Supercars spotted, some rarities (vol 6)

Supercars spotted, some rarities (vol 6)

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NRS

22,079 posts

200 months

Wednesday 21st December 2016
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F1GTRUeno said:
NRS said:
McAndy said:
mikey k said:
My dealer isn't bothered about that on a 650 but won't touch an LT with no CF packs or standard seats.
I find it hilarious/very sad (delete as applicable depending on what side of bed I got out of) that the aesthetic spec on supercars can have such an impact on saleability. Surely they all drive the same and will turn heads no matter what if well designed? When/if (please let it be when) this "flipping" phase (pun intentional) is over, could the options market could take a hit and drive up base model costs to compensate? Or will it never end?! frown

I know that it's a perfectly legal and logical business process to "flip" for profit, but it doesn't mean that I have to like it.
It will end at some point - when either the next recession hits or interest rates start going up enough then the market will re-adjust downwards.
They've been flipping cars since the dawn of time.

Why do you think Ferrari has their list of favoured people?

Not that it stops the ones on the list in the first place but still.
It would come back again later, but this current situation will "pop" at some point, then there will be a bunch of people screwed who bought at the top and will try and bail out of purchases (repeat of 90s). Then it will be low and stable for a while before starting again. There's nothing new under the sun and all that.

isaldiri

18,411 posts

167 months

Wednesday 21st December 2016
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mikey k said:
McAndy said:
I find it hilarious/very sad (delete as applicable depending on what side of bed I got out of) that the aesthetic spec on supercars can have such an impact on saleability. Surely they all drive the same and will turn heads no matter what if well designed? When/if (please let it be when) this "flipping" phase (pun intentional) is over, could the options market could take a hit and drive up base model costs to compensate? Or will it never end?! frown

I know that it's a perfectly legal and logical business process to "flip" for profit, but it doesn't mean that I have to like it.
Preaching to the converted
I couldn't get on the LT list
I looked at buying a flippers cars but A refused to pay twice my 650 value and B couldn't find one in a spec that worked for me because everyone specced loads of CF and track day options frown
It pisses me off the number of "drivers" cars that site around unused and VAT qualifying so the flippers can make a bit more money banghead
I wish they'ed go and put their money elsewhere wink
Are you sure you tried hard enough to get a 675...? for the coupe the order book was open for a decently long time. And it wasn't rocket science to figure out Mclaren would release a spider either given the mumurings from Woking not so long after either.

As far as I have heard CF hasn't had a disproportionate impact on cars selling. It's simply a question of where they are priced and people without heaps of CF simply need to bear that in mind when pricing cars against others being for sale that might have a lot more. CF parts are ultimately quite easily retrofitted. Bucket seats are much less so and are the really important one to have picked imo.

Blown2CV

28,697 posts

202 months

Wednesday 21st December 2016
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NRS said:
F1GTRUeno said:
NRS said:
McAndy said:
mikey k said:
My dealer isn't bothered about that on a 650 but won't touch an LT with no CF packs or standard seats.
I find it hilarious/very sad (delete as applicable depending on what side of bed I got out of) that the aesthetic spec on supercars can have such an impact on saleability. Surely they all drive the same and will turn heads no matter what if well designed? When/if (please let it be when) this "flipping" phase (pun intentional) is over, could the options market could take a hit and drive up base model costs to compensate? Or will it never end?! frown

I know that it's a perfectly legal and logical business process to "flip" for profit, but it doesn't mean that I have to like it.
It will end at some point - when either the next recession hits or interest rates start going up enough then the market will re-adjust downwards.
They've been flipping cars since the dawn of time.

Why do you think Ferrari has their list of favoured people?

Not that it stops the ones on the list in the first place but still.
It would come back again later, but this current situation will "pop" at some point, then there will be a bunch of people screwed who bought at the top and will try and bail out of purchases (repeat of 90s). Then it will be low and stable for a while before starting again. There's nothing new under the sun and all that.
why do people believe this is a new car phenomenon? Has anyone been looking at classic values recently???

NRS

22,079 posts

200 months

Wednesday 21st December 2016
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Blown2CV said:
why do people believe this is a new car phenomenon? Has anyone been looking at classic values recently???
Hm? No one said it was? It's the entire (potentially) collectible market that is high. I don't think I've ever seen anyone say it's a new car phenomenon anywhere, as classics clearly have gone up in value by insane amounts.

epom

11,398 posts

160 months

Wednesday 21st December 2016
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I ain't no Mod, but take your discussions elsewhere please or post some pics. Cheers.

Penfolds

920 posts

176 months

Friday 23rd December 2016
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Some pics,








DoubleD

22,154 posts

107 months

Friday 23rd December 2016
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Wow great pictures

pLiDeX

45 posts

134 months

Friday 23rd December 2016
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How lucky you have to be to casually encounter a Veneno. If wikipedia is correct, just 3 coupes and 9 roadsters built.

MattHall91

1,268 posts

123 months

Friday 23rd December 2016
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pLiDeX said:
How lucky you have to be to casually encounter a Veneno. If wikipedia is correct, just 3 coupes and 9 roadsters built.
It was brought to HR Owen to show there as that has been the best performing dealership.

Penfolds

920 posts

176 months

Friday 23rd December 2016
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pLiDeX said:
How lucky you have to be to casually encounter a Veneno. If wikipedia is correct, just 3 coupes and 9 roadsters built.
Not too lucky if you're outside the Lambo Dealer whistle

Voxy

1,356 posts

172 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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Penfolds said:
Some pics...
And great pics, as always...

DannyScene

6,596 posts

154 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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Penfolds - Do you still hide your watermarks?
Always passes time in the office searching for them, Struggling to find them on the latest pictures though

NM62

952 posts

149 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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DannyScene said:
Penfolds - Do you still hide your watermarks?
Always passes time in the office searching for them, Struggling to find them on the latest pictures though
They are there thumbup .. Yet another Great set Penfolds - as always stunning.

ETA The watermark on Pagani was difficult and had to resort to zoom cheat.

Edited by NM62 on Saturday 24th December 09:14

Yipper

5,964 posts

89 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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Veneno is one of the world's rarest and most expensive modern cars. Good spot.

RoadRunner220

940 posts

192 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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NM62 said:
ETA The watermark on Pagani was difficult and had to resort to zoom cheat.
That's the only one I was unable to find.

F1GTRUeno

6,335 posts

217 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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The colour on that P1 is beautiful.

Great pictures as ever Alex!

andrew

9,953 posts

191 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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Penfolds said:
Some pics,







gotta love a bit of wing thumbup

Rich_W

12,548 posts

211 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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DannyScene said:
Penfolds - Do you still hide your watermarks?
Always passes time in the office searching for them, Struggling to find them on the latest pictures though
Lambo. Vertical under the traffic light
Aston. Above the end of the wall by the black railing
McLaren. Brick in the wall

Zonda. Not a clue


WRT to the Zonda. Not sure if that's the owners residence, but surely it would be better garaged than stuck outside in the elements?

Edited by Rich_W on Saturday 24th December 13:48

Doofus

25,732 posts

172 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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Rich_W said:
Zonda. Not a clue
Above rear wing, next to drainpipe

Blown2CV

28,697 posts

202 months

Saturday 24th December 2016
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the watermark location game is the least fun part of this thread
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