RE: Evora S Sports Racer: Intro
Discussion
Richard-G said:
but while you were experiencing dynamic perfection, efficiency and total reliability did you at any point scratch the plastic underneath the steering boss and think 'dissapointing'?
Err no.But I do look at the fit between the door cards and the dash and think it could be better. But generally I just drive it
By the way, the last PH blog update on this was 29th April
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...
Has the Evora gone back to Lotus?
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...
Has the Evora gone back to Lotus?
I just thought I'd add my comments here as they echo those in the original story and I couldn't agree more with that initial write up. I've driven two Cayman Ss and two Evora Ss reasonably recently. I completely agree with the realistic appraisal of the Evora's downsides: the gearchange isn't the best, the quality of the cabin isn't on a par with the Cayman, and the general feeling of quality isn't there. I'd go a stage further and point out that the tall transverse mounted V6 at the very back of the chassis is a big compromise compared with the Cayman's similar capacity but flat engine mounted right down low in the centre of the car. However, (and that's a very big "however"!) to drive the cars is to discover they're are chalk and cheese - the Cayman is like lift music and the Evora a live orchestra. The feedback from the Evora's steering is in a totally different league to the Cayman, the linearity of the controls is impressive in the Evora and they've clearly worked on that, whereas the Cayman deliberately has a variable ratio steering rack, something you might expect in a coach, not a sports car. The ride also is nice and supple in the Evora but jiggly and unsettled in the Cayman. For my £65k like most people here I'd own several cars, something like my present pair (3 series and 2-Eleven) plus a classic, a GT car or a bike; but if I had to buy one new car for £65k it would be the Evora over the Cayman anyday. That's because I like driving - I think if I was recommending a car for my Dad's £65k I'd suggest the Cayman. Horses for courses I guess, it's just a surprise for a car nut like me that the Porsche is not the driver's choice, in fact nowhere near it.
Edited by RobM77 on Friday 4th July 15:45
RobM77 said:
I just thought I'd add my comments here as they echo those in the original story, but I couldn't agree more with that initial write up. I've driven two Cayman Ss and two Evora Ss reasonably recently. I completely agree with the realistic appraisal of the Evora's downsides: the gearchange isn't the best, the quality of the cabin isn't on a par with the Cayman, and the general feeling of quality isn't there. I'd go a stage further and point out that the tall transverse mounted V6 at the very back of the chassis is a big compromise compared with the Cayman's similar capacity but flat engine mounted right down low in the centre of the car. However, (and that's a very big "however"!) to drive the cars is to discover they're are chalk and cheese - the Cayman is like lift music and the Evora a live orchestra. The feedback from the Evora's steering is in a totally different league to the Cayman, the linearity of the controls is impressive in the Evora and they've clearly worked on that, whereas the Cayman deliberately has a variable ratio steering rack, something you might expect in a coach, not a sports car. The ride also is nice and supple in the Evora but jiggly and unsettled in the Cayman. For my £65k like most people here I'd own several cars, something like my present pair (3 series and 2-Eleven) plus a classic, a GT car or a bike; but if I had to buy one new car for £65k it would be the Evora over the Cayman anyday. That's because I like driving - I think if I was recommending a car for my Dad's £65k I'd suggest the Cayman. Horses for courses I guess, it's just a surprise for a car nut like me that the Porsche is not the driver's choice, in fact nowhere near it.
That's very well put.I don't agree with you on th egear change unless you drove an early Evora
Some sales news from Lotus yesterday:
http://www.lotuscars.com/gb/news/corporate/lotus-d...
"LOTUS DELIVERS BEST JUNE RESULTS IN 4 YEARS AND BEST FIRST QUARTER SALES IN 3 YEARS"
Still small numbers in terms of volume of course.
"The improved performance is attributed to increased demand for all three vehicles in the Lotus range being the Lotus Evora, Lotus Exige and Lotus Elise, with industry-leading residual values ensuring that a Lotus purchase is an easy decision."
I don't think its an easy decision for most people unfortunately! But good news and I hope the growth continues.
http://www.lotuscars.com/gb/news/corporate/lotus-d...
"LOTUS DELIVERS BEST JUNE RESULTS IN 4 YEARS AND BEST FIRST QUARTER SALES IN 3 YEARS"
Still small numbers in terms of volume of course.
"The improved performance is attributed to increased demand for all three vehicles in the Lotus range being the Lotus Evora, Lotus Exige and Lotus Elise, with industry-leading residual values ensuring that a Lotus purchase is an easy decision."
I don't think its an easy decision for most people unfortunately! But good news and I hope the growth continues.
blueg33 said:
RobM77 said:
Thank you. If I remember rightly the manual Evora S that I drove was a 2011 model. The other Evora S that I drove had the paddle shift auto.
Mine is a 2010 car but had the cables replaced with 2012 spec ones - gear change is now much improved, smooth and precise.The early (59 plate IIRC) one's gearshift wasn't all that, a bit awkward at first, got used to it quickly but it never became a source of pleasure in the six days I had the car. Build quality wasn't the tightest where the door panels and dashboard met, but I found the interior architecture and materials a lot more pleasant than on contemporary species of Boxster/Cayman.
RobM77 said:
blueg33 said:
RobM77 said:
Thank you. If I remember rightly the manual Evora S that I drove was a 2011 model. The other Evora S that I drove had the paddle shift auto.
Mine is a 2010 car but had the cables replaced with 2012 spec ones - gear change is now much improved, smooth and precise.blueg33 said:
RobM77 said:
Maybe Lotus should hire someone from Honda? 
Every single Honda I've ever driven has had an utterly superb gearchange, whether FE/FWD (ITR, CTR), FE/RWD (S2000) or ME/RWD (NSX).
Mrs Blue had an Accord from the 1990's - it didn't meet the above description Every single Honda I've ever driven has had an utterly superb gearchange, whether FE/FWD (ITR, CTR), FE/RWD (S2000) or ME/RWD (NSX).
gavsdavs said:
AIUI the (manual) Evora uses the Toyota EA61 gearbox via a dual mass flywheel. I wouldn't wish for a DMF on a sports car - but I have pretty much the same engine and gearbox combination (via a Fidanza flywheel and a helix clutch) in my car and it's fine - light, smooth, positive....
I'm fairly sure the Evora has a solid flywheel with a sprung clutchThe Wookie said:
I'm fairly sure the Evora has a solid flywheel with a sprung clutch
Quite happy to be corrected - I'm seeing a mix of information on tinternet.Lighter flywheels appear to be available - as as DMFs.
In Toyota applications The EA61 is generally mated to DMF - mine rattles at lower revs and I've read that Evora owners are getting the same (http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f170/transmission-evora-s-102899/)
blueg33 said:
Just thouight I would add this
Evora N/A
Driven circa 260 miles in 1 day, cruise control set at 80mph on the auto route (except in road works), 20 miles at each end of back road hoonage
Average mpg 40.5 for the trip, not bad for a 3.5 lite sV6 car that does 0-60 in 5 secs
That's astonishing :-)Evora N/A
Driven circa 260 miles in 1 day, cruise control set at 80mph on the auto route (except in road works), 20 miles at each end of back road hoonage
Average mpg 40.5 for the trip, not bad for a 3.5 lite sV6 car that does 0-60 in 5 secs
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