RE: Citroen AX at the 'ring: Time For Tea?

RE: Citroen AX at the 'ring: Time For Tea?

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HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

183 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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I really, really struggled to get a sub 10-minute lap in my 205 1.9, so massive respect for this.

I did do it though...but I'd never try again.

TransverseTight

753 posts

146 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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He could probably have gone a bit faster if he wore a tshirt as well as the shorts to save weight. wink

thegreenhell

15,538 posts

220 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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Bezza1969 said:
TClarkson only managed a 9:59 in a 2.7D Jag S Type!
Some people say... he didn't even manage that.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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HereBeMonsters said:
I really, really struggled to get a sub 10-minute lap in my 205 1.9, so massive respect for this.

I did do it though...but I'd never try again.
Diesel or GTI?

Ian 1800

117 posts

246 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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Respect. That was full on awesome.

When I saw the 52bhp and under 10 minutes I thought the bhp was a lie.... After watching the video it's definitely not! Brilliant.

True 'petrol' head.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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i really must give it a go in GT6 biggrin

shame theres no AX though.. but countless other pointlessly powerless cars of similar pedigree biggrin

samoht

5,777 posts

147 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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SystemParanoia said:
i really must give it a go in GT6 biggrin
shame theres no AX though.. but countless other pointlessly powerless cars of similar pedigree biggrin
I was inspired to have a go with a Fiat Panda. Stage 1 power for 59hp, Sport Hard tyres on the front only (leaving Comfort Medium on the rear), plastic windows for 720kg.

From the in-car view, the lurching and lift-off oversteer was a fair match for AX video, although the driving talent certainly was not. Still, at least it'll hurt a lot less to have an off in GT...

oobster

7,113 posts

212 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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Kind-of off topic slightly, but did anyone who had an AX ever have any bother with the brakes?

I remember the brakes on mine would lock solid, something to do with the rod between the pedal and the master cylinder running along the bulkhead sticking - I seem to recall I was told it was because the left-hand drive cars didn't have this rod but when Citroen made a RHD version they left the brake master cylinder on the same side as LHD cars and had to engineer this rod to connect the pedal to the other side of the car.

I remember having to pop the bonnet, get out, retrieve the wheel brace from the boot, open the bonnet and whack the rod with the wheel brace in order to get the car to move!

P I Staker

3,308 posts

157 months

Saturday 1st February 2014
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oobster said:
Kind-of off topic slightly, but did anyone who had an AX ever have any bother with the brakes?

I remember the brakes on mine would lock solid, something to do with the rod between the pedal and the master cylinder running along the bulkhead sticking - I seem to recall I was told it was because the left-hand drive cars didn't have this rod but when Citroen made a RHD version they left the brake master cylinder on the same side as LHD cars and had to engineer this rod to connect the pedal to the other side of the car.

I remember having to pop the bonnet, get out, retrieve the wheel brace from the boot, open the bonnet and whack the rod with the wheel brace in order to get the car to move!
Loads of cars have this set up, I've never heard of them sticking before though!

blasos

347 posts

163 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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Pistonheads said:
...finally, after seven years, 118 laps, nine engines and five gearboxes, at 8:37am on August 17 2013, said AX enthusiast nailed his goal with a 9min 55sec Bridge to Gantry lap.
That's a tremendous waste of resources all in the cause of such a trivial and inconsequential goal.

thegreenhell

15,538 posts

220 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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blasos said:
Pistonheads said:
...finally, after seven years, 118 laps, nine engines and five gearboxes, at 8:37am on August 17 2013, said AX enthusiast nailed his goal with a 9min 55sec Bridge to Gantry lap.
That's a tremendous waste of resources all in the cause of such a trivial and inconsequential goal.
You could say the same about all forms of motorsport and recreational driving. But really, I think you're just on the wrong website.

Jessop

435 posts

195 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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thegreenhell said:
You could say the same about all forms of motorsport and recreational driving. But really, I think you're just on the wrong website.
I concur.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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To be honest, I understand what he's getting at. Fastest lap of the Nordschleife (that in itself controversial due to its lack of definition) in a crappy 80s non-turbo diesel hatch? One can only admire his dedication and driving skill, but I think he could have spent the time and money more productively, in better, faster, more mechanically robust machinery.

Dapster

7,000 posts

181 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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Mental!

The boy has balls alright, but maxing an AX with no helmet and wearing shorts... If he'd had an off, it'd have been a dental records job.

Bibbs

3,733 posts

211 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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bazjw said:
I had a AX GT5, bought it 10 years old and 93000miles on the clock - amazing fun when it ran but slowly fell apart around me! Worst car i ever bought, but miss it!

Happy days smile
Same.
I got a '92 GT in 1999.

Lasted about a year before someone punted it up the road with me in it.

Had wonderful issues like the carburettor bolts would keep coming undone, making the car stall (usually saved for busy roundabouts).
Sunroof was never water tight, there was a leak that would soak the drivers seatbelt so I'd always get to work with a wet stripe across my shirt.
Speed humps had to be taken slowly or the drivers window would pop out of it's runner and fall into the door.
Headlights needed a tap to come on main beam.
Foglights were rusted solid and never worked.
The exhaust tip fell off and burned a hole in the rear bumper.

2nd Worst car I've ever owned, but I miss it.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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What was the worst?!

Incidentally, I doubt an AX crashing would result in a fire. Engine would presumably stall and diesel, being fundamentally inert, doesn't combust except under compression, so there's no risk of its fuel tank exploding. I could be wrong, of course...

Bibbs

3,733 posts

211 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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RoverP6B said:
What was the worst?!
A Ford Escort I bought for 50 quid when I blew my Honda's engine up.
It was a hateful car that had no redeeming features. But it served a purpose.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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Bibbs said:
A Ford Escort I bought for 50 quid when I blew my Honda's engine up.
It was a hateful car that had no redeeming features. But it served a purpose.
A - how on earth do you blow up a Honda engine? They're legendary for their robustness and keenness to rev.
B - what generation of Escort?
C - was the Escort really any less reliable than the Citroen?

Bibbs

3,733 posts

211 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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RoverP6B said:
A - how on earth do you blow up a Honda engine? They're legendary for their robustness and keenness to rev.
B - what generation of Escort?
C - was the Escort really any less reliable than the Citroen?
A. 9.2 PSI @ 9200rpm on a stock JDM engine (higher compression). Bent crank, two cylinders heavily scored, lots of det on all four pistons, stretched timing chain, all four sets of piston rings shot.
B. 5th I think, about '92/93. Think it was a 1.6 Estate.
C. I had it a few months. Lots of welding for the MOT, automatic choke failed (replaced with a manual one), 2 ECUs, a fuel cap, rear doors seized, and a lot of water leaks, engine stalls when warm. It also didn't have any of the redeeming fun factor that the AX had.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

183 months

Monday 3rd February 2014
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RoverP6B said:
HereBeMonsters said:
I really, really struggled to get a sub 10-minute lap in my 205 1.9, so massive respect for this.

I did do it though...but I'd never try again.
Diesel or GTI?
Er, GTI. No such thing as a 1.9 Diesel 205. They had the older 1.8.