Supercars spotted, some rarities (vol 6)
Discussion
br d said:
Of course!
But that isn't the point, I sometimes have chav plates and sometimes not. The reason it gets on my goat is nobody ever says "Oh, in my eyes it spoils it" or "If you ask me it ruins it", it's always a self important, holier than thou "WELL THAT'S A GOOD CAR RUINED!!!!".
Only for you it's ruined and that's fine but why oh why oh why are people on such a high horse about something that doesn't affect them.
If you bought x model of car and specced it in an unusual colour because that is your personal preference I wouldn't say "Oh well that's a nice car ruined then", I might say I don't like the colour but who the hell would I think I am if I started telling you you've "ruined" your car?
Yes yes it's just shouty internet nonsense I know but it grinds my gears.
In my view the car isn't ruined by the plate, it can't be, but I do think the owner is a tit for putting a crap and more importantly illegal plate on a beautiful car.But that isn't the point, I sometimes have chav plates and sometimes not. The reason it gets on my goat is nobody ever says "Oh, in my eyes it spoils it" or "If you ask me it ruins it", it's always a self important, holier than thou "WELL THAT'S A GOOD CAR RUINED!!!!".
Only for you it's ruined and that's fine but why oh why oh why are people on such a high horse about something that doesn't affect them.
If you bought x model of car and specced it in an unusual colour because that is your personal preference I wouldn't say "Oh well that's a nice car ruined then", I might say I don't like the colour but who the hell would I think I am if I started telling you you've "ruined" your car?
Yes yes it's just shouty internet nonsense I know but it grinds my gears.
br d said:
Butter Face said:
jshell said:
Trevatanus said:
One of the many supercars spotted at Virginia Water yesterday, took this ( or rather my passenger did) on the Egham bypass.
Poor quality, but highly cropped.
Untitled by Jim Pritchard, on Flickr
...and a stunning car ruined with a sPoor quality, but highly cropped.
Untitled by Jim Pritchard, on Flickr
tty chav-plate!!Because the person who owns the car clearly doesn't think it ruins it, that's why they have it on their car.
You are clearly entitled to your opinion but you make the mistake of projecting that opinion onto reality. The owner has paid for the car and enjoys driving the car, you have done neither. For him or her the car isn't "ruined" just because a stranger on the internet thinks it is.
Their car, their taste, their plate. I still reserve the right to say it looks utterly rank, and if they were stood in front of me asking 'what do you think of my plate/car?' I wouldn't be afraid to hurt their feelings by saying'the car is awesome, the plate is crap (IMO)'
Davey S2 said:
mikey k said:
Not having the CF really hits the residuals on these 
But presumably you were £50K better off for not having specced loads of CF in the first place?
But too many buyers are flipping them and those that didn't spec up are struggling to move them.
I opted out of lashing of CF on my 650 and I personally think it looks better for it.
My dealer isn't bothered about that on a 650 but won't touch an LT with no CF packs or standard seats.
mikey k said:
My dealer isn't bothered about that on a 650 but won't touch an LT with no CF packs or standard seats.
I find it hilarious/very sad (delete as applicable depending on what side of bed I got out of) that the aesthetic spec on supercars can have such an impact on saleability. Surely they all drive the same and will turn heads no matter what if well designed? When/if (please let it be when) this "flipping" phase (pun intentional) is over, could the options market could take a hit and drive up base model costs to compensate? Or will it never end?! I know that it's a perfectly legal and logical business process to "flip" for profit, but it doesn't mean that I have to like it.
McAndy said:
mikey k said:
My dealer isn't bothered about that on a 650 but won't touch an LT with no CF packs or standard seats.
I find it hilarious/very sad (delete as applicable depending on what side of bed I got out of) that the aesthetic spec on supercars can have such an impact on saleability. Surely they all drive the same and will turn heads no matter what if well designed? When/if (please let it be when) this "flipping" phase (pun intentional) is over, could the options market could take a hit and drive up base model costs to compensate? Or will it never end?! I know that it's a perfectly legal and logical business process to "flip" for profit, but it doesn't mean that I have to like it.
NRS said:
McAndy said:
mikey k said:
My dealer isn't bothered about that on a 650 but won't touch an LT with no CF packs or standard seats.
I find it hilarious/very sad (delete as applicable depending on what side of bed I got out of) that the aesthetic spec on supercars can have such an impact on saleability. Surely they all drive the same and will turn heads no matter what if well designed? When/if (please let it be when) this "flipping" phase (pun intentional) is over, could the options market could take a hit and drive up base model costs to compensate? Or will it never end?! I know that it's a perfectly legal and logical business process to "flip" for profit, but it doesn't mean that I have to like it.
Why do you think Ferrari has their list of favoured people?
Not that it stops the ones on the list in the first place but still.
neilbauer said:
Not really a supercar, but love the old school look of the new targa.
Drive past it on way to work, Bramley cars.
They feel heavy and sluggish......great for posing but not much else-
on a twisty open country road there are many other cars I'd prefer to be driving
that are a lot cheaper to buy.
McAndy said:
I find it hilarious/very sad (delete as applicable depending on what side of bed I got out of) that the aesthetic spec on supercars can have such an impact on saleability. Surely they all drive the same and will turn heads no matter what if well designed? When/if (please let it be when) this "flipping" phase (pun intentional) is over, could the options market could take a hit and drive up base model costs to compensate? Or will it never end?!
Preaching to the convertedI know that it's a perfectly legal and logical business process to "flip" for profit, but it doesn't mean that I have to like it.
I couldn't get on the LT list
I looked at buying a flippers cars but A refused to pay twice my 650 value and B couldn't find one in a spec that worked for me because everyone specced loads of CF and track day options
It pisses me off the number of "drivers" cars that site around unused and VAT qualifying so the flippers can make a bit more money
I wish they'ed go and put their money elsewhere
david hockney said:
neilbauer said:
Not really a supercar, but love the old school look of the new targa.
Drive past it on way to work, Bramley cars.
Anything decent in there these days?
mikey k said:
McAndy said:
I find it hilarious/very sad (delete as applicable depending on what side of bed I got out of) that the aesthetic spec on supercars can have such an impact on saleability. Surely they all drive the same and will turn heads no matter what if well designed? When/if (please let it be when) this "flipping" phase (pun intentional) is over, could the options market could take a hit and drive up base model costs to compensate? Or will it never end?!
Preaching to the convertedI know that it's a perfectly legal and logical business process to "flip" for profit, but it doesn't mean that I have to like it.
I couldn't get on the LT list
I looked at buying a flippers cars but A refused to pay twice my 650 value and B couldn't find one in a spec that worked for me because everyone specced loads of CF and track day options
It pisses me off the number of "drivers" cars that site around unused and VAT qualifying so the flippers can make a bit more money
I wish they'ed go and put their money elsewhere
Blown2CV said:
Just sounds like "you've got more than me and i hate you for it" sour grapes.
Nope. Well wide of the mark. I have no problem with those who do as you suggested:Blown2CV said:
...buying a long waiting list/ltd edition car, driving it for a year and selling it at a profit.
What I don't like is people who purchase solely to make profit, not driving the machine at all. They are taking no enjoyment from the raison d'être of a car, which is built for driving. Everybody has a different moral compass, which I fully appreciate (wouldn't life be dull if we were all the same etc. etc.); mine happens to point in a different direction to those who prevent sales to enthusiasts purely for profit, simultaneously pushing the enthusiasts potentially just able to afford them at list price out of the ownership loop altogether as prices rise.But anyway, I'm sure that this has been discussed many times and in appropriate threads, so I'll mark "off-topic" once more and duck out so things can get back on track.
McAndy said:
Blown2CV said:
Just sounds like "you've got more than me and i hate you for it" sour grapes.
Nope. Well wide of the mark. I have no problem with those who do as you suggested:Blown2CV said:
...buying a long waiting list/ltd edition car, driving it for a year and selling it at a profit.
What I don't like is people who purchase solely to make profit, not driving the machine at all. They are taking no enjoyment from the raison d'être of a car, which is built for driving. Everybody has a different moral compass, which I fully appreciate (wouldn't life be dull if we were all the same etc. etc.); mine happens to point in a different direction to those who prevent sales to enthusiasts purely for profit, simultaneously pushing the enthusiasts potentially just able to afford them at list price out of the ownership loop altogether as prices rise.But anyway, I'm sure that this has been discussed many times and in appropriate threads, so I'll mark "off-topic" once more and duck out so things can get back on track.
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