Engine noise and early starts
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Hi all. Question for you, a neighbour who knew I had bikes before moving in is now complain about my 6:30 to 6:45 start up.. The bike has a standard road legal exhaust, and is parked on my front garden. It is too heavy to move without the engine on as the path is sloped and awkward, am I being unreasonable starting it at this time and riding off a minute or so later? If I don't idle it, it stalls unless revved a lot higher, so I feel a bit trapped. Taking the car is a nightmare. Any suggestions please. If I'm really being out of order id like to know. Cheers all.
Not unreaonable at all in my book - a legal vehicle, being used legally? If you were revving it and doing maintainence at 6:45 that would be unsociable, but simply starting and riding off... it may be irritating, but it's not like you're doing it for a laugh.
My neighbours have to put up with my 05:50 starts, I try and leave quietly - but it's still a noisy car, but unmodified and perfectly legal. I am very concious of it, especially on cold mornings!
My neighbours have to put up with my 05:50 starts, I try and leave quietly - but it's still a noisy car, but unmodified and perfectly legal. I am very concious of it, especially on cold mornings!
bestinshow said:
I'm with your neighbour on this one, especially if he has kids. I think starting it and then letting it idle for a while isn't helping.
Just because you have an early start doesn't mean he has to.
So what is your reasonable suggestion for resolution? The OP gives up his job? The OP buys a 1970s milk float?Just because you have an early start doesn't mean he has to.
Genuine question from a non-biker - do bikes normally need to idle when starting from cold, or is this bike unusual in some way? I used to wake up next door when I started the Porsche for an early blast, but I'd start it and go - not sit around outside.
I'd always try and keep good relations with next door, but it's about finding a compromise - could you park it anywhere else a little further away perhaps?
I'd always try and keep good relations with next door, but it's about finding a compromise - could you park it anywhere else a little further away perhaps?
Spangles said:
Start it and ride off. If it needs to idle for minutes before you can ride it then either ride round the problem or fix it.
Yep, I suspect the problem is the idling, not the starting.How long are you letting it idle for? Just long enough to put on helmet/gloves? Or ten minutes of fast idle?
Actus Reus said:
Genuine question from a non-biker - do bikes normally need to idle when starting from cold, or is this bike unusual in some way? I used to wake up next door when I started the Porsche for an early blast, but I'd start it and go - not sit around outside.
I have a couple of 90's bike on carbs and they are both a little moody if you try to ride them immediately after starting. However if I start them, then put on my helmet and gloves, then ride off they are fine. "Moody" means I wouldn't like to try to ride them at walking pace on the gravel drive while turning as a stall can make you fall off.The Kawasaki won't idle on the choke lower than 3000rpm. Apparently they all do that.
Neither of the bikes make more noise than the diesel Transit at the end of the street that wakes me up for 30 seconds every morning at 6ish. I'd complain to him but I have a sense of proportion. He could do with letting the glow plugs warm up a little though.
TooMany2cvs said:
Or ten minutes of fast idle?
Guy at work does this at shift change time on his R1, right outside the office window. It makes phone calls etc impossible. There may be nothing illegal in it, but this guy knows it's annoying - he's been asked not to do it, or to park behind the building to limit disturbance, but still insists on doing it right at the front of the building, where 40-odd people are working just inside. Guess who gets the s
tty jobs when they come in...?ETA Kwoat fale
Captain Muppet said:
bestinshow said:
I'm with your neighbour on this one, especially if he has kids. I think starting it and then letting it idle for a while isn't helping.
Just because you have an early start doesn't mean he has to.
So what is your reasonable suggestion for resolution? The OP gives up his job? The OP buys a 1970s milk float?Just because you have an early start doesn't mean he has to.
Along with the general view on the thread it's perfectly normal for people to be starting cars 6.30am (and earlier). This will happen on every housing estate across the UK and if your neighbour finds it issue then his only real solution is a more secluded property.
I'm frequently setting off between 6.00 and 6.30. Out of respect for the neighbours I'm as quiet as I can be for example putting my stuff on the passenger seat rather than opening and closing the car boot. However can't avoid starting the car.
I'm frequently setting off between 6.00 and 6.30. Out of respect for the neighbours I'm as quiet as I can be for example putting my stuff on the passenger seat rather than opening and closing the car boot. However can't avoid starting the car.
I think he is being unreasonable for complaining to be honest. You need to get to work for your start time and have every right to do so.
I leave the house about 5.45am every morning and would be pretty miffed if one of my neighbours complained about me doing so. My neighbours are extremely petty at the best of times so it would probably only encourage me to make more noise doing so!
I leave the house about 5.45am every morning and would be pretty miffed if one of my neighbours complained about me doing so. My neighbours are extremely petty at the best of times so it would probably only encourage me to make more noise doing so!
Is the neighbour saying it's starting up the bike, or leaving it running for a bit while it sorts itself out? The latter would piss me off tbh, not something I'd want to be woken up by every morning - is there something you can do to get the engine running then get it off down the road?
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