RE: All-new Mazda MX-5 teased

[havoc]

Does sound promising.

Can I wait for the S-Special / R-Limited variant, please, with the diff and the uprated suspension...

[timbo999]

Hamsternator said:

Drive train??

Perhaps, although as it includes brake and suspension components, not sure that's any closer... chassis it is then...

[MG CHRIS]

timbo999 said:

Hamsternator said:

Drive train??

Perhaps, although as it includes brake and suspension components, not sure that's any closer... chassis it is then...

Nope ppf.

[timbo999]

MG CHRIS said:

Nope ppf.

Thanks for being so definitive about it - I think you'll find that PPF just refers to the cross braced structure that Dan refers to as a torque-tube style beam... so doesn't include the suspension etc etc...

[Debaser]

Excellent - still RWD!

[Superhoop]

timbo999 said:

MG CHRIS said:

Nope ppf.

Thanks for being so definitive about it - I think you'll find that PPF just refers to the cross braced structure that Dan refers to as a torque-tube style beam... so doesn't include the suspension etc etc...

This ^^ the PPF is just the braced link between the gearbox and rear differential.

[JamesHayward]

So far, so good. Hopefully it's a little more inspiring than the MK3 too, should be with less weight.

[beach bum]

MG CHRIS said:

ppf or power plant frame that what mazda calls it.

Sounds promising for the mk4 170 bhp and around 1100kg good figures to me.

My mk1 is 900kg and 115bhp which is plenty powerful for a small 2 seat roadster this should be good.

Mk1 is 950kg. Personally, I found the engine on my 1990 mk1 extremely boring and anodyne. I would never call it plenty powerful.

[jagfan2]

Superhoop said:

This ^^ the PPF is just the braced link between the gearbox and rear differential.

chassis is the suspension, brakes, steering etc , powertrain is engine and driveline, so that picture is a complete chassis and powertrain, simples

[Superhoop]

jagfan2 said:

chassis is the suspension, brakes, steering etc , powertrain is engine and driveline, so that picture is a complete chassis and powertrain, simples

I didn't say it was anything at all - I just it wasn't a PPF

[kambites]

I think "rolling chassis" is the usual term?

Most cars with a "separate chassis", the body provides a significant chunk of the overall rigidity. The MX5 just takes that to extremes.

[Fetchez la vache]

kambites said:

I think "rolling chassis" is the usual term?

Doesn't it need wheels & tyres to be rolling? More like a sliding chassis, shirly?

[kambites]

Fetchez la vache said:

kambites said:

I think "rolling chassis" is the usual term?

Doesn't it need wheels & tyres to be rolling? More like a sliding chassis, shirly?

Fair point.

[topless360]

beach bum said:

MG CHRIS said:

ppf or power plant frame that what mazda calls it.

Sounds promising for the mk4 170 bhp and around 1100kg good figures to me.

My mk1 is 900kg and 115bhp which is plenty powerful for a small 2 seat roadster this should be good.

Mk1 is 950kg. Personally, I found the engine on my 1990 mk1 extremely boring and anodyne. I would never call it plenty powerful.

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Aside from offering great reliability, the engine in the Mk1 feel pretty poor in terms of power, doesn't really sound great and even though the power is at the top end which is nice, I'd still say the engine let the car down somewhat. I'm liking the sound of the new NA engines from Mazda though, good to see them sticking to what they do best.

[GAjon]

A version with the 2.3 turbo MPS engine would be interesting.

[ash reynolds]

I'm sure I recall publicity stating they were aiming at 900kg for this?
Anyway, not bad as taster. Please don't f**k up the bodywork

[danp]

Shame it's not at mk1 levels and under 1000kg (which I believe they were said to be targetting, perhaps that was always unrealistic?), but a reduction of 100kg is excellent IMHO.

Current 1.8i soft top is quoted at 1150kg including 75kg driver. [80kg less than the "roadster coupé"]

That plus a revvy 175bhp NA engine sounds like a great prospect, and good to see an engine without a plastic cover over it ;-)

[dukebox9reg]

Read plenty around they are looking at packaging the 1.5 skyactive engine from the 3 with a massive 99bhp. So will be even slower than the original. They should tweak it to 115bhp.

[Triumph Man]

Looks like they are returning to a 4 stud hub - few grammes saved there!

[Gandahar]

Mazda has missed out here.

They need to do a 3 pot 1.8 litre engine which not only would save weight but add some character.

That folding hard top just adds weight too, just make people buy the soft top apart from a cooking version for the non sporty people.