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For those that may be interested, I've done 1000 miles now since the e46 was Terracleaned. It's definitely running a lot smoother (even when cold) and feels a lot more willing to rev.
MPG: gone from 46.0 to....... 46.7 so no great improvement, but I'm happy with how much better the car feels.
MPG: gone from 46.0 to....... 46.7 so no great improvement, but I'm happy with how much better the car feels.
harry kular said:
For those that may be interested, I've done 1000 miles now since the e46 was Terracleaned. It's definitely running a lot smoother (even when cold) and feels a lot more willing to rev.
MPG: gone from 46.0 to....... 46.7 so no great improvement, but I'm happy with how much better the car feels.
Enough to convince you to get the other car done? MPG: gone from 46.0 to....... 46.7 so no great improvement, but I'm happy with how much better the car feels.
I think it has- it certainly didn't do any harm. I don't know if I'd see a difference like on the BMW though, as the E320 runs beautifully smoothly as it is. They've supposedly another product that goes even further through the engine's internals which I may try on the 124 in due course.
I've long been mulling over a V12 BMW barge itch and the E32 vs E38 question vexes me. I think the looks of the E32 have it but the E38 quality should be better still than the E39 I have as my daily driver.
There are very few special versions of either the E32 or E38, those that were made are now almost hidden from view - either secured in a garage or abandoned in a field.
There are very few special versions of either the E32 or E38, those that were made are now almost hidden from view - either secured in a garage or abandoned in a field.
SpeckledJim said:
I'm not sure E38 is higher quality than E39 per se, it's just 10% bigger, and a few more gadgets. There's a lot of commonality between them.
This. But the extra space etc and I think refinement (nvh) in the E38 certainly make it feel like a higher quality product. It's just a shame they didn't put the M52 3.0 litre in it, that would be good for those who prefer the economy of the 728iJobbo said:
E65Ross said:
Jobbo said:
The N62 4.4 in my 545is was almost bland in comparison; quiet, smooth but a little characterless.
Seriously?! It's a lovely engine imo! Have started looking at them again though, but a performance or louder exhaust is a must!
E65Ross said:
SpeckledJim said:
I'm not sure E38 is higher quality than E39 per se, it's just 10% bigger, and a few more gadgets. There's a lot of commonality between them.
This. But the extra space etc and I think refinement (nvh) in the E38 certainly make it feel like a higher quality product. It's just a shame they didn't put the M52 3.0 litre in it, that would be good for those who prefer the economy of the 728i(I think)
I'm not sure about the 645i but it's certainly quiet in the 745i. You can tell it's a V8 but all the noise is engine noise, not really noise from the exhaust, if that makes sense?
I'm not sure I'd want it more noisy in a 7 series, in a 6 I would, in a 5....possibly.
I wouldn't sa6 the engine lacks character, I this it's wonderful. Noise can be added easily enough but how the engine revs and drives is very nice I think.
I'm not sure I'd want it more noisy in a 7 series, in a 6 I would, in a 5....possibly.
I wouldn't sa6 the engine lacks character, I this it's wonderful. Noise can be added easily enough but how the engine revs and drives is very nice I think.
SpeckledJim said:
Quick Mercedes Beard-Test please...
Dec 2005 E280 CDi Estate - I'm think this will be the 7G auto, not the 5G auto?
Can anyone confirm please?
(there's a good (but irrelevant) reason why I can't ask the seller)
Yes, all the V6 diesels have 7 speed auto boxes. If it's an 05 it will almost certainly be pre-facelift which I think gives it SBC brakes. Dec 2005 E280 CDi Estate - I'm think this will be the 7G auto, not the 5G auto?
Can anyone confirm please?
(there's a good (but irrelevant) reason why I can't ask the seller)
Stegel said:
Yes, all the V6 diesels have 7 speed auto boxes. If it's an 05 it will almost certainly be pre-facelift which I think gives it SBC brakes.
Thankyou kindly. I'm considering changing to this from my '04 320 petrol/LPG with its gormless 5G - is the 7G a noticeable improvement in drive / economy?SpeckledJim said:
Quick Mercedes Beard-Test please...
Dec 2005 E280 CDi Estate - I'm think this will be the 7G auto, not the 5G auto?
Can anyone confirm please?
(there's a good (but irrelevant) reason why I can't ask the seller)
AFAIK all 280CDi were 7G. I owned a saloon of similar vintage to that from new.Dec 2005 E280 CDi Estate - I'm think this will be the 7G auto, not the 5G auto?
Can anyone confirm please?
(there's a good (but irrelevant) reason why I can't ask the seller)
Stegel said:
SpeckledJim said:
Quick Mercedes Beard-Test please...
Dec 2005 E280 CDi Estate - I'm think this will be the 7G auto, not the 5G auto?
Can anyone confirm please?
(there's a good (but irrelevant) reason why I can't ask the seller)
Yes, all the V6 diesels have 7 speed auto boxes. If it's an 05 it will almost certainly be pre-facelift which I think gives it SBC brakes. Dec 2005 E280 CDi Estate - I'm think this will be the 7G auto, not the 5G auto?
Can anyone confirm please?
(there's a good (but irrelevant) reason why I can't ask the seller)
SpeckledJim said:
Thankyou kindly. I'm considering changing to this from my '04 320 petrol/LPG with its gormless 5G - is the 7G a noticeable improvement in drive / economy?
I had a Dec 05 E220 from new for a year - if it is the same gearbox (probably, I imagine) it is pretty dumb. The 7 speed is a lovely box - I never feel it gets it wrong. No experience of a 280, but I have run a CLS 320 CDI (same engine, higher state of tune, plus 7G) from new to 99k over 8 years. I am a lead foot, and it spends a lot of time in traffic (average from new 29mph) but the average from new is 31.8mpg. My wife's E320 does a massive amount in town, and is worse. Both will comfortably get mid 40s on motorway, but town work kills economy.
Stegel said:
SpeckledJim said:
Quick Mercedes Beard-Test please...
Dec 2005 E280 CDi Estate - I'm think this will be the 7G auto, not the 5G auto?
Can anyone confirm please?
(there's a good (but irrelevant) reason why I can't ask the seller)
Yes, all the V6 diesels have 7 speed auto boxes. If it's an 05 it will almost certainly be pre-facelift which I think gives it SBC brakes. Dec 2005 E280 CDi Estate - I'm think this will be the 7G auto, not the 5G auto?
Can anyone confirm please?
(there's a good (but irrelevant) reason why I can't ask the seller)
Adopting your terminology, my 220 was post junior FL - was the feature you mention called SBC Crawl or similar - mine had SBC Hold, but on a test drive to sort another matter out at 2 weeks old, the MB Tech spent ages trying to activate that feature just because it bugged him he couldn't demonstrate it. Just one of the reasons I now drive 19 miles to the 5th closest MB dealer.
Stegel said:
Adopting your terminology, my 220 was post junior FL - was the feature you mention called SBC Crawl or similar - mine had SBC Hold, but on a test drive to sort another matter out at 2 weeks old, the MB Tech spent ages trying to activate that feature just because it bugged him he couldn't demonstrate it. Just one of the reasons I now drive 19 miles to the 5th closest MB dealer.
I don't know what the name was, I have only had my car about 3 months. SBC Crawl sounds like a good descriptive name for what it does.Are you saying the tech was at the 5th closest dealer and you were impressed he was trying to activate it or the opposite? I would cut him some slack for not knowing a relatively minor feature had been removed, presumably as it confused some customers.
E65Ross said:
You are correct. They only ever did LWB models of the V12 on the E65 (E66 I should say). Same with the current model only being LWB (F02). Do you mean what variants of the E66 760Li are relatively low on bork.... Well, being only 1 model you don't have much choice....
I was meaning what V12 barges in general. BigBen said:
I don't know what the name was, I have only had my car about 3 months. SBC Crawl sounds like a good descriptive name for what it does.
Are you saying the tech was at the 5th closest dealer and you were impressed he was trying to activate it or the opposite? I would cut him some slack for not knowing a relatively minor feature had been removed, presumably as it confused some customers.
The opposite - you're right, I probably should cut him some slack (not knowing a minor feature was removed) but in the space of 12 months with that car I managed to comprehensively fall out with the two closest dealers (both MB owned) and happened to have a job near the fifth closest dealer when it came time to buy the CLS; eight years and two cars worth of full MBSH I've never had a bad word to say about (franchised dealer) no 5, and can't be bothered giving 3 and 4 a chance!Are you saying the tech was at the 5th closest dealer and you were impressed he was trying to activate it or the opposite? I would cut him some slack for not knowing a relatively minor feature had been removed, presumably as it confused some customers.
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