RE: Porsche 911 50 Years Edition: Review

[Clivey]

anonymous said:

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Yes; the 997 is noticeably larger than the 996, however it's the 991's proportions that don't look as good to me. - Moving the engine forwards and adding to the wheelbase gives the impression that the 911 is slowly losing it's character and is creeping towards just being "another" blob of car. The point of a 911 is it's quirks; attempting to sanitise it and make it more like every other generobox on the road, whilst it may be good for short term profits, will destroy the 911 eventually.

If Porsche want to make an entirely different car, they should. As it stands, I predict that the next gen will be turbo+hybrid+2 pedals only. At 25 I'm not old...but I have to say that I'm not looking forward to the future of performance cars (if in the future they'll be allowed at all) as it stands at the moment. The journos may be continually frothing over the "latest and greatest" but I fear a lot of that's just because they rely on the hype to survive.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I am almost certain that on British roads, without putting myself either in the ground or the pokey, I'd have more fun and a more thrilling drive in an old air-cooled model than any 911 since...and in times where driving fast is demonised, surely performance figures etc. become ever more irrelevant?

[Clivey]

anonymous said:

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Precisely. As I said: I'm not hopeful...well, except that maybe some of the truly great performance cars will become less desirable to the magpies and subsequently depreciate to a level that I can afford.

[WCZ]

drove a 991 and a 997 gts back to back, hated the 991, loved the gts

[Carl_Docklands]

anonymous said:

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There are no 50Year shots of the rear and sun-roof available, I wonder why!

[av185]

WCZ said:

drove a 991 and a 997 gts back to back, hated the 991, loved the gts

Another + for the 997 GTS......people are slowly but surely waking up to these...perfect size, perfect hydraulic steering and with 408 bhp enough na power....

Personally I enjoy driving it (2wd of course) as much as any 911 and would actually prefer it over a 458....

Also much praised by Attwood, PEC driver....

[MycroftWard]

I really like the look of it, the 911 is a sleek shape and the details are pretty neat (apart from the badging maybe). Plus a powerful, revvy NA motor with a stick shift, thumbs up from me.

[SFO]

Goofnik said:

I'm American, so decided to check for giggles.

If you take taxes out of the equation, it's sliiiightly cheaper in the UK (and you have the option of the carbon fiber sport bucket seats!).

thank you for busting the myth that UK cars are expensive!

[Clivey]

SFO said:

thank you for busting the myth that UK cars are expensive!

Erm...for more everyday stuff they are (well, new cars anyway). - The 300BHP Impala I drove when I was last there was less than £17K list...never mind what they pay for a Mustang compared to what we will when they get launched here.

[Wills2]

Carl_Docklands said:

I don't know Wills, I live in hope of some additional Stuttgart special sauce.

Porsche need a car to compete with Mclaren, Jaguar and the new R8, this 991 is not it.

That's interesting as the 991 C4S is bob on the R8 in terms of price and performance, the McLaren is in another place 200k+ and I just don't think the Jag will hurt the 911. (but then I'm not a Jag fan so perhaps that's just a biased comment)

[Carl_Docklands]

Wills2 said:

Carl_Docklands said:

I don't know Wills, I live in hope of some additional Stuttgart special sauce.

Porsche need a car to compete with Mclaren, Jaguar and the new R8, this 991 is not it.

That's interesting as the 991 C4S is bob on the R8 in terms of price and performance, the McLaren is in another place 200k+ and I just don't think the Jag will hurt the 911. (but then I'm not a Jag fan so perhaps that's just a biased comment)

Yeah fair points against those cars, I was referring to the new R8 and Mclaren car's which are incoming, we will see them break cover in 2014 and will probably go head to head with the Gen2 991 in 2015.

The sucker punch from Mclaren on the 991 (and you could argue, ferrari california) is incoming, we just need to wait a little, that is why the 650S has been boosted even further in terms of power and price tag and the facelift was so severe, it now leaves room for a 500hp V8 Mclaren model based on a detuned Mp4-12c with the 650S nose. I will cost as much as a Turbo S, few will care about that.

The Gallardo launch gets priority but the R8 V8 and V10 models are more than likely already ready for the road and will probably look alot like the current R8 albeit with cutting edge internals.

All these cars will be more than quick enough so the 991's speed and efficiency advantages won't be enough this time around, they'll need to work on the 991's va-va-voom in order to compete against these new cars.

Edited by Carl_Docklands on Wednesday 2nd April 18:48

[Wills2]

Ah I see!

[okie592]

Why is it the same colour as spunk?


Vauxhall do a corsa in this weird off white cream and it just looks like cum

Makes a change from white I suppose

[Zumbruk]

Those wheels are nasty, nasty, nasty.