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CharlesdeGaulle

26,346 posts

181 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Newer than some we've seen recently, but I rather like this, in its fantastic colours:

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C525588



Much to like.

0a

23,902 posts

195 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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All fixable for not too much if that's all wrong with it!

Motorrad

6,811 posts

188 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Shimmy should have been sorted with a premium priced car like this. It was on my 2.5K diesel touring at significantly less than purchase price 18 months ago. I hope he paid nothing like asking price.


Likely to be control arms plus fitting which has to be 250 quid if you're going to go Lemforder and someone else fitting them.

Edited by Motorrad on Friday 8th August 20:44

E65Ross

35,118 posts

213 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
Newer than some we've seen recently, but I rather like this, in its fantastic colours:

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C525588



Much to like.
You aren't wrong. Me likey. Seen a few R129s around lately (do many sit around until the summer?) and they are good looking cars. Still, R230 pre-facelift is the SL for me. Gorgeous car imo, new one is far too vulgar for what, in my opinion, an SL should look like.

derin100

5,214 posts

244 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Motorrad said:
Shimmy should have been sorted with a premium priced car like this. It was on my 2.5K diesel touring at significantly less than purchase price 18 months ago. I hope he paid nothing like asking price.


Likely to be control arms plus fitting which has to be 250 quid if you're going to go Lemforder and someone else fitting them.

Edited by Motorrad on Friday 8th August 20:44
This is what I've already told him is the most likely cause (but could be a number of other things.

As you'll see in my next post, vendor would budge, my friend had taken a day aside to go all the way to Southampton and he would have walked had it not been for the advice of another friend of his who went with him.


E65Ross

35,118 posts

213 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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You should have contacted me Derin100, I'd have happily had a look at it!

Shimmy could (could!) be brake discs.

derin100

5,214 posts

244 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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0a said:
All fixable for not too much if that's all wrong with it!
0a said:
All fixable for not too much if that's all wrong with it!
Yes, one will probably find none of this is anything much especially in the context of a car of this price range. And the friend who went with him managed to convince him of this otherwise he would have just walked away I think. But you don't know him. I doubt he'll have it long!

He seriously wanted MB to come and take the C63 back (112 miles on the clock) because he couldn't bear to look at it for the following:




(Damn! Image uploader not working for some reason?!)



Edited by derin100 on Friday 8th August 21:16

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Avoid the 320 then! What do you get from the 320d?

Getting back to barges, this looks rather nice: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

"Daimler Double Six 6.0 V12 4dr Auto New 12 Month Mot"





Wow, a merc-busting Charm Factor 9

Very very ownable indeed. I really really like that.

derin100

5,214 posts

244 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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E65Ross said:
You should have contacted me Derin100, I'd have happily had a look at it!

Shimmy could (could!) be brake discs.
Yep, can be brakes as well.

I wasn't involved in buying it Ross. He just went off himself and did it. But thanks for the offer.

Thing is, even if you had, you'd have never satisfied him. He'd always find more things wrong, never takes then in the context of a car's age or mileage and then you end up feeling bad and like it's your fault...believe me I've been there!


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Motorrad

6,811 posts

188 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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E65Ross said:
Shimmy could (could!) be brake discs.
True- only when braking though I'd have thought smile

Mine still has a very, very small amount of vibration when braking hard from 120mph to 90ish or so but as the disks and pads are fairly recent all round I suspect it's a front wheel balance issue, particularly as it never shows it at any other speed.

I think the E39 is really sensitive to suspension/wheel balancing and geo setup.

jke11y

3,182 posts

238 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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E65Ross said:
You aren't wrong. Me likey. Seen a few R129s around lately (do many sit around until the summer?) and they are good looking cars. Still, R230 pre-facelift is the SL for me. Gorgeous car imo, new one is far too vulgar for what, in my opinion, an SL should look like.
I notice way more on the roads in summer than the rest of the year. Although mine is my daily. Having driven an r230 back to back a number if times the new car feels nothing compare to the old- cheaper and flimsier .

0a

23,902 posts

195 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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derin100 said:
E65Ross said:
You should have contacted me Derin100, I'd have happily had a look at it!

Shimmy could (could!) be brake discs.
Yep, can be brakes as well.

I wasn't involved in buying it Ross. He just went off himself and did it. But thanks for the offer.

Thing is, even if you had, you'd have never satisfied him. He'd always find more things wrong, never takes then in the context of a car's age or mileage and then you end up feeling bad and like it's your fault...believe me I've been there!


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Sounds like the kind of chap to never give advice to - he will never be happy!

On a related kind of note my CEO who suddenly decided he wanted a daily classic and was looking at the BMW e28 520 (after seeing me use the old merc, refusual to listen to advice that an e28 is not suitable to a chap used to a Volvo XC90) told me he's just purchased an 11 year old Audi TT 225 convertible - I absolutely cannot be blamed for inspiring this so I'm rather relieved.

Regarding E39s I like them but the ones I see seem to be rusting like crazy. I spotted an M5 in the launch colour last week, looked great, but getting closer revealed that virtually every panel (including the boot, doors, wheel arches) was bubbling - so disheartening, not as bad as the E-class of the era but they seem to be getting there. I guess they are getting old (I remember the M5 on the front of Autocar frown )

derin100

5,214 posts

244 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Motorrad said:
E65Ross said:
Shimmy could (could!) be brake discs.
True- only when braking though I'd have thought smile

Mine still has a very, very small amount of vibration when braking hard from 120mph to 90ish or so but as the disks and pads are fairly recent all round I suspect it's a front wheel balance issue, particularly as it never shows it at any other speed.

I think the E39 is really sensitive to suspension/wheel balancing and geo setup.
Yes, could be all of these things. But strangely I had a shimmy issue on my ex-E32 years ago that was caused by the brake discs when NOT even under braking! At one stage, to keep the wheels nice and brake dust free I had put those rubber disc shields on. Despite them being new discs, the sheilds had caused the discs to over-heat and distort or become glazed thus I think the explanantion given by Nigel Moseley was that they were just touching the pads at one point causing a vibration? I didn't believe it either...but fair enough...changing the discs did make it disappear.

As I said, I haven't seen or driven the car yet but the strange thing is the vendor's ad said that all the front end bushes had already recently been changed (using genuine BMW parts) and the car has only done 39K miles? Shouldn't really go through two sets of those bushes in such a few miles.

Might even be as simple as my friend and the seller didn't check the tyre pressures before he set off!






derin100

5,214 posts

244 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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0a said:
derin100 said:
E65Ross said:
You should have contacted me Derin100, I'd have happily had a look at it!

Shimmy could (could!) be brake discs.
Yep, can be brakes as well.

I wasn't involved in buying it Ross. He just went off himself and did it. But thanks for the offer.

Thing is, even if you had, you'd have never satisfied him. He'd always find more things wrong, never takes then in the context of a car's age or mileage and then you end up feeling bad and like it's your fault...believe me I've been there!


laugh
Sounds like the kind of chap to never give advice to - he will never be happy!

On a related kind of note my CEO who suddenly decided he wanted a daily classic and was looking at the BMW e28 520 (after seeing me use the old merc, refusual to listen to advice that an e28 is not suitable to a chap used to a Volvo XC90) told me he's just purchased an 11 year old Audi TT 225 convertible - I absolutely cannot be blamed for inspiring this so I'm rather relieved.

Regarding E39s I like them but the ones I see seem to be rusting like crazy. I spotted an M5 in the launch colour last week, looked great, but getting closer revealed that virtually every panel (including the boot, doors, wheel arches) was bubbling - so disheartening, not as bad as the E-class of the era but they seem to be getting there. I guess they are getting old (I remember the M5 on the front of Autocar frown )
Yep. But I'm going to love going over every inch of that car and ripping it apart just like he does with every one of my projects when I've finished them. laugh I'm going to get my 4.5X maginification surgical loupes out and point out every single little imperfection just like he does with no heed to the context of the age of the car!

He's much younger than me but I've had to remind him on many occasions just how old some of my cars have been in the context of his own age e.g the E28s were made before he even went to Primary School i.e when he was aged 4 years old! He was only 14 years old when my E34 525i was made.

I'm going to enjoy every second of it when he comes round!

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0a

23,902 posts

195 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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derin100 said:
As I said, I haven't seen or driven the car yet but the strange thing is the vendor's ad said that all the front end bushes had already recently been changed (using genuine BMW parts) and the car has only done 39K miles? Shouldn't really go through two sets of those bushes in such a few miles.
My understanding (very limited!) is that the bushes can quite often do with changing as they age regardless of mileage. I take it "your friend" ( to spread a malicious rumour!) did checks on the mileage though?

derin100

5,214 posts

244 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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0a said:
My understanding (very limited!) is that the bushes can quite often do with changing as they age regardless of mileage. I take it "your friend" ( to spread a malicious rumour!) did checks on the mileage though?
That is EXACTLY what I was about to text him! laugh

derin100

5,214 posts

244 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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derin100 said:
That is EXACTLY what I was about to text him! laugh
Oi! I've just re-read that...and the subtext therein!

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0a

23,902 posts

195 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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SpeckledJim said:
0a said:
Avoid the 320 then! What do you get from the 320d?

Getting back to barges, this looks rather nice: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

"Daimler Double Six 6.0 V12 4dr Auto New 12 Month Mot"





Wow, a merc-busting Charm Factor 9

Very very ownable indeed. I really really like that.
I know, and it's cheap and looks good. I can't help but think that the build quality must be poor given the background of the model, possibly sorted by this year?

0a

23,902 posts

195 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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derin100 said:
derin100 said:
That is EXACTLY what I was about to text him! laugh
Oi! I've just re-read that...and the subtext therein!

laugh
I'm sure "your friend" will get the car up to his standards Derin!

derin100

5,214 posts

244 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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But surely what can never be sorted out is its unquenchable drinkdrinkdrink ???


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