What is the most nicely surprising car you've driven.

What is the most nicely surprising car you've driven.

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DickyC

49,801 posts

199 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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A very elderly 1.5 Alfasud.

The sweetest handling car with fine road holding.

The Alfasud, for those unfamiliar with it, was Alfa's smallish front wheel drive saloon with a flat four engine with its inherently low centre of gravity and rust.

shoestring7

6,138 posts

247 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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DickyC said:
A very elderly 1.5 Alfasud.

The sweetest handling car with fine road holding.

The Alfasud, for those unfamiliar with it, was Alfa's smallish front wheel drive saloon with a flat four engine with its inherently low centre of gravity and rust.
Agreed, I learnt to drive properly in a 1.2ti. The Sud's combination of balance, sweet steering, willing engine and a chassis that could glide down the worst B road tarmac isn't something I see in any modern fwd car.

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Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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DickyC said:
Gimme a W...
Gimme an h...

and you can have the oosh! thrown in for free biggrin

Prince Rupert

430 posts

206 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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FiF said:
SebastienClement said:
FiF said:
What explanation do you need. Pairing the phone was done by voice commands. It was st.

It had an electronic handbrake. That too was st.
This
Hth.
But it doesn't sound poorly equipped, even if the equipment is ste.

Ok I see your point but in my opinion if some equipment is so poor in operation that it may as well not be there or at minimum replaced by something that works properly that is poorly equipped.

An analogy could be a hotel which gets lots of stars because it ticks the boxes in terms of providing lots of facilities, but when you try and use those facilities they aren't up to scratch and the rooms are dirty, the food unpalatable and cold and the staff surly.

It still gets x stars because it ticks the box for provides room service, say, but in reality you just wouldn't.

That's the point.

Edited DickyC sums it up far better than I

Edited by FiF on Thursday 13th February 10:25
Oddly, the kind of hotel that has a car park full of rep spec Insignias!

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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Turbodiesel1976 said:
MethylatedSpirit said:
Ford focus drives much better than most other cars of similar age.
You've been watching too much top gear mate smile
I disagree hugely here

I bought a mk1 focus as a total snotter to replace a similar age golf which got bored being car and tried being a barbecue which was a bad idea as it really wasn't good for the car.

The wife had a smiliar aged disastra

So i had the 3 best sellers in that group of cars all built within 3 years of each other and the focus was head a shoulders above the other two

And it is not like the focus was a well cared for example.


geeks

9,204 posts

140 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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Another vote for the Nissan Note, surprised us in every way how good a car it actually was!

toon10

6,194 posts

158 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
I disagree hugely here

I bought a mk1 focus as a total snotter to replace a similar age golf which got bored being car and tried being a barbecue which was a bad idea as it really wasn't good for the car.

The wife had a smiliar aged disastra

So i had the 3 best sellers in that group of cars all built within 3 years of each other and the focus was head a shoulders above the other two

And it is not like the focus was a well cared for example.
I borrowed my ex father in laws 1.6 Mk1 Focus for a trip to the Lakes once. I thought it was ugly and totally slow. I took it on some great drivers roads and it just came alive. I had a play with a Volvo v40 T4. He kept shooting off into the distance on straights but as as soon as the kinks in the road appeared, I was all over him. It handled so much better than the cars it was competing with and was even better than some hot hatches I've driven.