RE: Volkswagen Golf R 400
Discussion
swimd said:
Doesn't look particularly concept tbh, rear seats, standard interior trim, thinly disguised production preview? So Paris or Geneva for the production model And as expected they will build it. This is the rumored "Golf R Evo". I am sure the price will be completely bonkers and well into Cayman territory.
That article also mentions a manual instead of the DSG.
And what’s more is this:
caranddriver said:
It’s going to be built, the confirmation of which we received directly from VW research and development chief Heinz-Jakob Neusser.
sourceThat article also mentions a manual instead of the DSG.
And what’s more is this:
caranddriver said:
We also learned that the engine hasn’t been changed much from the version rated at 290 horsepower in the U.S.-spec Golf R, having only received mild revisions in the interest of withstanding more boost. The basic engine architecture hasn’t been altered. “We haven’t reverted to cast iron and made it into an EA113 again. The EA888 can handle it,” another VW executive told us.
So I think every "reasonable" person is supposed to buy a regular Golf R instead and chip it for a nice extra 100 hp?Edited by EricE on Monday 21st April 15:45
kambites said:
Like this terrible understeery pig you mean?
Not withstanding the reports that Haldex 5 is reportedly much better than previous iterations, am I still correct in thinking that Hadex can transmit UP TO 50% of power? So in the Aventador, it can throw UP TO 50% of the torque to the front (or alternatively over 50% at the back) where the Golf can throw UP TO 50% of the torque to the back (or alternatively over 50% at the front).If so, not really comparing apples with apples?
Edited to add, I mean %age of torque without wheelspin!
Edited by ecs0set on Tuesday 22 April 07:19
Edited by ecs0set on Tuesday 22 April 07:19
ecs0set said:
Not withstanding the reports that Haldex 5 is reportedly much better than previous iterations, am I still correct in thinking that Hadex can transmit UP TO 50% of power? So in the Aventador, it can throw UP TO 50% of the torque to the front (or alternatively over 50% at the back) where the Golf can throw UP TO 50% of the torque to the back (or alternatively over 50% at the front).
If so, not really comparing apples with apples?
That is also my understanding. The Haldex system usually connects the engine to the axle close to it and uses a clutch to send some power to the axle thats further away from the engine.If so, not really comparing apples with apples?
A notable exception is the M135i x-Drive which has a FR layout but sends the power to the rear wheel and uses the clutch to send torque to the front wheels when needed.
That is what I would like to see in the Golf R, but it would probably require the engine to be mounted longitudinally which is going to happen in the Golf platform.
EricE said:
That is also my understanding. The Haldex system usually connects the engine to the axle close to it and uses a clutch to send some power to the axle thats further away from the engine.
A notable exception is the M135i x-Drive which has a FR layout but sends the power to the rear wheel and uses the clutch to send torque to the front wheels when needed.
??A notable exception is the M135i x-Drive which has a FR layout but sends the power to the rear wheel and uses the clutch to send torque to the front wheels when needed.
X-Drive in the M135 (or any other BMW) isn't Haldex, and in the M135x-drive is a permanent 40:60 F;R split (with additional F:R as needed IIRC)
aeropilot said:
X-Drive in the M135 (or any other BMW) isn't Haldex, and in the M135x-drive is a permanent 40:60 F;R split (with additional F:R as needed IIRC)
Looks like you are right, it isn’t Haldex. I couldn’t find a source about the permanent 40:60 split, but I recall reading it is 100% RWD above speeds of 140 km/h or so. Either way it is far superior to the Golf R’s AWD implementation.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff