RE: BMW X4 confirmed

[ikarl]

I really wish they would stop.

BMW have diluted their brand too much IMO
They used to be a brand a lot of people aspired too.

Now they're just a.n.other car company

[Lowtimer]

Huh? It's obvious that zillions of people aspire to cars like this, otherwise they wouldn't be queueing up to buy them.

I don't like the 3GT/5GT/X4/X6 look at all, but they sell by the shed load. Especially in China.

[anonymous-user]

basically what everyone else said, just another white goods manufacturer now who has pimped out their M division to an embarrassing degree and has chosen a future of more profit with less to be proud of. Fair enough, but not for me.

[Pappagallo]

Oh FFS, that's dreadful.

[Lowtimer]

Polynesian said:

basically what everyone else said, just another white goods manufacturer now who has pimped out their M division to an embarrassing degree and has chosen a future of more profit with less to be proud of. Fair enough, but not for me.

Is there a mass market car company that you think behaves differently? And if it did, could it survive?

Not having a snark, just feeling as if Iam now a niche market that is no longer viable. What I really want from BMW is a brand new E39 5-series - not the equivalent of, but literally a brand new E39 shell, suspension and interior - with the current 335 / 535 turbo six and choice of six-speed manual or the eight-speed slushmatic.

But I think I am going to have to build my own.

Edited by Lowtimer on Thursday 6th March 10:25

[Negative Creep]

Doesn't quite suit my specific needs. I'm going to hold out a few months until they announce the XZ4

[Luca Brasi]

As long as this creates revenue to create some proper BMWs, I don't care what they make.

[Alfa159Ti]

I actually thought this was a joke at first.

[Lowtimer]

Luca Brasi said:

As long as this creates revenue to create some proper BMWs, I don't care what they make.

I would agree with that (same with Porsche and the new Cayman basically funded by selling SUVs) but I'm not really seeing any of what I regard as "real BMWs" at all in the new models, which is why I keep buying old ones.

The i8 might be good. Let's hope so

[toppstuff]

I like BMW's.

My wife has a bad back from a ski injury and olympic shenanigans leaping off the top of the wardrobe, so she prefers a higher driving position and refuses to drive cars that are too low down and force the legs to be straighter.

So she's gonna want one of these.

Fine by me.

[Alfa159Ti]

Just had a closer inspection. Holy crap that thing is vile. Looks like someone has picked up an old 5 Series GT and crushed it a bit like a consortina. Repulsively, staggeringly ugly.

I suppose at least now we have time to mentally prepare for the innevitable arrival of the X2.

[Leptons]

I just can't get my head around the design and tooling costs for all these new/pointless models BMW and Audi are bringing out.

[delays]

Even as a car guy, I'm losing track of BMW's model range and strategy.

A case of hyper-niching, I think, much like Mercedes a few years back. And we all loved the R-Class.

[kiteless]

[kwak]

Is the top picture squashed horizontally, or does it really look like that?

[Clivey]

I understand the point of a vehicle that can get along rough, unpaved roads etc. etc. and at the same time is "sporty" to drive (especially in countries like China and Russia where although most of the big cities are concrete jungles, there are many places where you'd appreciate the extra clearance & AWD)...but does it have to look like this? The original X5 is a million times better looking.



On another note; it's a shame JLR won't shoehorn their 3.0-litre sixes (petrol & diesel) into the Evoque.

[anonymous-user]

Lowtimer said:

Polynesian said:

basically what everyone else said, just another white goods manufacturer now who has pimped out their M division to an embarrassing degree and has chosen a future of more profit with less to be proud of. Fair enough, but not for me.

Is there a mass market car company that you think behaves differently? And if it did, could it survive?

Not having a snark, just feeling as if Iam now a niche market that is no longer viable. What I really want from BMW is a brand new E39 5-series - not the equivalent of, but literally a brand new E39 shell, suspension and interior - with the current 335 / 535 turbo six and choice of six-speed manual or the eight-speed slushmatic.

But I think I am going to have to build my own.

you got it exactly. That 5 sounds great, and most days I think about the 8 speed ZF in my E46 Alpina... Take all the good stuff and leave all the nonsense. A bit like an Eagle E type but with modern saloons. 27 of us would probably even buy one!

[Mermaid]

I hope BMW are forced to discount heavily, having seen the reaction on PH's.

I'll buy one then.

[zeppelin101]

Clivey said:

On another note; it's a shame JLR won't shoehorn their 3.0-litre sixes (petrol & diesel) into the Evoque.

It's physically impossible.

[veevee]

Simond S said:

Ignoring the "ugly stick" comments which I truly don't understand, the X6 is a remarkable car. It seems to suffer from JC not liking it and everyone jumping on the same bandwagon. The rear window may slope, but so do all coupes. If viewed as a coupe with superb visibility, great handling and obscene power it just makes sense.

Edited by Simond S on Thursday 6th March 10:40

But it's NOT A COUPE.