RE: Chris Harris video: McLaren P1
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Monty Python said:
GALLARDOGUY said:
Driven it have you?
Ferrari's quote on the issue - "virtually zero turbo lag. The turbos are compact, the turbines have little inertia, and there's a variable boost management system."Remember what they said about the Enzo's weight?
What, may I ask, would you expect them to say?
Streetrod said:
I do not think the Pagani should be classed along side the main three, the reason being this car is likely to have at least a ten year life span. Plus it has no hybrid capability. We can expect a roadster version, plus an F and an R version. The engine is also currently working at its lowest tune. Expect large hikes over the coming years
I was only using the Pagani to illustrate how many of these million quid cars are sellingGALLARDOGUY said:
But the P1 is the only vehicle able to produce 600kgs of downforce, so it is P1 technology producing it.
That's a fairly mundane amount for a proper racing car. I'd be surprised if some road cars don't make similar amounts. I seem to remember the Viper ACR does about that, I think that Gumpert thingy does too. Maybe some of the crazy special edition Zondas - the R does but it's not a road car.Edited by hairykrishna on Sunday 23 February 11:56
The Vambo said:
bubney72 said:
The new Ferrari California T has zero turbo lag due to a very clever technological advancement.
Can someone remind me as to which cars we believe everything the manufacturers say and which ones we slaughter as lies and propaganda?It changes so often.
bubney72 said:
The Vambo said:
bubney72 said:
The new Ferrari California T has zero turbo lag due to a very clever technological advancement.
Can someone remind me as to which cars we believe everything the manufacturers say and which ones we slaughter as lies and propaganda?It changes so often.
GALLARDOGUY said:
Monty Python said:
GALLARDOGUY said:
Driven it have you?
Ferrari's quote on the issue - "virtually zero turbo lag. The turbos are compact, the turbines have little inertia, and there's a variable boost management system."Remember what they said about the Enzo's weight?
What, may I ask, would you expect them to say?
I hope this answers your doubtfulness.
GALLARDOGUY said:
bubney72 said:
The new Ferrari California T has zero turbo lag due to a very clever technological advancement.
Driven it have you?The lag is eliminated by means of an attached electric motor that permanently keeps the turbo spooled up. F1 cars will utilise a similar system this year onward.
bubney72 said:
The turbo has an electric motor attached to it, that keeps it spooled up. Lag is caused by the initial effort required to spool up the turbo. This has now been eliminated by the attached motor. The F1 cars of 2014 will use a similar system.
I hope this answers your doubtfulness.
Where does that info come from - all the info suggests they're low-inertia twin-scroll turbos - there's no mention of any electric motor attached to them.I hope this answers your doubtfulness.
Civpilot said:
bubney72 said:
It's been really bugging me that the P1 reminds me of another car, definitely Japanese. Today I've figured it out. Behold the P1 predecessor
Obvious troll is obvious. Seriously, there isn't even the faintest likeness apart from the colour.
Dagnut said:
Peloton25 said:
No doubt, I'd love to see the footage of the full lap - the preview we got in the 'Yes, of course' video certainly wasn't enough.
Porsche is said to be headed back to the Ring when the weather gets better with yet another revision on the spec of their 918, hoping to improve on their time. Maybe after that happens McLaren will indulge us?
>8^)
ER
..maybe Ron has it on his phone and watches it daily, then practices his best sh!t eating grin in the mirror...all the time readying himself to crush Porsche and Ferrari's fragile ego's with this devastating lap? ..you tell us I don't know what they are playing at? Porsche is said to be headed back to the Ring when the weather gets better with yet another revision on the spec of their 918, hoping to improve on their time. Maybe after that happens McLaren will indulge us?
>8^)
ER
It's seems very simple to me, we are Mclaren, you may remember us from 50 years of Grand Prix excellence we are some some of the best engineers on the planet...look at this amazing car we've made, look what it can do..
t.I don't get those moaning that McLaren have somehow come up short because it's slower than the Veyron Super Sport... So what? Is that really what it's all about. The LF and 918 won't get near the Veyron either but don't doubt for a moment that if ultimate top speed was the target Ferrari, McLaren and Porsche could do it. Their cars are built to a completely different set of parameters to Veyron's original 1000bhp/252mph plus luxuries.
Rich_W said:
How much downforce does the HDF kit add to a F1 for example?
if you have enough money to buy F1 these days (they are going for like..3 mil plus?) you can add a custom active aero kit which won't cost over tenth the price of F1 (yes it will cost 300K because quality engineering costs and they have to test it)it would produce 0 kg of downforce on straights and a few ton of downforce when you let the throttle or turn the wheel, that thing would easily smoke all of P1/918/LaF&Co.
bubney72 said:
GALLARDOGUY said:
bubney72 said:
The new Ferrari California T has zero turbo lag due to a very clever technological advancement.
Driven it have you?The lag is eliminated by means of an attached electric motor that permanently keeps the turbo spooled up. F1 cars will utilise a similar system this year onward.
So when you drove/dreamed/lied/masterbated over a black horse (delete as appropriate) the Cali, did it have e-boosted turbo?
I would love the tech details......
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