Speeding worse than drug taking? Public opinion.

Speeding worse than drug taking? Public opinion.

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eddy02

283 posts

126 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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GroundEffect said:
Drug taking only really affects those who do it, to a point - weed really only does affect the user but some drugs like heroin obviously has knock-on effects.

Speeding directly impacts the safety of others.

Simple?
Er? where do these druggies get the money from to feed their disgusting habit.Anybody that has to resort to taking/smoking/injecting something to get them through the day are just the saddest form of life next to kiddie fiddlers.

Robb F

4,575 posts

172 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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eddy02 said:
Er? where do these druggies get the money from to feed their disgusting habit.Anybody that has to resort to taking/smoking/injecting something to get them through the day are just the saddest form of life next to kiddie fiddlers.
I'm lost for words.

Mave

8,209 posts

216 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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eddy02 said:
Er? where do these druggies get the money from to feed their disgusting habit.Anybody that has to resort to taking/smoking/injecting something to get them through the day are just the saddest form of life next to kiddie fiddlers.
Maybe from their jobs? Not everyone that takes drugs is a trainspotting addict, just like not everyone who speeds is doing 130mph past a school...

jonnM

1,102 posts

140 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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eddy02 said:
Er? where do these druggies get the money from to feed their disgusting habit.Anybody that has to resort to taking/smoking/injecting something to get them through the day are just the saddest form of life next to kiddie fiddlers.
Kiddie fiddlers are not all bad...at least they slow down when they drive past schools smile

saabster14

487 posts

155 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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eddy02 said:
Er? where do these druggies get the money from to feed their disgusting habit.Anybody that has to resort to taking/smoking/injecting something to get them through the day are just the saddest form of life next to kiddie fiddlers.
rofl

Oh dear oh dear....

Either some top trolling or you've had the daily mail intravenously injected.

saabster14

487 posts

155 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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jonnM said:
Kiddie fiddlers are not all bad...at least they slow down when they drive past schools smile
laugh

Devil2575

13,400 posts

189 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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HertsBiker said:
I was amazed when discussing drugs with my work colleagues, who have smoked pot, taken cocaine, heroin, extasy (sp?), speed, and other illegal and dangerous drugs...... Said my 'speeding' is worse.
Where do you work!?

I know people who have taken ecstacy and i've smoked pot but heroin!?

It's an opinion. That is all.

I personally don't see a reason why drugs like ecstacy are illegal, given that most of the few deaths that do occur are due to people not knowing what they are taking.

Do I think that speeding is worse that taking any drug? That depends on how fast and what drug?

It's not black and white. Doing 150 mph past a school is a lot worse that smoking a joint. The big issue with drugs is the other behaviours that result, such as neglecting children and crime to fund the habit.





BGarside

1,564 posts

138 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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SystemParanoia said:
they don't need to be nice .. or friendly.. what their selling isn't illegal contraband
It probably should be, though, given the effect on the environment...

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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Troubleatmill said:
Depends on your perspective.

Hypothetically - If you lose control of your car (or bike) and wipe out my nearest and dearest; and I found out you have a habit of speeding...
Then there is nowhere on this planet that you and your family will be safe.
I would make it a mission to remove from this earth what you love the most.

Still have a heavy right foot?
Likewise if you were a drug dealer (or introduced someone to drugs) and your filthy trade caused the death of a friend or family.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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Troubleatmill said:
Depends on your perspective.

Hypothetically - If you lose control of your car (or bike) and wipe out my nearest and dearest; and I found out you have a habit of speeding...
Then there is nowhere on this planet that you and your family will be safe.
I would make it a mission to remove from this earth what you love the most.

Still have a heavy right foot?

Snowboy

8,028 posts

152 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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Most of the drug arguments are based around what happens if the recreational drug user becomes an addict, dealer or pusher.
For the most part taking recreational drugs in a safe environment can be roughly compared to a track day.
It's expensive, it's fun, there's a degree of risk.

Speeding at a track day is fine too.

But, speeding on the roads, amongst traffic and pedestrians is dangerous to others.

Now, I'm guessing the mates aren't talking about speeding being a little bit over.
For the conversation to go that way I'm guessing the OP has a reputation as a bit if a boy racer, or perhaps indulges in street racing.


Devil2575

13,400 posts

189 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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Snowboy said:
Most of the drug arguments are based around what happens if the recreational drug user becomes an addict, dealer or pusher.
For the most part taking recreational drugs in a safe environment can be roughly compared to a track day.
It's expensive, it's fun, there's a degree of risk.
I'm not sure that the degree of risk involved in taking certain recreational drugs is any more than other perfectly legal activities that are not considered risky at all.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7876425.stm


BJG1

5,966 posts

213 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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HertsBiker said:
I was amazed when discussing drugs with my work colleagues, who have smoked pot, taken cocaine, heroin, extasy (sp?), speed, and other illegal and dangerous drugs...... Said my 'speeding' is worse.

We've lost. The soppy speed kills message has got to them, and drugs are okay now. Apparently.

In my life, I never had a smash due to excess mph. My colleagues have taken properly bad stuff,.yet how do they imagine they are less criminal then me?

Help me understand please.
They are correct, IMO. Both are perfectly safe if done prudently, but if done unsafely speeding is dangerous to others, drug taking isn't.

There's literally nothing wrong at all with taking drugs, IMO, so they're correct.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

152 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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Devil2575 said:
Snowboy said:
Most of the drug arguments are based around what happens if the recreational drug user becomes an addict, dealer or pusher.
For the most part taking recreational drugs in a safe environment can be roughly compared to a track day.
It's expensive, it's fun, there's a degree of risk.
I'm not sure that the degree of risk involved in taking certain recreational drugs is any more than other perfectly legal activities that are not considered risky at all.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7876425.stm
Exactly.
That's my point.

Sure, abuse of drugs can lead down a dark path.
But the fact the blokes in the conversation had jobs and friends and seemed to be aware of themselves then it's no more risky than a weekend drinker becoming an alcoholic.

If there is an injury;
Recreational drug use normally only causes injury to oneself.
Speeding often causes injury to others.

kambites

67,643 posts

222 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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I'd certainly say that driving dangerously is worse than taking drugs. In the minds of much (most?) of the population, speeding is automatically dangerous.

kambites

67,643 posts

222 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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eddy02 said:
Er? where do these druggies get the money from to feed their disgusting habit.
confused The same place we get our money from to buy cars, mostly.

g3org3y

20,658 posts

192 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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eddy02 said:
GroundEffect said:
Drug taking only really affects those who do it, to a point - weed really only does affect the user but some drugs like heroin obviously has knock-on effects.

Speeding directly impacts the safety of others.

Simple?
Er? where do these druggies get the money from to feed their disgusting habit.Anybody that has to resort to taking/smoking/injecting something to get them through the day are just the saddest form of life next to kiddie fiddlers.
El Oh El.

Top post.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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Clearly he doesn't drink, smoke, or watch junk television.


Devil2575

13,400 posts

189 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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I know a number of people who take drugs recreationally who live perfectly normal lives. It's treated much like alcohol.

BJG1

5,966 posts

213 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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eddy02 said:
Er? where do these druggies get the money from to feed their disgusting habit.Anybody that has to resort to taking/smoking/injecting something to get them through the day are just the saddest form of life next to kiddie fiddlers.
Well in the last month I've spent over £60,000 funding my car habit and about £50 on my drug habit and I'm not robbing any grannies