RE: Mercedes C63 AMG Edition 507: PH Fleet

RE: Mercedes C63 AMG Edition 507: PH Fleet

Wednesday 2nd April 2014

Mercedes C63 AMG Edition 507: PH Fleet

We thought we'd say an extended farewell to one of our favourite V8s in suitably PH style



There are many reasons I wish I currently had means to buy a C63 AMG wagon*. The main one being the C63 AMG wagon currently residing on my driveway. That in a few months time someone from Mercedes will take it away from me fills me with a deep sadness.

The perfect fleet for fun on two- and four-wheels
The perfect fleet for fun on two- and four-wheels
In the absence of being able to put my money where my mouth is I recently managed to convince a friend to instead put his there. And into a C63. When I turned up recently in 'my' Edition 507 wagon he was somewhat put out; he gets the last laugh though because he gets to keep his.

We shot his C63 with the E92 M3 as part of our farewell diary to the BMW, this being another classic German V8 we'll never see the like of again. Which is why we're also going to run the 507 on the PH fleet for a little while, pretty much taking the theme of Harris's video eulogy (yes, it's the same car) and stretching it out over a number of months. Offered the chance you'd do the same, right? We've got some stuff planned beyond day-to-day living too, including a trip to Affalterbach if all goes well to meet some of the chaps behind both this car and its forthcoming replacement.

While there I particularly want to seek out Herr Steffen Hahn and shake him by the hand. His signature adorns the top of our M156 V8 and I have a desire to tell him I am a huge fan of his work. I'm sure his graft is Germanic and consistent and there's no such thing as a Friday afternooner at AMG. But he had a particularly good day with this one.

Er, Dan, wasn't there a bike on there earlier?
Er, Dan, wasn't there a bike on there earlier?
Sloppy seconds
There's been a C63 wagon on the PH fleet before. But we've been granted a second crack of the whip. As demonstrated by the M3 and the 997 GT3 we borrowed for a similar farewell I think it's an interesting premise to run a car on long-term test at the end of its life. It's somehow got a more PHey angle to it, given that access to a similar car can be had from £25K in the classifieds while more recent examples with all the goodies, in their first year of registration and with four-figure mileages are easily found for two-thirds of the £68K base price of a new one. So a lot more to talk about than a car new to the market with no history or used pedigree. And a broader range of people who might possibly be tempted into following suit. Bear with me, there'll be no shortage of encouragement from me to do so.

The first couple of weeks with the C63 have done nothing to dissuade me from evangelising either. After a quiet start the first real journey was up to North Yorkshire, bike attached to roof bars and 15-month-old in his Maxi Cosi in the back, a boot full of his clobber behind. For the first 200 miles or so the AMG rumbled its way up the A1, tickling low 20s mpg and fuel consumption seemingly unaffected by the addition of a bike on the roof. As in, still pretty terrible.

The heart of the matter, all 6.2 litres of it
The heart of the matter, all 6.2 litres of it
Red pill or blue pill?
I arrived at the fork in the road that, for the last 30 miles or so, offers a relaxing dual carriageway finale. Or a blast along some of North Yorkshire's finest B-roads. At this point I still had a third of a tank to go; plenty to complete the run. It's a Matrix style blue pill or red pill moment I reach on every journey home, usually pretty tired and emotional after the soul-sapping drudgery of the A1. Sensibly, given the cargo, I should have stuck with the blue. Obviously I went red.

About half way along the Helmsley road I stopped for some photos. Or that was the pretext. Really I just needed to catch breath. Fans whirring, brakes ticking, the C63 looked accusingly back at me, goading me for having to take a breather. Several people I'd overtaken in the last few miles trundled past, shaking their heads. The also nearly departed SLS AMG remains one of my all-time favourite cars. Life demands dictate I need to carry bikes and baby clobber and a C-Class estate suits me better. That AMG levers what amounts to the engine from the former and into the latter remained a source of wonder to reflect on as my pulse rate slowed. Then I continued on my way, that final third of a tank vapourised and the reserve light coming on with still a few miles to my destination and a soothing brew.

Can't afford one yourself? Get a mate to buy one!
Can't afford one yourself? Get a mate to buy one!
Warning shot
Cargo unloaded my brother and I then went out onto t'moors for some photos. And into a sleet storm. Not ideal conditions, it has to be said. But perfect for firing a warning shot over his bow with a demonstration of how sideways the 507 will go even in its mid-way ESP setting. Which is to say very. Enough to require a half turn of corrective lock. He looked a bit thoughtful at that.

Even in the dry and with the systems full on that optional locking diff works much more proactively and wakes up long before the ESP, gently nudging the nose into the turns and requiring that delicious sense of loosening your grip on the wheel while under power but maintaining the same steering angle. In the wet it's rather more involved but, treated with respect, grip can still be found. As a couple of Race Start demos to test the AMG Performance Media package (two grand to measure your lap times, basically) proved, recording a personal best 4.5 seconds 0-60 on a wet road - just two tenths slower than the official 0-62. Video evidence below. With gratuitous V8 noise.

Finally, just after the C63 arrived I was amused to get one of those nonsense press releases about what cars impress people on first dates. I think it was from Europcar's prestige rental department, flogging the idea that a rented set of flash wheels would somehow make up for personality deficiencies or bad breath. Anyway, apparently just 1 per cent of people surveyed reckoned an estate car has what it takes to make a good impression.

They're just looking at the wrong estate cars.


FACT SHEET
Car:
2013 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507
Run by: Dan
On fleet since: March 2014
Mileage: 7,193
List price new: £68,470 before options (£80,075 as tested, comprising Privacy Glass £330, reversing camera £390, Lighting Package £150, three-zone climate control £590, Keyless Go £665, AMG Performance Media £2,040, Comand Online with six-disc changer £250, DAB £335, Harmon Kardon surround sound £650, phone pre-wiring with roof aerial £290, Designo Magno Platinum paint £3,660, rear axle limited-slip differential £1,745 and 19-inch wheels £510)
Last month at a glance: Back in a C63, fell in love all over again

* Unilateral editorial decision: Mercedes estate cars are wagons. Not 'Tourings', not 'Sportbacks'. Wagons. End of.


Essential Race Start test run...

 







 

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Discussion

Axionknight

Original Poster:

8,505 posts

136 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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Gimme, gimme, gimme!

That is all.

MattS3

1,910 posts

192 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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I think I'm going to have to own myself one of these in the next 12-18 months when prices dip below £20k.
Any horror stories to watch out for, apart from replacement costs for consumables like tyres and brakes?

simo1863

1,868 posts

129 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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Just come out of an E63S, despite the increase in power and performance I much preferred the C63, especially the 6.2 over the 5.5. Much more raucous.

turboman786

1,067 posts

188 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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Not a very well written article.,......gives us very little idea of what he actually thought of the car....is that the purpose of these articles?

As a C63 owner, I was looking forward to comparing notes, but very little in the way of a review here really.....

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

169 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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turboman786 said:
Not a very well written article.,......gives us very little idea of what he actually thought of the car....is that the purpose of these articles?

As a C63 owner, I was looking forward to comparing notes, but very little in the way of a review here really.....
Don't worry, there won't be a lack of content coming on this car. I've got A LOT to say, especially about the driving experience. I was in danger of going on a bit already; consider this the 'set up' to the loan.

Incidentally I'm keen to arrange a meet-up with other C63 owning PHers to get a sample view of ownership experiences and include that as part of our coverage. You'll be getting a mail shortly!

Cheers,

Dan

ST150HB

446 posts

150 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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Not normally a fan of Mercs, and usually brush past articles on them, however the wagon here seems to have made itself a true contender for me. Having only mainly considered the B7 RS4 as my fast wagon of choice,the likelihood of these soon to be matching in the price stakes means i'd be stupid not to consider one!
Damn you PH!

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

169 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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turboman786 said:
Not a very well written article.,......gives us very little idea of what he actually thought of the car....is that the purpose of these articles?

As a C63 owner, I was looking forward to comparing notes, but very little in the way of a review here really.....
You've got mail!

Cheers,

Dan

ZesPak

24,434 posts

197 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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I'd love to ever get one of these, however silly fuel costs and taxes here will probably make sure I won't in the foreseeable future.

I've also got a gut feeling these will keep their value all too well, considering the general reception of them and the engine being one of the all time greats (like the V10 M5).

Please, people that can afford one of these and are in the market, buy one! So, in half a decade, the plebs can pick one up for a reasonable price.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5ZXTDLIUXw

Incredible how these hit 60mph in sub 4 sec, proper supercar territory a decade ago.

Edited by ZesPak on Wednesday 2nd April 10:40

UltimaCH

3,155 posts

190 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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I have an older AMG a C43 which I love, but I find it's getting on in age and with mileage at 249000 kms on the clock, it's perhaps time to find something else, not that I want to get ride of the c43. No it's a keeper for me and used in non winter months only.

The c63 ticks all the boxes, specially the "wagon". I nearly purchased a white c63 wagon 2 years ago, but decided to use the cash to finance the purchase of an Ultima which is currently in the build stage. I need to convince my "other half" that we need one blabla, but that's another story... wink

sagarich

1,216 posts

150 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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So much want for one of these!


findtomdotcom

691 posts

241 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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I absolutely hated my C63, (not a wagon but a coupe). I would be only too happy to put pen to paper should you like a different opinion of the car?

Tom

Short write up here: http://www.speedmonkey.co.uk/2013/10/living-with-2...


Garlick

40,601 posts

241 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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Dan, share the wealth.

That's all I want to say smile

P4ROT

1,219 posts

194 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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I think in 10/20 years time this will be remembered as one of the great engines of our time. Discuss...

jovie

53 posts

176 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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findtomdotcom said:
I absolutely hated my C63, (not a wagon but a coupe). I would be only too happy to put pen to paper should you like a different opinion of the car?

Tom

Short write up here: http://www.speedmonkey.co.uk/2013/10/living-with-2...
I think it's an excellent car and having test driven one I think it's much better than my M3.
I will be getting one of these shortly.

Sure you bought a lemon but that doesn't make all of the cars bad.
You didn't like yours, thank you, move on.


findtomdotcom

691 posts

241 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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jovie said:
I think it's an excellent car and having test driven one I think it's much better than my M3.
I will be getting one of these shortly.

Sure you bought a lemon but that doesn't make all of the cars bad.
You didn't like yours, thank you, move on.
I think you are missing the point fella. I agree it does not make all C63s bad and in fact some of the issues I had with mine were fixed with the MY13 cars, but in light of Dan saying he would talk to owners about their experiences I though I would raise my hand.

Or were we only after the “I love my C63” opinions?

Garlick

40,601 posts

241 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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findtomdotcom said:
I think you are missing the point fella. I agree it does not make all C63s bad and in fact some of the issues I had with mine were fixed with the MY13 cars, but in light of Dan saying he would talk to owners about their experiences I though I would raise my hand.

Or were we only after the “I love my C63” opinions?
I think your opinion would add a lot, thanks for putting your hat into the ring.

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

169 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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Garlick said:
findtomdotcom said:
I think you are missing the point fella. I agree it does not make all C63s bad and in fact some of the issues I had with mine were fixed with the MY13 cars, but in light of Dan saying he would talk to owners about their experiences I though I would raise my hand.

Or were we only after the “I love my C63” opinions?
I think your opinion would add a lot, thanks for putting your hat into the ring.
Agreed - Tom, you've got mail.


Dan

turboman786

1,067 posts

188 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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findtomdotcom said:
I think you are missing the point fella. I agree it does not make all C63s bad and in fact some of the issues I had with mine were fixed with the MY13 cars, but in light of Dan saying he would talk to owners about their experiences I though I would raise my hand.

Or were we only after the “I love my C63” opinions?
I do love my C63, but can empathise with your points re build quality.....my main gripe on my C63 is how unappealing the interior is....its really is poor for a car of this standing......its pretty much the same as you'd get ain a c220 CDI, and for me, that is no good for a premium sports saloon.

It does sound like you had a bad experience with yours.......dare I ask how much you lost in 4 months of ownership?...

findtomdotcom

691 posts

241 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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turboman786 said:
I do love my C63, but can empathise with your points re build quality.....my main gripe on my C63 is how unappealing the interior is....its really is poor for a car of this standing......its pretty much the same as you'd get ain a c220 CDI, and for me, that is no good for a premium sports saloon.

It does sound like you had a bad experience with yours.......dare I ask how much you lost in 4 months of ownership?...
Well...... I was very lucky. I bought it cheap (right time right place etc), and got an excellent trade in against a new car. That made the "I want a new car" conversation with Mrs Findtomdotcom so much easier!

So to answer your question, I made about £2000, which was my favourite part of owning the car. Actually that’s not true, I did love that V8 and even with all the problems, I would still rate it as one of the best engines I have ever owned.

sorrel

223 posts

139 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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findtomdotcom said:
I absolutely hated my C63, (not a wagon but a coupe). I would be only too happy to put pen to paper should you like a different opinion of the car?

Tom

Short write up here: http://www.speedmonkey.co.uk/2013/10/living-with-2...
Interesting article! I think you hit the nail on the head regarding some MB owners not being technical and therefore not caring about the tech issues etc. Yup, I fall into that pile as I don't ever use the phone (not an iPhone... shock, horror!) in the car and find the MB comand system interface fine.

My only gripe with the C class (and E coupe) is the lack of space - on tests I hit my head on the area above the windscreen and found the a pillar too close. Oddly, a problem I don't have with my (smaller) R172 SLK.

I guess not everyone is obsessed with tech! smile