RE: Evora S Sports Racer: Intro

RE: Evora S Sports Racer: Intro

Tuesday 29th April 2014

Evora S Sports Racer: Part V

Matt had never driven a Lotus before either - was he as lukewarm as Garlick on the experience?



So Paul isn't too keen on the Evora, and I can see exactly where he's coming from. It requires a little compromise where something like an F-Type Coupe (can we mention anything from Stuttgart again yet?) doesn't as much; it allows the driver to have their cake, eat their cake and get fitter in the process.

The Evora is flawed and consequently not as complete as some of its rivals, that has to be conceded. However, where its low points are tangibly much lower than a Cayman's (the Jag is still on the to-drive list), I'd argue its highs are more enjoyable still.

Evora built for, and on, roads like this
Evora built for, and on, roads like this
Let's start with the major drawbacks before it becomes an Evora eulogy. The Cayman sounds better, easily. A lot of cars change gear more sweetly. The Alpine infotainment thingy doesn't really have a place in a £65K car, even if it functions acceptably. Oh, and the name is terrible. Sports Racer is bad, SR makes it sound like a Nova and wasn't SSR a Chevrolet pick-up? The Sport 350 name could have been nicely resurrected for the supercharged car.

But other than that it was fabulous. Completely and utterly fabulous. I can live with the problems (don't worry, they won't be passed off as 'character') for the absolute joy the Lotus delivers when driving.

Like Garlick, the Evora was the first Lotus I had driven. Having read about the dynamic genius seemingly manifest in every Hethel product, I was rather excited. You know what comes next, don't you? It comfortably exceeded all lofty expectations I had for it.

When all the hydraulic power steering has gone, the Evora will be remembered as one of the greats; it's beyond reproach. It doesn't require any acclimatisation period because it responds so precisely to inputs. The weight is ideal and the feel fantastic; it's constantly relaying information back about the road surface and grip without ever becoming tiresome. It's perhaps the Evora's single greatest advantage over any new rival, Porsche or otherwise.

Quiet round these parts, especially at this hour
Quiet round these parts, especially at this hour
Reading the original Evora S review corroborates all that seemed apparent on the ride and handling side of things. Without any active components it just feels right in every scenario. Even non-car friends commented on how comfortable it felt. The Evora is made for that 'I just wanted to carry on driving forever' cliche. Even with slightly offset pedals.

Pictures don't do the looks justice as the Evora does have genuine mini-supercar presence. The Sports Racer addenda gives the shape a bit more aggression and the rarity must contribute too. People are happy to see it (that very seldom happens) and it does grab attention; so don't stall, as everyone will see. Just trust me on that one...

So yes, I'm fairly enamoured by the Lotus. And right now, having not driven a Cayman for a long time or an F-Type Coupe at all, I would buy one with my £65K. Honestly. Doing a bit of dreaming on the configurator puts the ideal Cayman GTS at £63K (sorry, I'm a sucker for black wheels, PCM effectively chose itself and it obviously needs PTV) compared to the £66K of the Sport Racered Evora. Interestingly 'my' F-Type V6 S came out at £66,295 with a couple of option prices TBC and going easy on the extras for fear of the price spiralling. When one wheel option is £2.5K and carbon brakes are £8,900, an F-Type quickly becomes very expensive!

However, this sports car saga isn't over just yet. The Cayman (and Boxster) GTS launch is in May and I'm attending; will the Evora still be top dog then?

Matt

For previous updates click here for the archive page.



LOTUS EVORA SPORTS RACER
Engine:
3,456cc V6 (supercharged in S)
Transmission: 6-speed manual/6-speed auto (Intelligent Precision Shift),
rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 280@6,400rpm (S 350@7,000)
Torque (lb ft): 258@4,600rpm (S 295@4,500)
0-62mph: 5.0 sec, IPS 5.2 sec (S 4.6 sec, IPS 4.7 sec)
Top speed: 163mph, IPS 159mph (S 178mph, IPS 167mph)
Weight: 1,383kg ('unladen', S 1,437kg)
MPG: 30.3 (NEDC combined, S 28.7)
CO2: 217g/km (S 229g/km)
Price: £57,900 (£65,900 as tested in S spec)

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Discussion

braddersm3

Original Poster:

202 posts

193 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Really like these but £65k is £20k to much surely!..shame but competition in the form of Boxster and Cayman is pretty tough and now the F Type coupe is out I can't see Lotus shifting many.

kambites

67,571 posts

221 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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braddersm3 said:
Really like these but £65k is £20k to much surely!
From the sales figures, this is clearly what the market thinks, but I've never quite understood why. Price is comparable to the Cayman and it's closer to the 911 in spec (which is ~20k more expensive).

Still "the customer is always right", as the saying goes, so it's hard to see the Evora as anything other than a failure, really.

bencollins

3,503 posts

205 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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1) Cant understand why someone would pick a Cayman over this, but seems they do!
2) So much more cool and a bulletproof motor to boot.
3) First poster expects a hand-built low volume aluminium chassised car should be £20k(!) cheaper than a massed produced very nice steel monocoque from a competitor. That probably answers (1).

braddersm3

Original Poster:

202 posts

193 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Didn't think the Lotus should be £20k less than its direct competitor,just £20k less than its current list price.When a well specked Cayman is @£50k irrespective of being hand built or not,it's going to be tricky for Lotus.

kambites

67,571 posts

221 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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braddersm3 said:
Didn't think the Lotus should be £20k less than its direct competitor,just £20k less than its current list price.When a well specked Cayman is @£50k irrespective of being hand built or not,it's going to be tricky for Lotus.
You can't buy a well specced Cayman S for 50k. A normal Cayman can presumably be had for 50k in a reasonable spec, but then you should be comparing that to the non-supercharged Evora, which is also cheaper.

Obviously I have no figures to back this up, but I doubt a significant proportion of Cayman Ss sell for under 60k.



The Evora is more expensive than a comparable Cayman, but only marginally and givent he seating configuration, one could argue that it's as much a 911 competitor as a Cayman one.

Edited by kambites on Friday 4th April 17:03

justin220

5,340 posts

204 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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A well specced Cayman isnt £50k though, lets be honest. Price up a Cayman with a matching spec, and it will be more expensive. Although I feel sadly that the Lotus has to be either significantly cheaper, or better than the Porsche to have a hope in stealing customers.

For me, a Lotus has a certain 'kudos' that a Cayman or standard 911 doesnt.


braddersm3

Original Poster:

202 posts

193 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Irrespective of specs and prices,one manufacturer can't make them quick enough,one is struggling.I would love to see Lotus do well with the Evora,but realistically what else can they do to get people in them?

Newro

703 posts

262 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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article said:
Price: £57,900 (£65,900 as tested in S spec)
Assuming you get around 10% off list price, I for once think that this is well priced.

kambites

67,571 posts

221 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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braddersm3 said:
Irrespective of specs and prices,one manufacturer can't make them quick enough,one is struggling.I would love to see Lotus do well with the Evora,but realistically what else can they do to get people in them?
They need to stop believing that their customers give a damn how a car drives, and start producing cuddlier plastics and thunkier doors. hehe

braddersm3

Original Poster:

202 posts

193 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Having been driving a Boxster today I was left feeling pretty unmoved by it,chuffed to get back in the Elise!

unpc

2,835 posts

213 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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I'd take one of these over a Cayman but at that price I'd be getting the F-Type V6S. I'm contempating doing just that.

justin220

5,340 posts

204 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Lotus need to strap the Elan body shell onto the Evora chassis IMO

The GMan

2,508 posts

255 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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I was so close to buying an Evora S instead of my Aston.

I loved the way it drove and looked, and still look at them in PH classified and think should I have?

Aston won it for me when I saw it in the flesh and heard it, drove it and kept looking back at it when I was walking out of the garage that I was buying it from.

Lotus was a great car though.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

265 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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"It's not actually that much lighter than a Cayman "


you will find it's not lighter at all and weighs more !!!!

kambites

67,571 posts

221 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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mrdemon said:
"It's not actually that much lighter than a Cayman "

you will find it's not lighter at all and weighs more !!!!
I think it's between the Cayman and 911 in terms of weight isn't it? Which would make sense from a rational point of view, but still seems wrong for a car with a Lotus badge on it somehow.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

265 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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bencollins said:
1) Cant understand why someone would pick a Cayman over this, but seems they do!
2) So much more cool and a bulletproof motor to boot.
3) First poster expects a hand-built low volume aluminium chassised car should be £20k(!) cheaper than a massed produced very nice steel monocoque from a competitor. That probably answers (1).
easy

build is still dire
support and dealers are still dire
the engines a heavy weight old lump
And it's slower

hence why we pick Caymans

kambites

67,571 posts

221 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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mrdemon said:
bencollins said:
1) Cant understand why someone would pick a Cayman over this, but seems they do!
2) So much more cool and a bulletproof motor to boot.
3) First poster expects a hand-built low volume aluminium chassised car should be £20k(!) cheaper than a massed produced very nice steel monocoque from a competitor. That probably answers (1).
easy

build is still dire
support and dealers are still dire
the engines a heavy weight old lump
And it's slower

hence why we pick Caymans
Whilst that is almost certainly all true, I suspect it's also not the primary reason, because 95%+ of new Cayman buyers have never driven an Evora or been into a Lotus dealer.

My nearest Lotus dealer is actually closer than my nearest Porsche one, and it's quite possibly a better dealer too (their primary franchise is Lexus, who have a reputation for picking their dealers carefully) but of the people I know who've recently bought Porsches, not one visited the Lotus dealer or indeed even knew it existed.

A few people will certainly buy the Porsche because it's the better car, but most will buy it because they don't even know the Lotus exists.

Edited by kambites on Friday 4th April 17:54

C43

666 posts

198 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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I have had an Evora NA for 1 year and still loving it. Did a 500 mile drive in it yesterday and at the end of the journey I was still looking for an excuse to find another detour so I could drive it on the twisty stuff a bit longer.

Great car.

C43

ps one point in the article is well made, I have yet to drive a Porsche that feels properly setup (ie damping and spring rates) for bumpy English roads, and it does not seem that the Aston or F type are any better.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

265 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Most prob have and just walked back out again or had issues finding one in the 1st place.

Lotus dealers are that bad, also most cars in stock have bits missing which they take off the car to give to customers with broken bits because Lotus takes 6 months to look at any claims.

the company sucks for support and that this price they cannot sell them vs what else is out there.

it's a 40k car and at that price it would be ok.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

265 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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C43 said:
I have yet to drive a Porsche that feels properly setup (ie damping and spring rates) for bumpy English roads,.
all most all do bar the GT cars.

Have no issue with either of mine at speed on B roads.