RE: Lamborghini Huracan - full story
Discussion
Whilst it's a nice enough looking car, I can't help thinking that the Audi bosses have played things a bit too safe with the design and there's something a bit "same old - same old" about it!
I can't help looking at it without this song in My head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15QngStkp-E
Lamborghini are starting to fall into the trap that Porsche and Aston Martin are in: Too scared to move away from the single standard base design.
Ferrari get knocked on here by many for the designs of their cars, but at least when they come out with a new car it really is a new car, and not just yet another reworking of the old design with a few tweaks added to it!
I can't help looking at it without this song in My head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15QngStkp-E
Lamborghini are starting to fall into the trap that Porsche and Aston Martin are in: Too scared to move away from the single standard base design.
Ferrari get knocked on here by many for the designs of their cars, but at least when they come out with a new car it really is a new car, and not just yet another reworking of the old design with a few tweaks added to it!
4rephill said:
Whilst it's a nice enough looking car, I can't help thinking that the Audi bosses have played things a bit too safe with the design and there's something a bit "same old - same old" about it!
I can't help looking at it without this song in My head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15QngStkp-E
Lamborghini are starting to fall into the trap that Porsche and Aston Martin are in: Too scared to move away from the single standard base design.
Ferrari get knocked on here by many for the designs of their cars, but at least when they come out with a new car it really is a new car, and not just yet another reworking of the old design with a few tweaks added to it!
That's not really true.I can't help looking at it without this song in My head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15QngStkp-E
Lamborghini are starting to fall into the trap that Porsche and Aston Martin are in: Too scared to move away from the single standard base design.
Ferrari get knocked on here by many for the designs of their cars, but at least when they come out with a new car it really is a new car, and not just yet another reworking of the old design with a few tweaks added to it!
This is the evolution of the 'entry' level Ferrari.
Ferrari 308
which then evolved into the Ferrari 328
then a completely new 'ground up' design
Ferrari 348
which then evolved into the F355
Then....a brand new ground up design again in the 360 Modena
which then evolved into the F430
Then we had the completely new ground up design in the shape of the 458 Italia
And I dare say that its successor will be based on the 458 too until a complete new ground up version comes along in 5-6 years time.
Evolving the design saves a lot of money in type approval costs etc and the machines and tooling are already in place and the technicians already have the experience on how to work on them.
BeirutTaxi said:
I really don't get why PH keeps posting Dry Weight? There is no point. The car can not function without fluids.
Ask the Italians; they insist on giving us the dry weight so until we know otherwise that's what we'll go with and make sure that's clear in the spec box and/or copy. It at least allows a like for like comparison by the same measurement without the clouding of other measurements with/without driver, fuel, luggage, etc.I'd agree that it's not ideal as per your point but we'll be transparent where possible and make sure it's clear what figure we're publishing.
Cheers!
Dan
4rephill said:
Whilst it's a nice enough looking car, I can't help thinking that the Audi bosses have played things a bit too safe with the design and there's something a bit "same old - same old" about it!
I can't help looking at it without this song in My head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15QngStkp-E
Lamborghini are starting to fall into the trap that Porsche and Aston Martin are in: Too scared to move away from the single standard base design.
Ferrari get knocked on here by many for the designs of their cars, but at least when they come out with a new car it really is a new car, and not just yet another reworking of the old design with a few tweaks added to it!
I think at this stage there are a limited number of mid engines designs left to explore...cars tend to look the same now because the shape is so functional in providing performanceI can't help looking at it without this song in My head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15QngStkp-E
Lamborghini are starting to fall into the trap that Porsche and Aston Martin are in: Too scared to move away from the single standard base design.
Ferrari get knocked on here by many for the designs of their cars, but at least when they come out with a new car it really is a new car, and not just yet another reworking of the old design with a few tweaks added to it!
Nice looking but to me it seems like it's a Gallardo with a new DSG box / diff and a bit more power. Doesn't feel particularly ground-breaking and it simply isn't going to stand up to the onslaught of the 458 in a group test I don't think.
I'm no Ferrari fan but I think Maranello are going to be pretty confident on this one.
I'm no Ferrari fan but I think Maranello are going to be pretty confident on this one.
Schermerhorn said:
That's not really true..........
I'll agree up to a point that Ferrari have a tradition of evolving their entry level cars for a two generation period (308/328; 348/355; 360/430).However, they do not tend to use an almost identical shape for their entire model range (with the exception of the 308/512 which were similar in basic design), and that's what I'm getting at.
Today, Ferrari's 458 does not have the same basic shape as the FF, the F12 or the California.
Lamborghini are now starting to use the same basic design over their entire range (modifying the top end models by adding some sharper edges and points to the design to make them look more dramatic).
If you look at the Gallardo, the Reventón, the Aventador, the Huracan, they all have basically the same basic design.
Back in the good old days, a new Lamborghini was dramatic, exciting and adventurous, but today it's simply just another re-hash of the same old shape across the range.
4rephill said:
Lamborghini are now starting to use the same basic design over their entire range (modifying the top end models by adding some sharper edges and points to the design to make them look more dramatic).
If you look at the Gallardo, the Reventón, the Aventador, the Huracan, they all have basically the same basic design.
They are owned by Audi, what do we expect. They will become more restrained and more corporate.If you look at the Gallardo, the Reventón, the Aventador, the Huracan, they all have basically the same basic design.
The purists will lament it but it really doesn't matter to Audi. Neither does ultimate performance.
They will sell these to pop stars, loads in the middle east etc and in most cases, owners will have all the competitor vehicles too.
It's just about shifting units.
Ironically, they may end up being better cars as a result. But better supercars, I don't know.
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