RE: Audi S3 revelation: PH Blog

RE: Audi S3 revelation: PH Blog

Thursday 10th April 2014

Audi S3 revelation: PH Blog

Harris helps put the new WRX STI in context after a fascinating few days in an Audi S3



The older I become, the more confusing I find Audi - especially fast Audis. I was lent an S3 the other week: white, small wheels and nasty darkened rear windows. I didn't sit in it for a few days, partly through general business, partly because I was still haunted by the spectre of the last white A3 shaped object to sit in the same place on the driveway - the dreadful RS3.

First promising sign found between the seats
First promising sign found between the seats
I still can't quite decide what's more wrong about the RS3: the way it stammers down a road, or the blind-faith fanbosyism of those unlucky enough to have their spines crushed by one on a daily basis.

Negative preconceptions were put to one side for a quick blast into town one Sunday morning in the new S3. The car had a manual gearbox and only the lightest smattering of options. The beauty of three-pedal cars is that much can be gleaned from their low speed behaviour - especially that all important relationship between clutch, throttle and shift.

You can just tell if something is inherently right at under 20mph, and within a few minutes it was clear that this new S3 had been developed by people who enjoy changing gear. And who find turbocharged engines that refuse to shed revs promptly after even the smallest throttle inputs plain bloody irritating.

Button test? Complete, business as usual
Button test? Complete, business as usual
The five-minute warm-up process gave a chance to fumble with a few buttons and see if the uber-quality doyen of the cabin quality group test was still at the top of its game (Copyright T. Queef). It would seem so. I especially like the thin line of switches on the dash and the red-faced dials. It feels small from inside - intimate and cosy. The seat has just about enough support, and I could get low and pull the weeny little steering wheel into my chest. I'm not sure about these infotainment screens that glide out from a hidden recess. I'm an old fart who just sees it failing a week after the warranty expires.

I had taken the precaution of both reading nothing about the new S3, and not studying any of the numbers before driving it. I had no idea how much power was claimed by Audi, so was a little shocked when from 2,500rpm in third gear it decided to launch itself down the road like a, well, very fast car indeed. And it kept pulling. And it made a decent noise. And the throttle response was plain brilliant for what must be a very turbocharged four-pot.

White goods, suddenly more interesting
White goods, suddenly more interesting
Then we encountered some bumps - things that fast Audis regularly seem to have bypassed during their development years. The S3 immediately felt long-limbed and supple, dealing with very challenging lumps and cambers in just the way the RS3 hadn't.

In fact within ten minutes of sitting in the new S3 I was thinking that just about every aspect of the way it drove seemed to have been formed as a response to a direct challenge to produce a car that did exactly what an RS3 didn't. Car companies like to talk in terms of driving DNA - linking strands of feel and response from controls and components that can be traced through entire model ranges. Audi's faster products often feel like they were made by different companies, not just different teams of people. I suppose Quattro Gmbh, birth place of the RS3, is technically a different company.

I then found myself smiling at the S3 package. Here I was travelling at speed in a small, discreet Audi; I think the first 'S' model I can remember without the hey-look-at-me chrome mirrors, and I was actually enjoying myself. It was supple, fast, grippy, didn't understeer; didn't have a brake pedal with zero sneeze-factor.

No setting to sort out lifeless steering, sadly
No setting to sort out lifeless steering, sadly
The only real downside I could detect was in the steering. There are two modes, comfort is just too light and dynamic adds some unwanted, artificial friction when it's under load in faster turns. I also thought the dynamic engine sound gave the impression of it being a slightly borked 1995 Impreza Turbo.

The return journey was even better. I arrived home beaming and happy, discovered it has 300hp - and then used the car for every single journey for the next six days. It averaged 25mpg going very fast, 30-plus on a lighter load. No-one seemed to notice the four exhaust tips, or the car itself. I can't think of anything subtler and faster. Had this existed when we filmed the M135i, the outcome would have been much, much closer.

I haven't driven the new Golf R yet - everyone says it's a belter. But for now, if I was about to buy one car to use all year, I think it would be an Audi S3. Never thought I'd say that.

Chris

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andrewparker

Original Poster:

8,014 posts

187 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Wow, that is a turn up for the books!

Debaser

5,774 posts

261 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Nice that it's better to drive than the old RS3, though to be fair it couldn't be much worse.

richs2891

897 posts

253 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Nice to see Audi have addressed the terrible ride of my previous S3. Might be having another look at one in June

em177

3,131 posts

164 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Surprised by this!

Should've been a tell me I'm wrong feature!

Clivey

5,110 posts

204 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Looks like they've been listening! thumbup

kambites

67,552 posts

221 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Certainly a surprising conclusion given their previous efforts. Great to hear that they've actually bothered to put some effort into setting the car up properly. smile

Leins

9,461 posts

148 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Chrome mirrors were an option on the original S3 IIRC

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Didn't see that one coming!

Less is more?

kultsch88

123 posts

166 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Give us the triple test between m135i, S3, and Golf R then!

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

134 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Already looking forward to seeing the exact opposite written about this car from EVO or this site down the road, once BMW or another competitor releases a facelift product with more HP. Same pattern as with the 8P, laud it then loathe it. hehe

EricE

1,945 posts

129 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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kultsch88 said:
Give us the triple test between m135i, S3, and Golf R then!
... and make the m135i the x-drive version please, it is hard to find qualified opinions about this. the idea of a reversed, rear-biased haldex sounds really intriguing.

jon-

16,505 posts

216 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Having tracked and roaded the TTRS and TTS, I found the TTS to surprisingly be the better car.

It even seemed to have dialed out some of the horrid understeer the TTRS driving is dominated by.

GTEYE

2,094 posts

210 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Good to see a bit of balance in some of the comments above. I think the S3 has to date not had the easiest of time on PH.

CH likes it, suddenly its everyone's favourite car..

Actus Reus

4,234 posts

155 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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The Golf R IS better, or at least as good, in every way, bar its interior.

NWMark

517 posts

216 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Shhh! Chris I was hoping for a bargain used one in a years time!

Just looking on the Audi configurator and do they really only do it in the following colours - unless you dip into their exclusive paint at silly cost.

White, Red, Black, Silver, Grey, Brown? (mixture of solid, pearl and metallic)

MikeG88

148 posts

133 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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I was looking at the S3 the other day actually. Figures seemed impressive. Goo to hear its alrite to drive! never really considered an audi. I couldnt buy the Golf. Because it is at the end of the day a golf.

Actus Reus

4,234 posts

155 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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There's a dark blue too. It is not very inspiring, especially given some of the outrageously bright colours you could have the last S3 in.

Lucas Ayde

3,557 posts

168 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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EricE said:
... and make the m135i the x-drive version please, it is hard to find qualified opinions about this. the idea of a reversed, rear-biased haldex sounds really intriguing.
AFAIK the M135i isn't available with x-drive in the UK and no plans to introduce it announced either.

For a 'triple test' best to stick with what's on sale and maybe give BMW an incentive to offer x-drive too if AWD competitors from Audi and VW are getting a competitive advantage from it ...

Would love to see a thorough shootout between standard and x-drive M135i though just to see what the pros and cons are.


LA167

897 posts

186 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Leins said:
Chrome mirrors were an option on the original S3 IIRC
Chrome mirrors are standard, body coloured mirrors are a no cost option.

Betty Cumberdale

163 posts

134 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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MikeG88 said:
I was looking at the S3 the other day actually. Figures seemed impressive. Goo to hear its alrite to drive! never really considered an audi. I couldnt buy the Golf. Because it is at the end of the day a golf.
And the Audi at the end of the day is an Audi. I don't see your logic.