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[judas]

nct001 said:

Don't buy e38s, ok bought a 1998 728i last week for £100 from a customer for parts / scrap.

Any e38s have had in recent years have come in px against which have generated a fair margin.

I do NOT buy and sell e38s as imo there is no demand for them.

Have sold four 760li in the last three months and the last one was £32995 so don't worry I'm not on the breadline, neither was the chap who pxed the 750 for the £995 cap is irrelevant to me in this situation, in effect anything over £0 is gravy on the px. Just the same as the main dealers do and to say main dealer part exchanges that are sent through auction or trade are inferior or no good is immature and smacks of a lack of experience... that said I'm not here to educate you!

Oh dear

You're really not helping yourself here (or dispelling the used car salesman stereotype). I reiterate my point: it's a private sale, if it takes a while to sell then so be it. I may drop the price or may change my mind and keep it: the only reason it's going is that I need the space and could do with cutting my overall outgoings on cars. I don't need to make a profit on it (not that there's any chance of that given the money thrown at it so far) but I would like a decent price for it.

I'm really struggling to understand your negativity and know-it-all attitude. You may not think it's worth the money - that's fine, I don't expect you to buy it, but you seem determined to piss on my chips, so to speak, and that's getting irksome. There are plenty of people on this thread who been kind enough to lend their support to me/my car, but no one cheering your corner. What does that say to you?

[nct001]

Zwolf said:

Only fifteen years in the trade, a third of it for myself alongside dealership experience and getting on for 40 ten+ year old BMWs bought, run and sold in my own capacity.

Well if that's your experience then move over, as its nothing to be proud of.

[judas]

nct001 said:

Zwolf said:

Only fifteen years in the trade, a third of it for myself alongside dealership experience and getting on for 40 ten+ year old BMWs bought, run and sold in my own capacity.

Well if that's your experience then move over, as its nothing to be proud of.

And so the troll emerges from 'neath the bridge.

With every post, you paint a less and less flattering picture of yourself. Please do keep it up...

[hornetrider]

Do people not realise this is the thread? Give over and post a bloody barge.

[nct001]

Surely he can answer for himself?

[judas]

hornetrider said:

Do people not realise this is the thread? Give over and post a bloody barge.

Am I doing this right?

But seriously, hornetrider's right: this conversation has run its course and we should get this thread back on topic.

[Sterillium]

nct001 said:

Surely he can answer for himself?

What a strange thing to say, when you've wandered into a thread with the sole intention of deriding a car for sale that you know next to nothing about.

[Laidback66]

Am I the only one here reading this and becoming saddened by the way this has gone?

Come on guys, everyone is entitled to an opinion, and those have been made.
Now please can we move on and go back to the friendly jovial environment that this thread is normally and has so many people viewing it and contributing.

We are here to see what can be had, not pass judgement in such a personal manner on a car or the seller.

Ultimately, as others with rather more experience than me have stated, a car is worth what someone is prepared to pay.

And for what it is worth, I thought the advert was open honest, well written and without the over exuberant descriptions that plague too many.

A V12 BMW for c£2k...sounds good to me, even with the known corrective actions required

[nct001]

Sterillium said:

What a strange thing to say, when you've wandered into a thread with the sole intention of deriding a car for sale that you know next to nothing about.

Regardless, it is a retail priced car with declared faults, which may end up costing at least half the value of the car again.

If you think that's a good way of spending your money, then more fool you. However, the vendor has now stated are not as serious as first stated, which is great. An old car with a clever and fluffy advert making it sound all well and cosy may fool some people but not the masses. I have no interest in buying that car at any price, I merely work in the industry and have experience in these cars. Its amazing how a friend posted a link to a car, well done friend.

[Pickled]

nct001 said:

I have no interest in buying that car at any price.

Stop banging on about it then!

Have an opinion by all means, but is there really any need for the rudeness about a car you haven't even looked at?

Some of us on here revel in the gamble of buying a car like this (I know I do) and if your handy with the spanners, and do a bit of research, then most things are fixable at home, and if you price it in with the cost of the car it can actually work in a prospective buyers favour. Sure if you want to take it to a main dealer and have it fixed then you can full well expect to receive a 4 figure bill, and unless it was a car that you really, really, want it makes no financial sense, but then if we all wanted low/zero cost cars this thread wouldn't be the place to look.

[Justayellowbadge]

I don't think NCT quite fits in here.

A little break may give him the chance to read up and get a feeling for the way the thread normally conducts itself.

[0a]

Laidback66 said:

And for what it is worth, I thought the advert was open honest, well written and without the over exuberant descriptions that plague too many.

A V12 BMW for c£2k...sounds good to me, even with the known corrective actions required

Quite. A known car with a good ad and some of the key issues resolved at £2k, £3k, £4k - remember some folks spend £30k+ on a new 4 pot diesel rep-mobile! Ugh!

With hindsight I should have purchased a W124 with one or two of the 'big ticket' items done (suspension, paint, gearbox) as when these cars get to there are always some known areas that need doing regardless.

[Agent Orange]

Laidback66 said:

Am I the only one here reading this and becoming saddened by the way this has gone?

Nope not just you. This thread is one of the few remaining sanctuaries of decentness left on PH.

Granted I'm doing no favours by mentioning it but probably best it's dropped and people move on as was mentioned a while back.

[0a]

Not quite a barge, but this caught my eye (in light of the recent modern merc thread purchases!) for £1,995 and on a claimed 89k miles. I don't even hate the wheels (thought i'd get some normal ones on)! Bad idea? http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

[Sterillium]

nct001 said:

Sterillium said:

What a strange thing to say, when you've wandered into a thread with the sole intention of deriding a car for sale that you know next to nothing about.

Regardless, it is a retail priced car with declared faults, which may end up costing at least half the value of the car again.

If you think that's a good way of spending your money, then more fool you. However, the vendor has now stated are not as serious as first stated, which is great. An old car with a clever and fluffy advert making it sound all well and cosy may fool some people but not the masses. I have no interest in buying that car at any price, I merely work in the industry and have experience in these cars. Its amazing how a friend posted a link to a car, well done friend.

None of this has anything whatsoever to do with your strange comment quoted above, and your bizarre and patronising dismissal of Zwolf's experience in this particular area, which is what my comment was levelled at.

I've no idea who posted the car or who the friend is, but I'd certainly value Zwolf's opinion on all things BMW and barge far, far more than I'd value yours. Either way, less fluff and more barges in here I think.

[Sterillium]

I'm going a bit off the wall here...

4 litre Rolls Royce engine in a 50 year old beauty.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vanden-Plas-Princess-4-L...

A velour palace on wheels.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LPG-Nissan-Gloria-AUTO-V...

[judas]

0a said:

Not quite a barge, but this caught my eye (in light of the recent modern merc thread purchases!) for £1,995 and on a claimed 89k miles. I don't even hate the wheels (thought i'd get some normal ones on)! Bad idea? http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

I'd budget for a new set of tyres - it's currently shod with Fullruns A car I bought had a set of these on the front - brand new too - they were so bad they had to be binned immediately. One of the tyres needed nearly half a kilo of balancing weights. The tyre fitter was convinced the wheel was buckled but the new tyre went on needing no balancing weight at all.

[0a]

judas said:

I'd budget for a new set of tyres - it's currently shod with Fullruns A car I bought had a set of these on the front - brand new too - they were so bad they had to be binned immediately. One of the tyres needed nearly half a kilo of balancing weights. The tyre fitter was convinced the wheel was buckled but the new tyre went on needing no balancing weight at all.

Not a good sign of a cash rich previous owner then... Half a kilo of weights? Where did they all go??!

[judas]

0a said:

Not a good sign of a cash rich previous owner then... Half a kilo of weights? Where did they all go??!

The tyres were fitted by the dealer. See, this is the sort of prep some types of salesman think is acceptable for a used car sale

[texasjohn]

Right, let's all move onwards and post some barges.

Regarding the 53 plate E320 posted above:

I believe that what you have to look out for on these is the Valeo radiator. Some later cars have a different radiator (I forget the OEM name) but the cooling system on cars with the Valeo item is connected in some way to, or via, the gearbox and the bork is that the coolant can get into the gearbox and completely shag it.

At some point they changed the cooling system. It was either very late in the pre-facelift (2005) or on the facelift cars (mostly 56 plate onwards).

Also on the pre-facelifts I think there is some fancy linked braking system to be aware of. I think that is less expensive to sort out when it borks, but that again was removed on later cars.

If you are looking at the E500 (I know you're not but anyway...) these have air suspension as standard which never lasts forever. I've seen 320s and 350s with it fitted but I think it was an option on the 6 cyl cars.

I would however buy a W211 (?) E Class, particularly the later facelift cars as they are supposed to be very good as the various issues I have commented on above were designed out. Or so I understand it, anyway.

Not sure if the CLK counts as a barge, but I think some if not all of the points above apply to that car too.