RE: Porsche Cayenne Diesel S: Review
Discussion
Rickpw1 said:
I have an 07 Cayenne S, 4.8 petrol and am totally converted even with 18mpg.
Just working on the man maths now to see if the 30mpg of this diesel will allow me to change to this...
Love them or hate them they are fast and definitely Porsche DNA!
39 in the v6 Just working on the man maths now to see if the 30mpg of this diesel will allow me to change to this...
Love them or hate them they are fast and definitely Porsche DNA!
(well maybe not with your lead boots!!!)Just a quick note on profitability, etc.
"You might think of popular vehicles such as the Cayenne SUV or the less expensive Cayman sports car as being Porsche's profit drivers. But the high-priced 911 more than carries its own weight, according to Bernstein Research.
Developed on a "tiny budget" and virtually unchanged during the last two generations, "the 911 is outrageously profitable," Bernstein's Warburton writes. Some versions -- such as the 911 Turbo -- earn gross profits of over 75%, he estimates, in an industry where 5% is considered good." from http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2011/autos/1111/gal...
"You might think of popular vehicles such as the Cayenne SUV or the less expensive Cayman sports car as being Porsche's profit drivers. But the high-priced 911 more than carries its own weight, according to Bernstein Research.
Developed on a "tiny budget" and virtually unchanged during the last two generations, "the 911 is outrageously profitable," Bernstein's Warburton writes. Some versions -- such as the 911 Turbo -- earn gross profits of over 75%, he estimates, in an industry where 5% is considered good." from http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2011/autos/1111/gal...
Davey S2 said:
Err yes because they will stop time after time without fade which is useful in a 2 tonne car.
maybe if you are using it on track or heavy use on the road..very heavy use...apart from that they are actually a hindrance as they take longer to get up to optimum operating temperature.Accidents that occur close to the home, most happen in the early hours in cold temperatures when you least need to be worrying about brake temperatures..and the fact that this is supposed to be a family car what is the point?
HertsBiker said:
Panjy, in everyday situations driving an SUV feels a lot better than a low down car. I'm talking about traffic jams, motorway crawl, undesirable urban roads with dodgy characters, or even just pot holed and speed bump ridden streets. On a track obviously a sports car is the business. Or even a nice quiet country road... But everywhere else the SUV is a great idea.
All true. I've had 911's and the like, and as daily drivers they eventually become a bit of a ball ache. Never thought I'd say it, but after test driving one, I now much prefer wafting around in my V6 Cayenne d.
IrishAsal said:
Just a quick note on profitability, etc.
"You might think of popular vehicles such as the Cayenne SUV or the less expensive Cayman sports car as being Porsche's profit drivers. But the high-priced 911 more than carries its own weight, according to Bernstein Research.
Developed on a "tiny budget" and virtually unchanged during the last two generations, "the 911 is outrageously profitable," Bernstein's Warburton writes. Some versions -- such as the 911 Turbo -- earn gross profits of over 75%, he estimates, in an industry where 5% is considered good." from http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2011/autos/1111/gal...
"You might think of popular vehicles such as the Cayenne SUV or the less expensive Cayman sports car as being Porsche's profit drivers. But the high-priced 911 more than carries its own weight, according to Bernstein Research.
Developed on a "tiny budget" and virtually unchanged during the last two generations, "the 911 is outrageously profitable," Bernstein's Warburton writes. Some versions -- such as the 911 Turbo -- earn gross profits of over 75%, he estimates, in an industry where 5% is considered good." from http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2011/autos/1111/gal...
IrishAsal said:
Just a quick note on profitability, etc.
"You might think of popular vehicles such as the Cayenne SUV or the less expensive Cayman sports car as being Porsche's profit drivers. But the high-priced 911 more than carries its own weight, according to Bernstein Research.
Developed on a "tiny budget" and virtually unchanged during the last two generations, "the 911 is outrageously profitable," Bernstein's Warburton writes. Some versions -- such as the 911 Turbo -- earn gross profits of over 75%, he estimates, in an industry where 5% is considered good." from http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2011/autos/1111/gal...
Interesting. Thanka. Its a Smaller volume though I guess - if you can sell the big uns to more people more of the time and make more cash for shareholders, why not."You might think of popular vehicles such as the Cayenne SUV or the less expensive Cayman sports car as being Porsche's profit drivers. But the high-priced 911 more than carries its own weight, according to Bernstein Research.
Developed on a "tiny budget" and virtually unchanged during the last two generations, "the 911 is outrageously profitable," Bernstein's Warburton writes. Some versions -- such as the 911 Turbo -- earn gross profits of over 75%, he estimates, in an industry where 5% is considered good." from http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2011/autos/1111/gal...
Love the Cayenne. Didn't like them until I drove one years ago - totally transformed my view.
Loving all 4x4s in general these days, big ol comfy things, or funky off road hardcore jobbies! Ace!
The funny thing is how anyone that's driven a Cayenne has come away deeply impressed, regardless of their preference for sports cars or if they'd prefer a RR for the same money. The ones that hate on it are usually the ones who've never been in or driven one. Besides, if you can have/want a 2 car garage for family duties and weekend hooning, you could have a boxster/cayman/911 and an old model cayenne from what 20k?
Splash out a bit more and instead of one of these: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...
you could have this: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
AND this: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
with change. Yes there's borkage potentail and the fuel for Cayenne will make you cry but you can justify that to yourselves later...
Splash out a bit more and instead of one of these: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...
you could have this: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
AND this: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
with change. Yes there's borkage potentail and the fuel for Cayenne will make you cry but you can justify that to yourselves later...
cayman-black said:
I do like this cayenne but when it comes down to buying a 4x4 i still think i would choose the RRS. IMO its more refined and luxurious , plus i like the way that RRs make you drive in a very relaxed manor, i.e slower than iam sure i would in the cayenne.
+1 with C-B here ... exactly the way I find my driving when in the RRS with the Family................its a different mode to driving a Sports car.I personally prefer the old Cayenne style , either GTS or Turbo versions,the new one is a bit too rounded & dare i say it, a bit ' Feminine' for an SUV..!!
although this Diesel S might grow on me in time & with a better body style, as the engine torque figures are exceptional.
I considered a GTS or a RRS for a long time ,i loved the Cayenne ( drove them all at Leipzig track , on & off road, and they are equally impressive in either condition ) but the Command position of the RRS and the utility of it , had me the moment I test drove it, its a relaxing vehickle to drive .....i dont feel as if i cannot leave it without worrying about it either!!
The RRS overall is a bit agricultural,the engine sounds like a diesel on start up all in all , its a great machine and an impressive vehicle, will go anywhere ( almost ) build quality inside is good and although its not a "Porsche' the engineering is pretty good, sounds good in TDV8 form!
I find it a bit disconcerting all the negative comments regarding SUv's and why people buy them, as
Ultimately we all have different needs and tastes and if we didnt all like different cars we would all have the same old square tin boxes with no 'Soul' whatsover, at least in the modern world there is a car for everyones tastes, Some people even like French cars for goodness sake !!
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Actually ended up buying one (with PTV). Only had it a few weeks, but like it. It feels bigger than the old one (I know it is longer, but feels wider too). It has reasonable poke, but not as much as the old (1st generation) Turbo S (to be expected I guess). Steering feel is not as sensitive as in the old Turbo S (despite 21 inch tyres on the Diesel S), but it feels quite good for an SUV in corners on B-roads. maybe thats the PTV. I have not worked out if I can turn to the PTV off yet to compare. Moving rear seats is a plus, as it being able to fold them without taking the head-rests off, which was always a pain in the old one. Getting just under 10litres/100 kilometres at the moment, which is OK I guess. Still getting used ot the car, but in general quite pleased.
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