fog lights when visibility is seriously reduced’
This generally means when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 ft). You MUST NOT use fog lights at other times'. Remember to switch them off when visibility improves.
The bit that's missing from the HC advice (and, by the sound of it, the theory test) is about the need to switch them off again when someone's behind you and your lights are going to cause them a problem, and that's applicable in fog or rain.
SK425 said:
I don't see the contradiction. Visibility can be as seriously reduced by very heavy rain and the associated spray as it can be by fog. Spray might only come a few feet up from the ground (as opposed to fog, which might go all the way up to the sky) but it's that few feet that matter.
The bit that's missing from the HC advice (and, by the sound of it, the theory test) is about the need to switch them off again when someone's behind you and your lights are going to cause them a problem, and that's applicable in fog or rain.
They can be appropriate. the issue is the incredible lack of awareness ie if you can see the lights on the car ahead of you, they aren't needed. I tend to be pro-active switching them on and off through pockets of fog and heavy spray in daylight but realy are they needed at night save in conditions where people should be travelling very slowly indeed.The bit that's missing from the HC advice (and, by the sound of it, the theory test) is about the need to switch them off again when someone's behind you and your lights are going to cause them a problem, and that's applicable in fog or rain.
SK425 said:
Vipers said:
1ians said:
My wife recently took her theory test, I was surprised at the lighting questions where the answer was to use your foglights in the rain.
I would inquire with who ever she took the questions with, when the Highway Code was changed!USE OF FOG LIGHTS
Rule 133 of the current Highway Code states: - 'Use fog lights when visibility is seriously reduced’
This generally means when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 ft). You MUST NOT use fog lights at other times'. Remember to switch them off when visibility improves.
The bit that's missing from the HC advice (and, by the sound of it, the theory test) is about the need to switch them off again when someone's behind you and your lights are going to cause them a problem, and that's applicable in fog or rain.
Must agree your thinking isnt wrong, I hadnt thought about it like that.
Our car has none so one less thing to annoy people with!
The van does and they come on individually when you steer sharply at under 20; sounds silly but it's useful.
Fog lights can be handy in horrific weather; gives you a slightly better, wide angled spread of light when the road surface is dire.
The van does and they come on individually when you steer sharply at under 20; sounds silly but it's useful.
Fog lights can be handy in horrific weather; gives you a slightly better, wide angled spread of light when the road surface is dire.
Vladimir said:
Our car has none so one less thing to annoy people with!
The van does and they come on individually when you steer sharply at under 20; sounds silly but it's useful.
Fog lights can be handy in horrific weather; gives you a slightly better, wide angled spread of light when the road surface is dire.
Legal requirement in the UK.The van does and they come on individually when you steer sharply at under 20; sounds silly but it's useful.
Fog lights can be handy in horrific weather; gives you a slightly better, wide angled spread of light when the road surface is dire.
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