Best Smoker Barges 1-5 large [Vol 7]

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hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Good post Jim, food for thought.

cat220

2,762 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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NastyNick74 said:
cat220 said:
NastyNick74 said:
Barge Collective,

Currently looking at estate slush boxed barges for the impending arrival and combined ferrying of it and the hound.

I have had my head turned by a Mk1 Volvo V70 2.4 petrol auto. I have read that the Mk2 V70/S80 auto boxes are a ticking timebomb. Does the same apply to the Mk1 V70 or is it a differnt box entirely? Also, is there anything Bork-tastic I should be looking for on the the Mk1 and walking away from?

As always, many thanks in advance.
The p1 v70 is a pretty much solid option. The 2.4 in lpt form is a great match for the car, I've ran one albeit manual now for almost 5 years and it's needed nothing apart from routine servicing. Check that the pcv system has been done, if its not then you could use that as a decent bargaining tool. You can buy a kit to service if for less than £100.
Forgive my ignorance, but what's a pcv? And is it within the abilities of a mechanical retard?
Rather than me launching into a few paragraphs have a read here...

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=137...

This also provides a step by step guide if required.

lightthefuse

426 posts

173 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Nothing wrong with the Mk I V70's autobox... as said it was the Mk II, and think it's been fixed after a certain model year, no problems (touch wood) with mine which is an '06 and the facelifted version. Always serviced on time, just coming up for 100k miles.

edo

16,699 posts

266 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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whats this worth?

2002 735i. Oxford Green, Cream leather.
Great service history, FBMW, every year and twice a year a few years. 15 Services.
High spec inc logic7, Sunfroof, dynamic drive, seat vent, genuine alpinas. 75k miles

??

CB 987

384 posts

148 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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I assume the 735i is an early E65? History sounds pretty solid, miles are lowish compared to most others. At £3.5k - £4k I think it would be a good buy... Thoughts?

Edit - just read the spec again, must be an E65!

Zwolf

25,867 posts

207 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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edo said:
whats this worth?

dynamic drive
Depends how borked that and the gearbox are. Plus it's green, which makes it worth ":ess than all the silver, grey, black and dark blue ones, by a lot. About the same as a burgundy or brown one". £500-1k less for a given age and mileage, even at this price point.

It's not lost on me that my own Seven is green. They never look better than Oxford or Calypso. *Possibly* a minority opinion.

tobinen

9,239 posts

146 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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edo said:
whats this worth?

2002 735i. Oxford Green, Cream leather.
Great service history, FBMW, every year and twice a year a few years. 15 Services.
High spec inc logic7, Sunfroof, dynamic drive, seat vent, genuine alpinas. 75k miles

??
CAP August says: 2002/02

Retail £5,030

Clean trade £3,275
Average £2,925

Add a bit more if it's a Sport or SE or LWB

S3_Graham

12,830 posts

200 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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SpeckledJim said:
I could get quite defensive over LPG. So I will:

It doesn't really go wrong. And if it does, no single part of the system is very expensive. A big bit of the cost of the system is sunk in the installation. Once spent, the bits aren't so scary.

It does look a bit 'council' if the filler is not well-sited. True, the only reason to do it is to save money. But - the only reason to have a diesel is to save money. And the only reason to not have the biggest engine available in your choice of model is to save money too. The only reason to insulate your loft with wool instead of shredded tenners is to save money.

So is it a bit 'council' to have a 530i instead of a 540i or M5? Or an SL320 instead of an SL600?

The only reason to have a 15 year old Saab is because you can't or won't stomach the spend for a 5 year old Saab. I wouldn't label every 15 year old Saab 'council'.

Petrol and LPG do essentially exactly the same thing, but LPG is half price. In anything with reasonable oomph and above, you honestly can't tell which fuel you're using. In the light of that, I'd suggest buying thousands of litres of petrol a year (whilst moaning about one's tax situation) is a bit mad.

Do the die-hard petrol fans buy two beers at the bar, choose one to drink and tip one down the drain? Yes you can afford to, but it's a bit mad, isn't it. So you don't.

LPG makes acceptable daily drivers out of cars that even 20 years ago were giving their wealthy first owners a hard time at the pumps.

Big, interesting cars that were only offered with big, interesting engines. No diesel option offered. No diesel option wanted. And now, thanks to LPG, no diesel option required.

So endeth my sermon.
All extremely valid points.

But......When I had my 323 I didn't really 'get' it though. It was 71p a litre, difficult (where I live) to get and I got horrendous mpg. I saved a bit of dosh yes, would I have it again? Probably. Would I spend £2k converting a car? Probably not.

JF87

686 posts

122 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Excellent post from SpeckledJim.

Given the defining ethos of this thread, I do find the general LPG-scoffing a bit odd.

harry kular

2,770 posts

227 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Has anyone run fuel system/injector cleaners in their barges?

I put a can of BG44K in my s124 yesterday, and I swear it does seem to be going better after only 20 miles. A bit smoother and a bit keener to pick up, but the stuff may affect the octane rating causing the latter.

Worthwhile maintenance or an automotive placebo?

NastyNick74

138 posts

146 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Whilst on the subject of LPG, I know that LPG'd vehicles are not permitted passage in the Eurotunnel, but can they sail on cross-channel ferries?

Having always used the tunnel as the easiest, quickest and often cheapest way onto the continent, my experience of ferry travel is limited.


SilverSixer

8,202 posts

152 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Riley Blue said:
SilverSixer said:
I can't do LPG as you can't take it through the Tunnel, and I refuse to go on nasty, wobbly, smelly, barfy, yucky, stinky, 3.14key, sicky-wicky ferries now that the tunnel exists. Bah.
Priority loading and Club Lounge exists to relieve you of that experience.
Granted, but doesn't help smooth out a rough crossing, which is my main bugbear.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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SilverSixer said:
Granted, but doesn't help smooth out a rough crossing, which is my main bugbear.
Are you talking about the vomet comet? The fast ferry from Portsmouth to Caen? I find ferries to be really comfortable, and a nice break from what is probably a long journey.

SilverSixer

8,202 posts

152 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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hornetrider said:
SilverSixer said:
Granted, but doesn't help smooth out a rough crossing, which is my main bugbear.
Are you talking about the vomet comet? The fast ferry from Portsmouth to Caen? I find ferries to be really comfortable, and a nice break from what is probably a long journey.
Nah, all of them. Fast and slow. When the sea's rough they're all unbearable to me. Can't take the risk of a rough sea, but yes, when I've had a smooth crossing it's tolerable. Travelled a lot in the days before the tunnel, there was no choice then. Had my fill of seasickness back in the day, avoid like the plague is my rule now.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Unlucky dude, I'd hate to suffer from travel/motion sickness.

Riley Blue

20,984 posts

227 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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hornetrider said:
SilverSixer said:
Granted, but doesn't help smooth out a rough crossing, which is my main bugbear.
Are you talking about the vomet comet? The fast ferry from Portsmouth to Caen? I find ferries to be really comfortable, and a nice break from what is probably a long journey.
Vomit comet + rough weather = ace surfing. Sailed Sea Ferries Dover - Boulogne once, must have been marginal whether to sail or not but it was great fun, even at reduced speed. Guts of steel me smile

Anyways, back on topic - should I LPG my 2003 4.2 petrol A8? Has anyone done so and with what result?

BigBen

11,650 posts

231 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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hornetrider said:
Unlucky dude, I'd hate to suffer from travel/motion sickness.
I never get seasick on standard ferried but the catamaran types in slightly rough sea can leave me a little off colour, not vomiting or owt but I think the waves hitting each hull out of phase with each other messes something up.

Either way tunnel is the way of the future for me.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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I've been on the comet a couple of times coming back from Le Mans. Once the weather was properly terrible and there were people chundering everywhere hehe The loos were swimming in vom and basically the entire boat stank of sick. Nice!

cat220

2,762 posts

216 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Well now focussed on my trip south on Sunday. All this talk of mpg, I've been getting 19.7mpg average about town in the xj8. I'm interested to see what I get from the e55 on the run back to Glasgow (all going well), I'd be happy with 25mpg. Took the plunge and placed an advert for the Jag. If only I could keep the two of them.

r129sl

9,518 posts

204 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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I went to Carmarthen and back yesterday in a w140 S420. 800miles. 20mpg. Almost £300 of petrol. Two speeding tickets. A stiff neck. And total exhaustion. Not a great ad for barging.
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