Bugatti Veyron as a daily driver?

Bugatti Veyron as a daily driver?

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robinessex

11,077 posts

182 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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The ONLY way a wheel would be 'worn out' (fatigue life used up) in 7,500 miles is if you did all those miles at 250mph. Assuming the wheel stress follows a square law, each halving of the speed would increase the wheel mileage by a factor of 4. So:-

MPH Wheel Mileage
250 7,500
125 30,000
61.5 120,000
31.25 480,000

Ditto tyre life as well

Leptons

5,116 posts

177 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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Silent1 said:
There was a brilliant thread on here by sdmc (iirc or it was similar) where he bought a repossessed veyron and ran it for cheap, he had new wheels made so the could use cheaper tyres and iirc serviced it at his own garage, he still sold it for a profit a few years later!
Link?

Jimmy No Hands

5,011 posts

157 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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Leptons said:
Link?
x2!

pimping

759 posts

175 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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Leptons said:
Link?
I would be very interested in reading all about that too. Hopefully it compares well to my chevy lacetti and citroen c5 (sigh).

007 VXR

64,187 posts

188 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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Cant see you getting much out of the insurance company if something went wrong at 250mph+
And they checked and found you had not changed the wheels and tyres as required by Bugatti ?

Wills2

22,957 posts

176 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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007 VXR said:
Cant see you getting much out of the insurance company if something went wrong at 250mph+
And they checked and found you had not changed the wheels and tyres as required by Bugatti ?
If it all went wrong at 250mph+ I doubt you'd be around to be bothered.

Silent1

19,761 posts

236 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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pimping said:
Leptons said:
Link?
I would be very interested in reading all about that too. Hopefully it compares well to my chevy lacetti and citroen c5 (sigh).
So it was smdg who owned eb06 bug but it appears all his posts have been deleted and the thread about the car, I can only find references to the thread now.

yzrh

171 posts

123 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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They lost money on every one they sold, they had to make some money back somehow, so probably chose servicing and warranties as the easiest source of after-sale income.

Jimmy No Hands

5,011 posts

157 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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yzrh said:
They lost money on every one they sold, they had to make some money back somehow, so probably chose servicing and warranties as the easiest source of after-sale income.
rolleyes

Thankyou4calling

10,616 posts

174 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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Jimmy No Hands said:
rolleyes
He clearly has access to the VW accounts.


yzrh

171 posts

123 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/smart-f...
The source for the loss on each car being Bernstein Research.


For the rest you only need a double digit IQ to realise that the only certain source of after sales income to limit losses per car is on the servicing, deliveries, parts, etc.

And if you are wondering why they are limiting losses approaching £4m per car, being a subsidiary of a Frankfurt listed international company, then you probably didn't meet the double digit IQ criteria.

Tango13

8,463 posts

177 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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Eighteeteewhy said:
s p a c e m a n said:
Just tried Ebay

0 results found for veyron alternator

frown
Try Gumtree biggrin
I think I've got a couple kicking about at the back of the garage somewhere, I'll have a look later smile

Art0ir

9,402 posts

171 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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Do any the current batch of hyper cars have similar replacement cycles?

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

171 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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yzrh said:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/smart-f...
The source for the loss on each car being Bernstein Research.


For the rest you only need a double digit IQ to realise that the only certain source of after sales income to limit losses per car is on the servicing, deliveries, parts, etc.

And if you are wondering why they are limiting losses approaching £4m per car, being a subsidiary of a Frankfurt listed international company, then you probably didn't meet the double digit IQ criteria.
Top man

thumbup


Oh, and i quote:

" the car was a technical showcase for the VW Group".

Next.

yzrh

171 posts

123 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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Alucidnation said:
yzrh said:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/smart-f...
The source for the loss on each car being Bernstein Research.


For the rest you only need a double digit IQ to realise that the only certain source of after sales income to limit losses per car is on the servicing, deliveries, parts, etc.

And if you are wondering why they are limiting losses approaching £4m per car, being a subsidiary of a Frankfurt listed international company, then you probably didn't meet the double digit IQ criteria.
Top man

thumbup


Oh, and i quote:

" the car was a technical showcase for the VW Group".

Next.
True, however once you sell 400 of such 'technical showcases' ( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/car-manufactur... ), then you really do have to start thinking about how to limit losses.

Similar story with the, albeit more mainstream, Phaeton.

martynr

1,110 posts

175 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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007 VXR said:
IIRC Top Gear rolleyes said each one cost 5M to make. Probs were it started .. laugh
And there was only one made for him to test it... And they would never make another one...

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

199 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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yzrh said:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/smart-f...
The source for the loss on each car being Bernstein Research.


For the rest you only need a double digit IQ to realise that the only certain source of after sales income to limit losses per car is on the servicing, deliveries, parts, etc.

And if you are wondering why they are limiting losses approaching £4m per car, being a subsidiary of a Frankfurt listed international company, then you probably didn't meet the double digit IQ criteria.
Depends on what you mean by loss. The bug brings many hard to quantify benefits to VAG - think in terms of dollars back to US economy during and after the space race despite the colossal investment.

strudel

5,888 posts

228 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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So these losses per car - are they based on investment vs return values, averaged out per car constructed, or based on the construction cost of each car vs the selling price? I suspect the former somehow, which is completely different to "losing 3m per car".

Monty Zoomer

1,459 posts

158 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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Silent1 said:
pimping said:
Leptons said:
Link?
I would be very interested in reading all about that too. Hopefully it compares well to my chevy lacetti and citroen c5 (sigh).
So it was smdg who owned eb06 bug but it appears all his posts have been deleted and the thread about the car, I can only find references to the thread now.
What are the references to the thread that you can find?

Tango13

8,463 posts

177 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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Tango13 said:
Eighteeteewhy said:
s p a c e m a n said:
Just tried Ebay

0 results found for veyron alternator

frown
Try Gumtree biggrin
I think I've got a couple kicking about at the back of the garage somewhere, I'll have a look later smile
Sorry, turns out they were from an EB110 getmecoat