Where is the scam here?

[KFC]

No answer on the phone number on the ad - he's probably too busy bumming the OP, or counting all the money he found in his wallet.

[Steffan]

zeduffman said:

This thread was pretty pointless really, wasn't it?

It beggars belief that anyone would even contemplate dropping TWENTY THOUSAND POUNDS on a car that has been advertised like this one has, let alone ask PH for advice and then ignore all of it.

I agree that the premise of the thread is questionable. But it does seem typical of a fair ampunt on PH to me. The OP's Dad should (has??) walk away. If he attempts to buy this car he is clearly taking grossly excessive risks.

[Easternlight]

The OP has been on Pistonheads over 6 years and he really believes that ad could be real!! FFS

Hand your membership in at the door.

[Jayfish]

Yet to read a 'Is this a scam' thread were it wasn't obvious to all but the OP it's a scam.

[rubystone]

I hope he reports back. I hate it when the OPs disappear from the threads..

[996TT02]

paul1087 said:

...the only picture posted was from google, and appeared to be an image from a approved dealer, photoshopped onto a background to give the appearance it was parked outside a house.

Without going into the merits of anything else, if it is photoshopped it is a very very good job, you can see the house's rainwater drain through the window and also there is the reflection of the house's wall, gutter and ivy in the side windows.

The windscreen isn't even perfectly clean either, where the wipers don't wipe, there is some grime.

As far as I am concerned that car was almost certainly photographed in that location, and the only thing photoshopped was the number plate.

As previous, "Without going into the merits of anything else.."

[hairykrishna]

996TT02 said:

paul1087 said:

...the only picture posted was from google, and appeared to be an image from a approved dealer, photoshopped onto a background to give the appearance it was parked outside a house.

Without going into the merits of anything else, if it is photoshopped it is a very very good job, you can see the house's rainwater drain through the window and also there is the reflection of the house's wall, gutter and ivy in the side windows.

The windscreen isn't even perfectly clean either, where the wipers don't wipe, there is some grime.

As far as I am concerned that car was almost certainly photographed in that location, and the only thing photoshopped was the number plate.

As previous, "Without going into the merits of anything else.."

The whole image comes unmodified from a dealer advert - I linked it earlier.

[bigandclever]

hairykrishna said:

996TT02 said:

paul1087 said:

...the only picture posted was from google, and appeared to be an image from a approved dealer, photoshopped onto a background to give the appearance it was parked outside a house.

Without going into the merits of anything else, if it is photoshopped it is a very very good job, you can see the house's rainwater drain through the window and also there is the reflection of the house's wall, gutter and ivy in the side windows.

The windscreen isn't even perfectly clean either, where the wipers don't wipe, there is some grime.

As far as I am concerned that car was almost certainly photographed in that location, and the only thing photoshopped was the number plate.

As previous, "Without going into the merits of anything else.."

The whole image comes unmodified from a dealer advert - I linked it earlier.

Not that this particularly matters to the thread but the location is used by Bridgend Audi for most of their shots.

[the_lone_wolf]

Save Ferris said:

I guess it's this one..

http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/audi...

[Fastra]

996TT02 said:

paul1087 said:

...the only picture posted was from google, and appeared to be an image from a approved dealer, photoshopped onto a background to give the appearance it was parked outside a house.

Without going into the merits of anything else, if it is photoshopped it is a very very good job, you can see the house's rainwater drain through the window and also there is the reflection of the house's wall, gutter and ivy in the side windows.

The windscreen isn't even perfectly clean either, where the wipers don't wipe, there is some grime.

As far as I am concerned that car was almost certainly photographed in that location, and the only thing photoshopped was the number plate.

As previous, "Without going into the merits of anything else.."

+1

dondan said:

Photo shop on that advert is hilarious... first thing I'd be doing is asking him to explain that!

Goes to show that you majority of people really wouldn't know a 'photoshop' if it hit them in the face.

[uncinquesei]

vikingaero said:

Spangles said:

dondan said:

Photo shop on that advert is hilarious... first thing I'd be doing is asking him to explain that!

What photoshop?

All dealers are to be 100% trusted and they would never photoshop.

Levitating Jimny?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...

That is not a photoshop, it's at Bridgend audi and all their cars are photographed in the same place. I know this because I put all Bridgend Audi's used cars on the audi approved website. Without checking, the "approved" plate may be superimposed because the car is a current demo. The photographer does this himself, the dealers don't take our own pics.

[KFC]

Fastra said:

996TT02 said:

paul1087 said:

...the only picture posted was from google, and appeared to be an image from a approved dealer, photoshopped onto a background to give the appearance it was parked outside a house.

Without going into the merits of anything else, if it is photoshopped it is a very very good job, you can see the house's rainwater drain through the window and also there is the reflection of the house's wall, gutter and ivy in the side windows.

The windscreen isn't even perfectly clean either, where the wipers don't wipe, there is some grime.

As far as I am concerned that car was almost certainly photographed in that location, and the only thing photoshopped was the number plate.

As previous, "Without going into the merits of anything else.."

+1

dondan said:

Photo shop on that advert is hilarious... first thing I'd be doing is asking him to explain that!

Goes to show that you majority of people really wouldn't know a 'photoshop' if it hit them in the face.

I don't have any real opinion on whether its photoshopped or not - I've not seen anything conclusive either way.

But if its not photoshopped... the photos are dishonest anyway. As they were from when the original dealer sold the car (look at the plates). If I'm buying a car I don't want to see pics from when you bought the car originally... I want to see current pics.

Anyway... whats the bets on the OP even replying this thread again?

[bigandclever]

KFC said:

I don't have any real opinion on whether its photoshopped or not - I've not seen anything conclusive either way.

It's been pointed out twice they're Bridgend Audi photos. Look at any photo of their Approved Used ... http://www.audi.co.uk/used-cars/used-car-locator/r...

[33q]

The photo is copied from the Audi site. It's not photshopped.

The car in the image is not allowed to be released from its demo status until 8/2/14.

Look at the facts....why would anyone honestly sell a car in this way?

[gazchap]

Here's the M3 Coupe I posted about earlier that has photoshopped pictures from a main dealer.

Not sure why they'd do this, it's one of the first things I'd notice and it'd put me off the car straight away.

[billywhizzzzzz]

gazchap said:

Here's the M3 Coupe I posted about earlier that has photoshopped pictures from a main dealer.

Not sure why they'd do this, it's one of the first things I'd notice and it'd put me off the car straight away.

Except it doesn't look photoshopped

[mrmr96]

billywhizzzzzz said:

gazchap said:

Here's the M3 Coupe I posted about earlier that has photoshopped pictures from a main dealer.

Not sure why they'd do this, it's one of the first things I'd notice and it'd put me off the car straight away.

Except it doesn't look photoshopped

Except it definitely is. Look at the pagoda thing in the background. See how it's in the EXACT same position in both pics? Well they could have used a tripod, right? Wrong. Look at the lines of the car park. They move between photos and the pagoda doesn't. The car and floor are real but the background has been 'shopped in. HTH.

PS - Cue "Oh, I was only looking at the tyres" from Billy...

[billywhizzzzzz]

mrmr96 said:

billywhizzzzzz said:

gazchap said:

Here's the M3 Coupe I posted about earlier that has photoshopped pictures from a main dealer.

Not sure why they'd do this, it's one of the first things I'd notice and it'd put me off the car straight away.

Except it doesn't look photoshopped

Except it definitely is. Look at the pagoda thing in the background. See how it's in the EXACT same position in both pics? Well they could have used a tripod, right? Wrong. Look at the lines of the car park. They move between photos and the pagoda doesn't. The car and floor are real but the background has been 'shopped in. HTH.

PS - Cue "Oh, I was only looking at the tyres" from Billy...

Actually - I think it looks more like a fake background than photoshopped!

[mrmr96]

billywhizzzzzz said:

mrmr96 said:

billywhizzzzzz said:

gazchap said:

Here's the M3 Coupe I posted about earlier that has photoshopped pictures from a main dealer.

Not sure why they'd do this, it's one of the first things I'd notice and it'd put me off the car straight away.

Except it doesn't look photoshopped

Except it definitely is. Look at the pagoda thing in the background. See how it's in the EXACT same position in both pics? Well they could have used a tripod, right? Wrong. Look at the lines of the car park. They move between photos and the pagoda doesn't. The car and floor are real but the background has been 'shopped in. HTH.

PS - Cue "Oh, I was only looking at the tyres" from Billy...

Actually - I think it looks more like a fake background than photoshopped!

So given that it's in the same place in the camera frame, but a different place relative to the white lines of the car park... how would that work?

[gazchap]

It is definitely photoshopped, dude. The pagoda thing in the background is the bandstand at the Quarry park in Shrewsbury, which is surrounded by grass and walkways, and has no vehicular access at all. Where the car park is in those photos is just grass in reality