Best Smoker Barges 1-5 large [Vol 7]

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JF87

686 posts

122 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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^ Yes, do that. I've recently returned from a 3,200-mile Euro road-trip in my LPG'd 4.4 E31 - overall mpg 27.4, so effectively way over 50 (thanks in part to the weak €, LPG is even cheaper over the channel - in Belgium I was paying 60c a litre).

Admittedly that impressive overall mpg figure was largely down to a technical issue which restricted me to 2,500rpm for most of the dilatory return leg (the aux water pump went in Bologna, and collateral damage from the Italian "fix" meant that the radiator hose blew off every time I put my foot down).

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hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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I've been mentally wrestling with LPG for a while. It makes financial sense if you are going to keep the car but... but... somehow I can't bring myself to do it.

SilverSixer

8,202 posts

152 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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I can't do LPG as you can't take it through the Tunnel, and I refuse to go on nasty, wobbly, smelly, barfy, yucky, stinky, 3.14key, sicky-wicky ferries now that the tunnel exists. Bah.

JF87

686 posts

122 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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I accept a certain mindset is required to go down the LPG route.

Suspect it's the same mindset that means I always take the ferry because.... it's cheaper.

E65Ross

35,149 posts

213 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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I probably should lpg my car but it's a huge outlay initially isn't it.

BigBen

11,659 posts

231 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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I think you can take an LPG car on the tunnel these days, just have to show the tank is empty or some such.


cat220

2,762 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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NastyNick74 said:
Barge Collective,

Currently looking at estate slush boxed barges for the impending arrival and combined ferrying of it and the hound.

I have had my head turned by a Mk1 Volvo V70 2.4 petrol auto. I have read that the Mk2 V70/S80 auto boxes are a ticking timebomb. Does the same apply to the Mk1 V70 or is it a differnt box entirely? Also, is there anything Bork-tastic I should be looking for on the the Mk1 and walking away from?

As always, many thanks in advance.
The p1 v70 is a pretty much solid option. The 2.4 in lpt form is a great match for the car, I've ran one albeit manual now for almost 5 years and it's needed nothing apart from routine servicing. Check that the pcv system has been done, if its not then you could use that as a decent bargaining tool. You can buy a kit to service if for less than £100.

S3_Graham

12,830 posts

200 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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SilverSixer said:
I can't do LPG as you can't take it through the Tunnel, and I refuse to go on nasty, wobbly, smelly, barfy, yucky, stinky, 3.14key, sicky-wicky ferries now that the tunnel exists. Bah.
learn something new every day.

Before you do it though, check where your nearest filling station is! They are very thin on the ground where I am frown

JF87

686 posts

122 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Re the expense of LPG installation: yes, I would never have thought about doing it myself - just came as a handy bonus on a car I wanted anyway.

That said I love everything about the whole business now, from the faintly worrisome fuelling process (rendered even more exciting with a load of screw-in continental nozzle adaptors) to the guilt-free 130mph autobahn blasts.

Is that true about the empty tank/Eurotunnel OKness? They told me I def couldn't put an LPG car in the tunnel.

NomduJour

19,171 posts

260 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Strong whiff of council around LPG - ghastly Overfinch Range Rover (P999 OSH or something equally crass) on Marylebone Road earlier, all colour-coded white but for the black plastic LPG filler stuck onto the side of the bumper. Ugh.

Perhaps not always the case, but seems to be popular amongst those who like to be flash but can't actually afford to run the car (see also 22" ghetto wheels clad in Linglongs).

JF87

686 posts

122 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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NomduJour said:
Strong whiff of council around LPG - ghastly Overfinch Range Rover on Marylebone Road earlier, all colour-coded white but for the black plastic LPG filler stuck onto the side of the bumper. Ugh.

Perhaps not always the case, but seems to be popular amongst those who like to be flash but can't actually afford to run the car (see also 22" ghetto wheels clad in Linglongs).
Yep, that's me. thumbup

Sadly, my LPG filler is completely hidden under the towing-eye flap in the rear bumper. Perhaps I need to stick a fake one on the rear wing.

KrisP

598 posts

181 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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I had a LPG converted 9-5 Aero. The LPG was great in theory, but I didnt like it in practice. I didn't like the Saab much either to be fair.

Ultimately I replaced with a E39 540 touring, my MPG is less, circa 21, but its a much better car IMO

BigBen

11,659 posts

231 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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JF87 said:
Is that true about the empty tank/Eurotunnel OKness? They told me I def couldn't put an LPG car in the tunnel.
No, I just looked it up and it seems I was talking bo**ocks. Could have sworn a bloke down the pub recently told me it was ok

Apologies

JF87

686 posts

122 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Oh well.

I was quite looking forward to telling my wife that we could actually be going in the tunnel, but were taking the ferry anyway in order to save £11.50.


Riley Blue

21,047 posts

227 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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SilverSixer said:
I can't do LPG as you can't take it through the Tunnel, and I refuse to go on nasty, wobbly, smelly, barfy, yucky, stinky, 3.14key, sicky-wicky ferries now that the tunnel exists. Bah.
Priority loading and Club Lounge exists to relieve you of that experience.

sday12

5,053 posts

212 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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LPG makes complete sense for a barge, although the potential for a large bill leaves you with instant scrap.

E65Ross

35,149 posts

213 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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sday12 said:
LPG makes complete sense for a barge, although the potential for a large bill leaves you with instant scrap.
And this before you even consider the LPG system going wrong....!

radiodanno

1,055 posts

131 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Although if you're particularly fond of one particular barge (say 124/E39) then you could always pull off the LPG at bork and have it fitted to your next one...

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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I could get quite defensive over LPG. So I will:

It doesn't really go wrong. And if it does, no single part of the system is very expensive. A big bit of the cost of the system is sunk in the installation. Once spent, the bits aren't so scary.

It does look a bit 'council' if the filler is not well-sited. True, the only reason to do it is to save money. But - the only reason to have a diesel is to save money. And the only reason to not have the biggest engine available in your choice of model is to save money too. The only reason to insulate your loft with wool instead of shredded tenners is to save money.

So is it a bit 'council' to have a 530i instead of a 540i or M5? Or an SL320 instead of an SL600?

The only reason to have a 15 year old Saab is because you can't or won't stomach the spend for a 5 year old Saab. I wouldn't label every 15 year old Saab 'council'.

Petrol and LPG do essentially exactly the same thing, but LPG is half price. In anything with reasonable oomph and above, you honestly can't tell which fuel you're using. In the light of that, I'd suggest buying thousands of litres of petrol a year (whilst moaning about one's tax situation) is a bit mad.

Do the die-hard petrol fans buy two beers at the bar, choose one to drink and tip one down the drain? Yes you can afford to, but it's a bit mad, isn't it. So you don't.

LPG makes acceptable daily drivers out of cars that even 20 years ago were giving their wealthy first owners a hard time at the pumps.

Big, interesting cars that were only offered with big, interesting engines. No diesel option offered. No diesel option wanted. And now, thanks to LPG, no diesel option required.

So endeth my sermon.

NastyNick74

138 posts

146 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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cat220 said:
NastyNick74 said:
Barge Collective,

Currently looking at estate slush boxed barges for the impending arrival and combined ferrying of it and the hound.

I have had my head turned by a Mk1 Volvo V70 2.4 petrol auto. I have read that the Mk2 V70/S80 auto boxes are a ticking timebomb. Does the same apply to the Mk1 V70 or is it a differnt box entirely? Also, is there anything Bork-tastic I should be looking for on the the Mk1 and walking away from?

As always, many thanks in advance.
The p1 v70 is a pretty much solid option. The 2.4 in lpt form is a great match for the car, I've ran one albeit manual now for almost 5 years and it's needed nothing apart from routine servicing. Check that the pcv system has been done, if its not then you could use that as a decent bargaining tool. You can buy a kit to service if for less than £100.
Forgive my ignorance, but what's a pcv? And is it within the abilities of a mechanical retard?


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