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[E65Ross]

MrOrange said:

Wow. Double take! I've been loitering around here looking at big old Mercs since my trusty (not really) P38 decided to call it day. Went through looking, and driving, all the cars you have on the list, plus some you should have.

I finally ordered a contract hire C63 Estate for 500 a month, arrives in a few weeks.

/trippy

Bloody hell that's cheap. What's the deposit, may I ask?

[CampDavid]

MrOrange said:

dom9 said:

The devil in me says to lease an NA C63 AMG before large, NA engines are no more but I thought I'd look at buying outright for similar money to the lease deposit.

Dom

Wow. Double take! I've been loitering around here looking at big old Mercs since my trusty (not really) P38 decided to call it day. Went through looking, and driving, all the cars you have on the list, plus some you should have.

I finally ordered a contract hire C63 Estate for 500 a month, arrives in a few weeks.

/trippy

I struggle to understand the concept of £500 a month on a car while simultaneously being unable to grasp the concept of not having that 6.2 litre engine in my life. I followed an E63 earlier. It sounds like a fking Nascar.

[0a]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Zwolf said:

It has had standard wheels on it all the many times it has appeared for sale here before for a couple of years...

What's the story with it Z, do you know?

Not to my taste at all, but I'd be surprised if there isn't any love for it; makes me wonder if there is something more sinister at play?

I have the standard E300 and I don't have any interest as I don't think the car particularly needs any more power in the role I use mine for. The twin turbo stuff just sounds like it will break quicker, be more expensive to fix, and be a pain to insure. The W124 isn't particularly endowed with grip, but can be hustled along nicely enough in standard form - old school turbo lag would not a good addition in my opinion.

I'd like to try a 500e but that's been very much changed in terms of suspension etc.

[donaircooleone]

Evening gents, I really shouldn't but, are there any issues foreseen when removing the body kit on this one? i..e Is it as straightforward as unbolting it?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-528I-SE-IMMACULATE-C...

[MrOrange]

E65Ross said:

Bloody hell that's cheap. What's the deposit, may I ask?

3+33 so £1500.

plus Vat but my own company (LLP) so half the vat back plus 40% tax off the 500 bit = £350 nett pm.

[0a]

MrOrange said:

E65Ross said:

Bloody hell that's cheap. What's the deposit, may I ask?

3+33 so £1500.

plus Vat but my own company (LLP) so half the vat back plus 40% tax off the 500 bit = £350 nett pm.

Blimey, I guess this is part of the reason I see so many around. I wish I was still running my own company and not back in respectable employment!

[CampDavid]

MrOrange said:

E65Ross said:

Bloody hell that's cheap. What's the deposit, may I ask?

3+33 so £1500.

plus Vat but my own company (LLP) so half the vat back plus 40% tax off the 500 bit = £350 nett pm.

Is there not company car tax on it doing it that way?

[hornetrider]

Yeah should be approx 8k pa assuming higher rate etc.

http://www.parkers.co.uk/company-cars/tax-calculat...

[derin100]

MrOrange said:

E65Ross said:

Bloody hell that's cheap. What's the deposit, may I ask?

3+33 so £1500.

plus Vat but my own company (LLP) so half the vat back plus 40% tax off the 500 bit = £350 nett pm.

My friend has just bought an AMG C63 as well (his second), brand new from MB. Seems amazingly "cheap" to buy an MB of this performance? He's paid £45K for it inc VAT which he can claim back.

[dom9]

MrOrange said:

Wow. Double take! I've been loitering around here looking at big old Mercs since my trusty (not really) P38 decided to call it day. Went through looking, and driving, all the cars you have on the list, plus some you should have.

I finally ordered a contract hire C63 Estate for 500 a month, arrives in a few weeks.

/trippy

Yeah - the deals I saw were very much on these lines... Cracking VFM in my opinion for the performance!

But... Some good suggestions on here!

[MrOrange]

CampDavid said:

Is there not company car tax on it doing it that way?

I'm a partner in a LLP so zero BIK.

[CampDavid]

MrOrange said:

CampDavid said:

Is there not company car tax on it doing it that way?

I'm a partner in a LLP so zero BIK.

Could the same tactic be used by, say, an IT contractor with their own limited company?

[barchetta_boy]

MrOrange said:

I'm a partner in a LLP so zero BIK.

How the hell does that work? I'm a major shareholder in a Ltd Co that also employs me, but at a basic rate salary. I'm a committed bargist (W124 wagon) but please explain how I can get a C63 in my life!

[dom9]

barchetta_boy said:

How the hell does that work? I'm a major shareholder in a Ltd Co that also employs me, but at a basic rate salary. I'm a committed bargist (W124 wagon) but please explain how I can get a C63 in my life!

+1

About to go contract again and interested in this. The C63 leases that I had been looking at were 'personal' as I thought that it ended up 'better' with all the BIK and company tax etc (though I hadn't spent tooooo much time on it)!

[harry kular]

barchetta_boy said:

How the hell does that work? I'm a major shareholder in a Ltd Co that also employs me, but at a basic rate salary. I'm a committed bargist (W124 wagon) but please explain how I can get a C63 in my life!

Very much +2

[barchetta_boy]

Look at us. Fully paid up members of the depreciation-free fings-aint-wot-they-used-to-be 90s-future-classics club....

one sniff of an AMG 6.3 complete with fake leather and rubber band tyres and terrible ride and we're queueing up to drop our pants

[Super Slo Mo]

CampDavid said:

MrOrange said:

CampDavid said:

Is there not company car tax on it doing it that way?

I'm a partner in a LLP so zero BIK.

Could the same tactic be used by, say, an IT contractor with their own limited company?

It appears that there's a bit of an anomaly with the tax system whereby a partner in a Limited Liability Partnership doesn't incur BIK for certain company provided benefits, which currently included cars.
However, HMRC is looking at the situation, as of course there are quite a lot of people taking advantage of it. I'd expect the BIK exemptions to be closed down in the not too distant future.

[E65Ross]

barchetta_boy said:

Look at us. Fully paid up members of the depreciation-free fings-aint-wot-they-used-to-be 90s-future-classics club....

one sniff of an AMG 6.3 complete with fake leather and rubber band tyres and terrible ride and we're queueing up to drop our pants

Have you been in, or driven one? Terrible ride? I didn't think so, more than adequate. You could counter this and say the W124 steers like a complete boat which doesn't inspire anywhere near as much confidence as a C63.

Fake leather? Only one I've been in had the upgraded leather, but it was real, of that I'm sure. The seats were absolutely superb and more comfortable/supportive than the W124 seats I went in.

Rubber band tyres? Do you mean a small sidewall? And that's a problem, how exactly? I think the ride is fine.....I'll admit the one I have driven (briefly) but spent a fair few miles in was on 18's, no 19's.

[Strawman]

Barchetta Boy was joking is how I read that, exaggerating the perceived differences for comedic effect. I enjoyed his post anyway.

[bmthnick1981]

MrOrange said:

CampDavid said:

Is there not company car tax on it doing it that way?

I'm a partner in a LLP so zero BIK.

I do the same in my LLP, albeit with a mere e220 CDI rather than a c63! It's quite tax efficient I think. I'm on a 2 year lease so hopefully get something more fruity come renewal time.