Cooper S Clubman.
Discussion
Wild Rumpus said:
watch out for the amount that Mini dealers ask to do routine jobs like brake pads/discs.
What??? You'll be telling me that they'll tell me the brakes are goosed whilst they clearly have another 10-15k miles' worth of use next :-)Have a feeling the Mini dealers wont be that much worse than the rest of them but stand, as always, to be corrected.
2 of my friends have them one a JCW the other a cooper S the Cooper S was brought used just 12 months ago covered 45,000 miles the timing chian started rattling so it was taken in under warenty and they have now decided to change the flywheel and clutch all FOC.
I own a Cooper SD Countryman All 4 and really do think its the best modern car I've owned
I own a Cooper SD Countryman All 4 and really do think its the best modern car I've owned
Wild Rumpus said:
They wanted £1200 to replace the discs & pads on my JCW - they were pretty shagged after 20K miles, though. Shouldn't be such a big problem on the regular Cooper S as the JCW has model-specific brakes (and you couldn't get them anywhere else apart from the Mini dealers at the time)
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ks ! There are loads of mini specialist who can source and replace JCW brakes and pads.unless your talking within the first few months of r56 jcw release 08 then maybe but otherwise they saw you comming surely. Big brake kits for the front with 6pot calipers start at that kind of money. I run a r56 JCW and it's a fantastic car. It replaced my 987 boxster. The mini is a brilliant allrounder and relatively cheap to run. There are lots of specialist if you have any bits you fancy doing or need doing. I highly recommend Evolve automotive, lohen & 1320.
Depending on mileage and age the price doesn't sound far off. Good luck and if you go for it I'm sure u'll enjoy it.
I ended up buying the discs from a discount supplier, but they were genuine BMW items as there were no other suppliers at the time who made these, I bought the pads from Mintex - it was the first batch they had made, and fitted them all myself. It still cost me £600, though. I spent a load of time on the Mini forums at the time to find the best option - I could have saved more money by fitting Nissan 350 pads (which apparently fit the front). This was all a couple of years ago.
The dealers offer those great pre-paid servicing deals - but they really try to make their money on any extra work that comes out through the servicing.
The dealers offer those great pre-paid servicing deals - but they really try to make their money on any extra work that comes out through the servicing.
We had a high spec Cooper SD for a test drive recently. I really like the Clubman model. Managed to get a 7ft Xmas tree in quite easily. We already have a bssic Mini One hatch and even with just 95bhp it's still fun to drive. If I were to change it I would just move up to Cooper level.
Holy Thread Resurrection Batman!
I'm considering the Clubman Cooper SD as my next car.
I quite like the quirky doors and boot etc.
My list of needs is
4 seats
Good MPG
Relatively quick i.e sub 8-9sec 0-60
A touch unusual too as this is my current drive
So what do I need to know?
I have thought about Seat Leon FR, Audi TT Tdi, BMW 123d, range of 3 and 5 series etc etc
Anyone near Woking, Surrey got one?
Cheers
I'm considering the Clubman Cooper SD as my next car.
I quite like the quirky doors and boot etc.
My list of needs is
4 seats
Good MPG
Relatively quick i.e sub 8-9sec 0-60
A touch unusual too as this is my current drive
So what do I need to know?
I have thought about Seat Leon FR, Audi TT Tdi, BMW 123d, range of 3 and 5 series etc etc
Anyone near Woking, Surrey got one?
Cheers
spurs coupe said:
Holy Thread Resurrection Batman!
I'm considering the Clubman Cooper SD as my next car.
I quite like the quirky doors and boot etc.
My list of needs is
4 seats
Good MPG
Relatively quick i.e sub 8-9sec 0-60
A touch unusual too as this is my current drive
So what do I need to know?
I have thought about Seat Leon FR, Audi TT Tdi, BMW 123d, range of 3 and 5 series etc etc
Anyone near Woking, Surrey got one?
Cheers
Are you selling the bread van? It's v nice.I'm considering the Clubman Cooper SD as my next car.
I quite like the quirky doors and boot etc.
My list of needs is
4 seats
Good MPG
Relatively quick i.e sub 8-9sec 0-60
A touch unusual too as this is my current drive
So what do I need to know?
I have thought about Seat Leon FR, Audi TT Tdi, BMW 123d, range of 3 and 5 series etc etc
Anyone near Woking, Surrey got one?
Cheers
I've got a 2009 Clubman S Automatic and it's one of the best cars I've had. I prefer the looks to the standard hatchback MINI which, like the Fiat 500, looks too twee. I'm someone who prefers the Estate version of most cars.
I wanted a MINI to replace the 2001 MINI Cooper that I owned for less than a year after the birth of my daughter. The Clubman has a decent amount of rear legroom for them and the deeper boot helps. I don't have a problem with the Clubdoor being on the wrong side - they can still get out of the passenger side and to be honest I don't park on the street that much and it's really my 3rd car/commuting car.
The kids absolutely love the car. They like the security of being enclosed with the doors, the mood lighting that can be changed from amber to pink and to blue. They basiclly think it's a "really cool car".
The handling is slightly softer than the standard hatch. Still overly harsh at times, but on motorways it's a competent and smooth cruiser.
I've had a couple of issues: (1) Rust on the first rear barn door where the rubber contacts the door. MINI dealers will often fix cars out of warranty (2) Oil consumption can be high (but within range) but recently this has settled down. There are also possible common R56 type issues for this engine (coking and timing belt). The upright screen is prone to stonechips and the roof gutter can't cope with normal volumes of water and can dump water through an open window when cornering. The seat bolster will wear faster than on normal cars because of the low entry height and the need to lean on it.
If you plan to use a roof rack then buy a car with roof rails otherwise the roof bars that I have are ugly and hard to fit.
MPG is 37mpg - but I drive to/from work at 60mph to listen to music of my choice and at my (high) volume. Hard driving produces low 20's.
I wanted a MINI to replace the 2001 MINI Cooper that I owned for less than a year after the birth of my daughter. The Clubman has a decent amount of rear legroom for them and the deeper boot helps. I don't have a problem with the Clubdoor being on the wrong side - they can still get out of the passenger side and to be honest I don't park on the street that much and it's really my 3rd car/commuting car.
The kids absolutely love the car. They like the security of being enclosed with the doors, the mood lighting that can be changed from amber to pink and to blue. They basiclly think it's a "really cool car".
The handling is slightly softer than the standard hatch. Still overly harsh at times, but on motorways it's a competent and smooth cruiser.
I've had a couple of issues: (1) Rust on the first rear barn door where the rubber contacts the door. MINI dealers will often fix cars out of warranty (2) Oil consumption can be high (but within range) but recently this has settled down. There are also possible common R56 type issues for this engine (coking and timing belt). The upright screen is prone to stonechips and the roof gutter can't cope with normal volumes of water and can dump water through an open window when cornering. The seat bolster will wear faster than on normal cars because of the low entry height and the need to lean on it.
If you plan to use a roof rack then buy a car with roof rails otherwise the roof bars that I have are ugly and hard to fit.
MPG is 37mpg - but I drive to/from work at 60mph to listen to music of my choice and at my (high) volume. Hard driving produces low 20's.
Thanks for the info, very useful
vikingaero said:
I've got a 2009 Clubman S Automatic and it's one of the best cars I've had. I prefer the looks to the standard hatchback MINI which, like the Fiat 500, looks too twee. I'm someone who prefers the Estate version of most cars.
I wanted a MINI to replace the 2001 MINI Cooper that I owned for less than a year after the birth of my daughter. The Clubman has a decent amount of rear legroom for them and the deeper boot helps. I don't have a problem with the Clubdoor being on the wrong side - they can still get out of the passenger side and to be honest I don't park on the street that much and it's really my 3rd car/commuting car.
The kids absolutely love the car. They like the security of being enclosed with the doors, the mood lighting that can be changed from amber to pink and to blue. They basiclly think it's a "really cool car".
The handling is slightly softer than the standard hatch. Still overly harsh at times, but on motorways it's a competent and smooth cruiser.
I've had a couple of issues: (1) Rust on the first rear barn door where the rubber contacts the door. MINI dealers will often fix cars out of warranty (2) Oil consumption can be high (but within range) but recently this has settled down. There are also possible common R56 type issues for this engine (coking and timing belt). The upright screen is prone to stonechips and the roof gutter can't cope with normal volumes of water and can dump water through an open window when cornering. The seat bolster will wear faster than on normal cars because of the low entry height and the need to lean on it.
If you plan to use a roof rack then buy a car with roof rails otherwise the roof bars that I have are ugly and hard to fit.
MPG is 37mpg - but I drive to/from work at 60mph to listen to music of my choice and at my (high) volume. Hard driving produces low 20's.
I wanted a MINI to replace the 2001 MINI Cooper that I owned for less than a year after the birth of my daughter. The Clubman has a decent amount of rear legroom for them and the deeper boot helps. I don't have a problem with the Clubdoor being on the wrong side - they can still get out of the passenger side and to be honest I don't park on the street that much and it's really my 3rd car/commuting car.
The kids absolutely love the car. They like the security of being enclosed with the doors, the mood lighting that can be changed from amber to pink and to blue. They basiclly think it's a "really cool car".
The handling is slightly softer than the standard hatch. Still overly harsh at times, but on motorways it's a competent and smooth cruiser.
I've had a couple of issues: (1) Rust on the first rear barn door where the rubber contacts the door. MINI dealers will often fix cars out of warranty (2) Oil consumption can be high (but within range) but recently this has settled down. There are also possible common R56 type issues for this engine (coking and timing belt). The upright screen is prone to stonechips and the roof gutter can't cope with normal volumes of water and can dump water through an open window when cornering. The seat bolster will wear faster than on normal cars because of the low entry height and the need to lean on it.
If you plan to use a roof rack then buy a car with roof rails otherwise the roof bars that I have are ugly and hard to fit.
MPG is 37mpg - but I drive to/from work at 60mph to listen to music of my choice and at my (high) volume. Hard driving produces low 20's.
vikingaero said:
I've got a 2009 Clubman S Automatic and it's one of the best cars I've had. I prefer the looks to the standard hatchback MINI which, like the Fiat 500, looks too twee. I'm someone who prefers the Estate version of most cars.
I wanted a MINI to replace the 2001 MINI Cooper that I owned for less than a year after the birth of my daughter. The Clubman has a decent amount of rear legroom for them and the deeper boot helps. I don't have a problem with the Clubdoor being on the wrong side - they can still get out of the passenger side and to be honest I don't park on the street that much and it's really my 3rd car/commuting car.
The kids absolutely love the car. They like the security of being enclosed with the doors, the mood lighting that can be changed from amber to pink and to blue. They basiclly think it's a "really cool car".
The handling is slightly softer than the standard hatch. Still overly harsh at times, but on motorways it's a competent and smooth cruiser.
I've had a couple of issues: (1) Rust on the first rear barn door where the rubber contacts the door. MINI dealers will often fix cars out of warranty (2) Oil consumption can be high (but within range) but recently this has settled down. There are also possible common R56 type issues for this engine (coking and timing belt). The upright screen is prone to stonechips and the roof gutter can't cope with normal volumes of water and can dump water through an open window when cornering. The seat bolster will wear faster than on normal cars because of the low entry height and the need to lean on it.
If you plan to use a roof rack then buy a car with roof rails otherwise the roof bars that I have are ugly and hard to fit.
MPG is 37mpg - but I drive to/from work at 60mph to listen to music of my choice and at my (high) volume. Hard driving produces low 20's.
I would second this. I have an early MCS Clubman (2007). I love it.I wanted a MINI to replace the 2001 MINI Cooper that I owned for less than a year after the birth of my daughter. The Clubman has a decent amount of rear legroom for them and the deeper boot helps. I don't have a problem with the Clubdoor being on the wrong side - they can still get out of the passenger side and to be honest I don't park on the street that much and it's really my 3rd car/commuting car.
The kids absolutely love the car. They like the security of being enclosed with the doors, the mood lighting that can be changed from amber to pink and to blue. They basiclly think it's a "really cool car".
The handling is slightly softer than the standard hatch. Still overly harsh at times, but on motorways it's a competent and smooth cruiser.
I've had a couple of issues: (1) Rust on the first rear barn door where the rubber contacts the door. MINI dealers will often fix cars out of warranty (2) Oil consumption can be high (but within range) but recently this has settled down. There are also possible common R56 type issues for this engine (coking and timing belt). The upright screen is prone to stonechips and the roof gutter can't cope with normal volumes of water and can dump water through an open window when cornering. The seat bolster will wear faster than on normal cars because of the low entry height and the need to lean on it.
If you plan to use a roof rack then buy a car with roof rails otherwise the roof bars that I have are ugly and hard to fit.
MPG is 37mpg - but I drive to/from work at 60mph to listen to music of my choice and at my (high) volume. Hard driving produces low 20's.
Only things to watch are the oil consumption and timing chain rattle. Mine uses about 1 litre per 1000 miles.
The popping and rasping from the exhaust is addictive - return to the boy racer in me.
We go on family holidays in it with a MINI sourced roof rails and box. We have two young kids (1 and 5) and it eats everything we need to take. Can be a little awkward getting the kids out the back (especially n ferries - we live on the Isle of Wight!). MPG versus performance is very respectable.
Only disappointment is the standard stereo which I have written about extensively. It can be upgraded but is difficult and costly - maybe I was expecting more after owning earlier MINIs with decent audio.
Mike
spurs coupe said:
Cheers Mike, I keep getting drawn by the cheaper Z4 coupe - isofix front seat, big boot etc. but terrible MPG and in no way a family car. TT Tdi a lot better but still fighting the reality of being a dad!
The mini clubman SD seems to tick all the boxes.
Terrible MPG? I get better economy from my Z4 3.0si than from my previous R56 MCS hatch.The mini clubman SD seems to tick all the boxes.
ocrx8 said:
Terrible MPG? I get better economy from my Z4 3.0si than from my previous R56 MCS hatch.
No offence meantI'm just working on the autotrader stated values
3.0 Z4 coupe - 32.5mpg combined
Cooper SD Clubman - 64.2 mpg combined
The huge gap in performance is obvious too, but as a family and commuting 'barge' I think it is a decent option.
Always happy to hear others' thoughts on high mpg, low 0-60 family cars petrol or diesel.
Cheers
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