Stupid things PETROL HEADS say
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Lefty said:
The s1 Elise with 118bhp is a lovely little thing. Does that make the more powerful variants bad cars because the owners "don't get it"?
There's a big difference between saying "I wouldn't buy it because it doesn't have enough power for my tastes" and "it needs more power". The former is perfectly sensible, the latter is an indication that the person doesn't understand the point of the car. The market needs powerful cars, but that's not the same as saying that the market needs (or even wants) all cars to be powerful. It's not really any different to someone saying that the Mclaren P1 is rubbish because it doesn't have seven seats, which I would also say is somewhat missing the point.
Edited by kambites on Thursday 17th April 11:42
A lot of things already mentioned in this thread annoy me, but then many of them don't because they're just part of being an "enthusiast"... I.e. the mention of "geeky" model numbers for BMW / Porsche etc... What's wrong with that? It's much easier to say "The E92 M3" than it is to say "The 2007 to 2013 BMW M3 Coupe"
...But there are a couple of little niggly annoyances that I have:
- track "work", town "work", etc.. It's just driving
- To be "in" a car, in reference to owning or acquiring one... I.e. "This time next year I hope to be in an M3"... You mean you hope to own one? Because anyone can be "in" one if they visit a dealership or know a friend or has one. Getting in the car means to enter it via the doors.
I also hate 'pet' names such as Scooby, Porker, Beemer, etc., too.
...But there are a couple of little niggly annoyances that I have:
- track "work", town "work", etc.. It's just driving
- To be "in" a car, in reference to owning or acquiring one... I.e. "This time next year I hope to be in an M3"... You mean you hope to own one? Because anyone can be "in" one if they visit a dealership or know a friend or has one. Getting in the car means to enter it via the doors.
I also hate 'pet' names such as Scooby, Porker, Beemer, etc., too.
t up quite quickly Lefty said:
P-Jay said:
"The GT86 is underpowered by at least 100BHP" - you just don't get it
In fairness, maybe they do get it. Assuming "they don't get it" because they have a different opinion to you is a bit arrogant.Plenty of reviewers, professional motoring journalists, thought it needed more power. Are they missing the point too?
The s1 Elise with 118bhp is a lovely little thing. Does that make the more powerful variants bad cars because the owners "don't get it"?
So they took a brave step, built a balanced car with 200bhp or so, which isn't a small amount by any means and designed enough grip into the car that you can do all the sideways stuff some people like and enjoy the sensation of it moving around underneath you.
The result was a fun car to drive, that didn't drink fuel, and could be fun at more sensible speeds, was cheaper than most sports cars etc etc - it was a win win win and a concept I personally thought was brilliant.
But some people can't see past the stats, they think it should have 300bhp, or 400bhp and of course if it did you'd need things like massive fat tyres, fancy diffs and 4wd to keep the balance and of course that costs a lot of money and makes it heavy - so you'd end up with another £40-60k Sports Car that does 180mph and can pull 4G in the corners before ever looking like it might lose grip, which is won't because you'd never dare turn off the ESP, unless you were one of those sad souls who thinks he's Jenson Hamilton because we once went to the motorshow and owns some German saloon with more power than it can use and crashes it.
"it" is a 'modestly' powered, affordable coupe with a chassis set-up to match, by giving it 50% more power it's no longer balanced, and that's not the point.
Mastodon2 said:
On the subject of fast Honda naming convention, the worst has to be when people start making cringe-worthy portmanteaus to describe a Honda with an engine swap, such as "Teglude", "Civteg" or "intorrd".
Agreed. Nothing wrong with saying "b18" Civic or "k20 Civic" no need for silly hybrid naming.Obviously someone who's not familiar with honda's id just say "civic with an integra engine"
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